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Tender Capacities for Medium Sized Vanderbilt Tenders

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Posted by Fergmiester on Sunday, May 6, 2007 7:21 AM

Musquodoboit 501  and 502 were clear coated last night and both were christened in a lazy old swell of the North Atlantic 300 miles from the nearest land! Yes you heard me right! Both slipped from my grasp as I was moving them across the carpenters work bench. Thankfully the debris was easily picked off and the second coat covered all blemishes.  (I blew all the crap from the area using a high pressure hose before I began)

One has been assembled and the second one will be assembled tonight after the speaker and decoder goes in.

A profitable trip!

Thanks Tom!

Pics will be posted once I'm home.

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Posted by twhite on Saturday, May 5, 2007 11:37 AM

Fergie--

Actially, the coal capacity wasn't stated on the end of the tender (I looked that up in my Rio Grande book), just the water capacity.  Coal capacity could vary, especially if a railroad like the Rio Grande used side-boards on the coal bunker to increase the load.  So you're okay on just listing the water capacity on the tank, which was always fixed.  Usually, on a Vandy, the only time fuel capacity was stated was if the tender was oil-fuel instead of coal. 

So you can get that lil' ol' thing all decalled and painted and not worry. 

And--hey, send us some photos, okay?  That insignia of yours is going to look SPECTACULAR on the sides of the coal bunker!!   

Tom Big Smile [:D] 

 

 

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Posted by Fergmiester on Saturday, May 5, 2007 9:17 AM

Thanks Tom

Unfortunately I looked through my collection of decals and I don't have any 20 Ton sets and I'm not in a position to get to the LHS and I want to clear coat tonight so I may give it a pass or apply the capacities at a later date. Were capacities a madatory requirement or was this something of interest to the engineers?

Fergie

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Posted by twhite on Friday, May 4, 2007 6:43 PM

Fergie--

I checked my Rio Grande F-81 2-10-2, which has the 'original' 8-wheel Vandy coal-tender.  It's a medium Vandy (looks a little short, actually, if you see it behind that massive loco,LOL!), and it's rated at 20 tons of coal (sloped coal bin) and 10,000 gallons of water.   I think that's what the GN Vandys were also rated at, so that should be a pretty good average for you--especially since you're thinking of the Spectrum Vandy, which is about the same size as my F-81. 

Hope this helps. 

Tom

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Posted by Fergmiester on Friday, May 4, 2007 3:53 PM

Thought of that but knew that the spaces for coal and water vary as the tank dimensions are not always evident due to void spaces, piping etc. Most coal bins are also angled. I would have normally had the info at my finger tips but when your 300 miles from the nearest land its atad difficult 

Thanks for the info

Fergie 

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Posted by dti406 on Friday, May 4, 2007 10:43 AM

Find an old physics book and measure your tank and coal space.  Using the conversion tables you should be able to find the space a gallon of water would take up and then round to the closest 1000 gallons.  The same can be done with the volume of the coal space and find the specific gravity of a cu. ft. of coal and round to the nearest ton. 

 

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Posted by ragnar on Friday, May 4, 2007 10:21 AM
Found reference to a 8 wheel medium length GN. Vandy tender that capacities were 20 tons of coal and 10'000gals of water. good round numbers to start with ,you could increase/decrease the numbers a bit to suit your taste. 
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Tender Capacities for Medium Sized Vanderbilt Tenders
Posted by Fergmiester on Friday, May 4, 2007 9:00 AM

Anyone know the Capacities (water & coal) for Medium Sized Vanderbilt Tender? I don't need exact Capacity just a good rounded number is fine. I am in the process of finishing a Kit bashed tender, which was a former Bachmann Southern Pacific Oil tender retrofitted for Coal.

Thanks in advanced

Fergie

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