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HO Athern/Genesis Challenger

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Posted by cacole on Tuesday, January 6, 2004 3:21 PM
Their announced price for a plastic model is more than I paid for the cast metal Lionel HO Challenger.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 5, 2004 9:43 PM
QUOTE: My Mikado will not pull five box cars up a 2% grade. Just spins it's wheels. Dave


That was the first frustrating part. The second was that the nylon drive mechanism cracked. The engine whines but the wheels do not move and thus the locomotive doesn't go anywhere. My guess is that the total running time of the locomotive was about 45 minutes. Athearn will replace the broken mechanism, but I've got to do the labor myself.

Like I said earlier, their Challenger will have to be a better product or it will be their last steam locomotive.
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Posted by dave9999 on Monday, January 5, 2004 9:37 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by JimdeBree

as far as Athearn is concerned, they will have to do a lot better than their previous steam locomotives which had no pulling power and a very fragile mechanism.


My Mikado will not pull five box cars up a 2% grade. Just spins it's wheels. Dave
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 5, 2004 8:32 PM
Let's hope if the Athern Challenger is succesful that Lionel will lower thier price.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 5, 2004 7:15 PM
Having seen the Lionel Challenger in action, I was less than impressed. It can't hold a candle tot he Trix Big Boy. For the kind of dollars they want, I am hard pressed to buy a Lionel loco. as far as Athearn is concerned, they will have to do a lot better than their previous steam locomotives which had no pulling power and a very fragile mechanism.
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Posted by nfmisso on Monday, January 5, 2004 2:09 PM
Trainworld http://www.trainworld1.com/newproductannouncements.htm
has them listed for $389/439 (DC/DCC). The Lionel one is a bit more.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 5, 2004 1:51 PM
That would be $769.23 Canadian,
before shipping and handling,
before Custom Tarriffs,
before taxes and
BEFORE DIVORCE COSTS!!!!!

Stop the madness!!!!!!!
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Posted by lupo on Monday, January 5, 2004 12:58 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by AggroJones

I wonder if this Union Pacific Logo thing is going to effect the price on them when they come out.


there is hardly any UP LOGO on a challenger, just plain text and a very tiny shield on the smokebox door, could we get a discount Uncle Pete?


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Posted by AggroJones on Monday, January 5, 2004 12:03 AM
I wonder if this Union Pacific Logo thing is going to effect the price on them when they come out.

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Posted by AggroJones on Saturday, December 6, 2003 9:12 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by camodude51

500-600 dollars, thats getting into the price range of brass locomotives. I remember the days (about 7-8 years ago) when $200-250 for a Rivarossi steamer seemed like a lot. It would have to be one impressive locomotive for me to spend over $500 on it.



Thats what I said.

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, December 6, 2003 9:07 PM
Well, if it looks as good as the Lionel Challenger, it will be one impressive loco. I saw the Lionel today, and it looks as good as any brass I've seen.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, December 6, 2003 9:00 PM
500-600 dollars, thats getting into the price range of brass locomotives. I remember the days (about 7-8 years ago) when $200-250 for a Rivarossi steamer seemed like a lot. It would have to be one impressive locomotive for me to spend over $500 on it.

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, December 6, 2003 10:42 AM
whoa!
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, December 6, 2003 9:09 AM
DC $529.98
DCC $599.98
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, December 6, 2003 8:48 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by douginut

the price seems a little breathtaking too.


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What's the price?
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Posted by dave9999 on Saturday, December 6, 2003 6:39 AM
I hope they put some weight in this one. I have the 2-8-2 which is a great
running loco but is too light. Traction is an issue. Probably just the size of
the Challenger will give it enough weight ! Dave
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, December 6, 2003 12:10 AM
I saw the price, man I fell off my chair.
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Posted by douginut on Friday, December 5, 2003 10:26 PM
the price seems a little breathtaking too.


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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, December 5, 2003 7:50 PM
According to www.athearn.com (NEW) spring of 04
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HO Athern/Genesis Challenger
Posted by Anonymous on Friday, December 5, 2003 6:22 PM
Does anyone know the release date for the HO Athern/Genesis Challenger? It looks like an awesome locomotive...........

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