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Steam vs. Deisel

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Posted by bluepuma on Monday, December 29, 2003 4:21 PM
I used to live in Sierra Vista, Arizona and the closest train to the Buena Vista High end of town was way down in the valley before the river partway between Tombstone and Sierra Vista. Never saw what train ran there toward Bisbee/Naco.

Have one Brill Trolley, no working steam, plan at least some electric, Japan railway or Bullet Train or Acela between LA and Vegas. Run them right over/thru the mountains on a second level.
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Posted by PistolPete on Monday, December 29, 2003 12:09 PM
9 deisel and 2 steam, the steam will only be for railfans
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, December 29, 2003 9:02 AM
i model in n-scale and steam rules on my layout with the new 4-6-2's and 2-8-0's and a 2-8-2 by kato the rest are model power and bachmann spectrums. i'll soon be adding bach 4-8-2's and model power 2-8-2's maybe all these number are confusing for some of those diesel type guys. i do have some gp7's two e-7 and a rs-1. and modeling in the 1940's WWII escpically.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, December 29, 2003 8:31 AM
I model mid 70's Amtrak mostly but have 2 0-6-0 switchers for excursions running around.

Other than that it's E8/9's F7's an SD9 and various diesel switchers.


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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, December 29, 2003 8:15 AM
Diesel all the way!!!.
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Posted by rf16a on Tuesday, December 23, 2003 10:39 PM
I run both steam and diesel. I also have one electric.
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Posted by cacole on Monday, December 22, 2003 8:29 AM
At the Cochise & Western Model Railroad Club's HO-scale layout in Sierra Vista, Arizona, members are free to run whatever they want. Personally, I prefer steam, but have a few diesel locomotives as well. One member has an Acela, but we don't have catenary anywhere on the club layout. Because Sierra Vista is just outside the main gate of Fort Huachuca, a large U.S. Army post, members are from all over the country and each has his or her favorite railroad that they model. One member was raised in Rock Island, Illinois, so the Rock Island is his favorite. I was raised in southern Illinois, so I prefer the Illinois Central, Missouri Pacific, or Chicago and Eastern Illinois, which were the roads in that area. Others prefer the Norfolk Southern, Santa Fe, or Burlington Northern. One member, who is still in the Army and is currently in Germany, has two German Intercity Express (ICE) trains. We also have N-scalers and G-scalers in the club.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, December 21, 2003 11:22 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by donburlage

Originally posted by cp1057

I'm one of those avante-garde, out-on-a-limb types that models the transition era (yuk-yuk) so I enjoy running both steam and diesel. Normally the steam locos are pulling passenger trains and the diesels handle freight. The rationale I use is that the diesels aren't yet equipped with steam generators to provide heat for the passenger cars. It works for me. The one diesel that is used for passenger operation is an Alco FPA-4 in green/gold Canadian National colours.

I just wish steam models were more affordable, otherwise I have found that my layout is gradually dieselizing.

Charles
Hillsburgh Ontario
[/qu[8D]ote][8D]Smoke gets in your eyes, but diesel fuel never washes out.[8)]

Don a/k/a The Steamer Man
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Posted by ClinchValleySD40 on Friday, December 19, 2003 8:13 AM
Strictly first and second generation diesel.
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Posted by douginut on Friday, December 19, 2003 12:43 AM
Favor Electric, have all.
If I'm not near the train I love...
...I love the train I'm near!!


Doug, in Utah
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Posted by jlg89123 on Thursday, December 18, 2003 9:09 PM
Transition era, late 50's and early 60's, some steam, 2nd generation deisels, a couple of UP Turbines (definitely not Steam or Deisel) and a pair of gas/electric doodlebugs. I like the wide variety of equipment I can run and the range of styles.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, December 18, 2003 9:03 PM
I'm stictly diesel, even numbers of GE and EMD units
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, December 18, 2003 2:32 PM
I model 70s to the 80s so we're all diesel, but I'm nearly 60 so I remember steam and every once in a while all the modern stuff disappears off the layout to be replaced by 40 foot boxcars with roof walks (running boards for the nit pickers!)and mostly first generation diesels. When get the extended staging done I'll have a track or two set aside for the earlier era so I can step further back in time when the notion strikes. For regular op sessions, etc the modern era is more likely to prevail!

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Posted by AltonFan on Thursday, December 18, 2003 10:43 AM
I'd like to have steam, diesel, and electric.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, December 17, 2003 8:51 PM
The Sangamon and Kaskaskia actually has all three using their central Illinois rail system. The majority owner/CEO of the Sangamon & Kakaskia, Capt. Throckmorton Q. Snackledrogg, acquired most of the right-of-way from the C. & E. I. (Kaskaskia), the Wabash (Sangamon), the I. C. , and the Illinois Terminal in a rigged card game in the early stages of railroading in central Illinois. It made him wealthy and powerful enough so that he kept collecting royalties and duties from all of the above mentioned railroads as they utilized the right-of-way of the Sangamon & Kaskaskia. The downside to all this is that there is not much standardization on the SicK RR, (the Sangamon & Kaskaskia brackets the I. C.) and were is not for certain government agencies, the area served by the SicK RR would probably be devoid of any railroad at all.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, December 17, 2003 6:53 PM
Originally posted by cp1057

I'm one of those avante-garde, out-on-a-limb types that models the transition era (yuk-yuk) so I enjoy running both steam and diesel. Normally the steam locos are pulling passenger trains and the diesels handle freight. The rationale I use is that the diesels aren't yet equipped with steam generators to provide heat for the passenger cars. It works for me. The one diesel that is used for passenger operation is an Alco FPA-4 in green/gold Canadian National colours.

I just wish steam models were more affordable, otherwise I have found that my layout is gradually dieselizing.

Charles
Hillsburgh Ontario
[/qu[8D]ote][8D]Smoke gets in your eyes, but diesel fuel never washes out.[8)]

Don a/k/a The Steamer Man
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, December 15, 2003 4:40 PM
Deisel only no steam!! with the only exception being a UP Big Boy or a SP GS4 Daylight in N Scale scrap the rest

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, December 15, 2003 2:39 PM
Nothing but steam is used by Dalreada National Railways and always will be.
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Posted by AggroJones on Monday, December 15, 2003 2:33 PM
Now I model first generation diesel and steam. Steam is still dominant though.

I still have a fleet of UP modern diesels encased in boxes sittting on my shelf.
They are from my days before I discovered the glory of steam power.

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Posted by ddechamp71 on Monday, December 15, 2003 1:59 PM
For the time, only diesels, as my interrest is towards modern era. But I consider having soon a steam engine (or more) to power corporate / railfans passenger trains. Waiting for a soon coming SP GS3 or GS4.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, December 15, 2003 1:54 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Fergus

Hey Big Boy

Is that Diesel you got to help your Big Boy make the Grade!!!
No chance!!!!![;)][:D]
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Posted by vsmith on Monday, December 15, 2003 9:50 AM
I'm building an industrail/mining layout so all my locos are small and all my locos are a mixed bunch. Steam consists of 0-4-0 Porters, 0-4-0 Baldwins, two 2-4-0's and a dunkirk type shay. The rest are diesel or gas/mechanicals like Macks, Plymouths, and home made Critters.

   Have fun with your trains

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, December 15, 2003 9:43 AM
Diesel. Steam was before my time. I do plan on adding some electric as well.

Tom
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Posted by FThunder11 on Monday, December 15, 2003 9:42 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by michaelstevens

Wow # 11 !
Are you using a "hot" catenary ?
If so, aren't operations (e.g. re-railments) & maintenance (e.g. track cleaning) incredibly complicated ?

I dont use catenary for two reasons. one, i dont have the money to do it, and two i dont have the money to do it[:(] But once i graduate from high school and college than i will get the money and do it.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, December 15, 2003 9:27 AM
Hey Big Boy

Is that Diesel you got to help your Big Boy make the Grade!!!

Diesel need not apply on the MESS, Where the Allegheny's meet the Ocean[:D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, December 15, 2003 5:29 AM
I just came in at the end off the steam era one of my earliest memories is of an old NSW railways locos around Griffith NSW AU. So I have both
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, December 15, 2003 2:24 AM
I have four steam locomotives, and well over 100 diesels. Most of which are D&RGW, with 1 KCS SD40-2, 1 NS C44-9, and a couple of SD40-2s in UP paint. I also have several UTAH RAILWAY units.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, December 15, 2003 1:42 AM
Totally fascinated with balloon stack woodburners and anything geared and am currently lusting after a Mantua 2-6-6-2 logging tank.

I bought a 2nd hand diesel but just to try out new track and test my painting skills. It was painted for CN but I found out they never had sharknoses so it's now blue. I have friends that keep and run diesels on my layout but I am very tolerant when it costs me nothing.

"That's a lovely new locomotive, why don't you take it out of the box". "Oh you have...it's a diesel". "Never mind".
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, December 14, 2003 9:11 PM
I've only seen steam for Historical Society trips, even those are over now with insurance regulations and bs. It just never has done anything for me, maybe if I saw one at full speed, but give me a growling and smoking diesel any day.

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