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Posted by CSXFan on Saturday, December 30, 2006 9:47 PM
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All I can say is here In Michigan I would kill to have some snow. I wanted to go chase Pere Marqutte 1225 in the snow, but I never got the chance becuase everytime it snowed, It snowed on monday, and Melted by Friday. PM 1225 ran on Saturdays and Sundays..... I want some freakin' snow, I've got the Snow Blower all ready to go and I havn't needed it yet. I think when Michigan does get hit, we're gonna get it bad.

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Posted by SteamFreak on Saturday, December 30, 2006 9:26 PM

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SteamFreak

Sowfalls in Joisey?  Did Al Qaida blow up the local slaughterhouse?  Gives a whole new meaning to, "Cold ham sandwich."

Chuck (LOL)Laugh [(-D]

It's ash from the local incinerators.

Actually, Joisey has lots of farms & countryside outside of the New Yawk Metro area, but all visitors know is Newark Airport and the Turnpike. Historically we've had lots of snow. When I was a kid in the early 60's having 2 feet on the ground was common. That seems to have changed a bit, but last year was fairly heavy. I had Swiss coworkers complaining about the New Jersey winters!

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Posted by csmith9474 on Saturday, December 30, 2006 7:24 PM

It is good to see that there is plenty of snow falling in the mountains. That is where our water supply is. If we have a "dry" winter, then it is time to worry about the summer.

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Posted by Teditor on Saturday, December 30, 2006 7:20 PM

What's Snow?

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Posted by trainfan1221 on Saturday, December 30, 2006 7:09 PM
The weather never seems to cooperate when you need it to.  Hopefully there will be less problems with brush fires and the like for everywhere this year.
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Posted by Midnight Railroader on Saturday, December 30, 2006 6:56 PM
We're gonna need the moisture come "brush fire season!"
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Posted by trainfan1221 on Saturday, December 30, 2006 6:50 PM
Here in the northeast we are getting very freakishly warm weather.  Only snow I saw was at my folks' house in the mountains on Christmas. And it didn't last long.  As for our Colorado friends I hope you are making out alright with what nature has dealt you.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, December 30, 2006 6:43 PM

I could give a bunch of reasons why many locales have not seen snow. However, this is a MRR forum! Hehe.

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Posted by NS2591 on Saturday, December 30, 2006 6:21 PM

All I can say is here In Michigan I would kill to have some snow. I wanted to go chase Pere Marqutte 1225 in the snow, but I never got the chance becuase everytime it snowed, It snowed on monday, and Melted by Friday. PM 1225 ran on Saturdays and Sundays..... I want some freakin' snow, I've got the Snow Blower all ready to go and I havn't needed it yet. I think when Michigan does get hit, we're gonna get it bad.

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Posted by csmith9474 on Saturday, December 30, 2006 6:20 PM
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I have been to Denver 30 times at  least so I know all about.  Also been down your way a bunch of times too.  And here are the facts; you live in the mountains!  If you are 5000+ up that is high.  If Atlanta got 2 feet of snow and shut down, well ok.  But COLORADO?  If you live there you have snow blower ready to go.  If you got a big property you have a plow too.  And a large truck with 4x4 loaded with salt bags.  If you don't then you should join the snowbirds heading south on I-25 a month ago.  Hello Yuma here we are!

 

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 CurtMc wrote:

How can you say that Denver, the MILE HIGH CITY, is not in the mountains???  It is higher up than the eastern half of the country?!  Yes there are BIGGER mountains to the west, but you are still up there.

 And we are all disappointed that the place we tell people they REALLY know how to handle snow I guess can't like we thought.  Maybe we need to start referring to Denver as the Atlanta of the west and that real snow towns are up in CanadaEvil [}:)]Approve [^]

 

 Midnight Railroader wrote:
I don't know about other posters, but I live in Denver, which is NOT in the mountains. And any city that gets 24-48 hours of continuous snow is going to have problems.

Where exactly do you live? And no, Denver is definately not in the mountains. We only live out here, so why should we know what we are talking about?

Ah, you visited here a few times. Well heck, you are an old pro then. Go troll somewhere else!

I guess everyone can afford a 4x4 vehicle, plows, and snow throwers that will handle two feet of snow in your world. Must be nice. I guess the rest of us are stuck in reality here.

It is also good to learn that anything above 5000' asl is "in the mountains". In all the geography I have studied, we were never taught that.

Edit: Try going and telling the folks in Calhan that they are "in the mountains" (6558').

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Posted by Midnight Railroader on Saturday, December 30, 2006 6:16 PM
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I have been to Denver 30 times at  least so I know all about.  Also been down your way a bunch of times too.  And here are the facts; you live in the mountains!  If you are 5000+ up that is high.  If Atlanta got 2 feet of snow and shut down, well ok.  But COLORADO?  If you live there you have snow blower ready to go.  If you got a big property you have a plow too.  And a large truck with 4x4 loaded with salt bags.  If you don't then you should join the snowbirds heading south on I-25 a month ago.  Hello Yuma here we are!

 

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 CurtMc wrote:

How can you say that Denver, the MILE HIGH CITY, is not in the mountains???  It is higher up than the eastern half of the country?!  Yes there are BIGGER mountains to the west, but you are still up there.

 And we are all disappointed that the place we tell people they REALLY know how to handle snow I guess can't like we thought.  Maybe we need to start referring to Denver as the Atlanta of the west and that real snow towns are up in CanadaEvil [}:)]Approve [^]

 

 Midnight Railroader wrote:
I don't know about other posters, but I live in Denver, which is NOT in the mountains. And any city that gets 24-48 hours of continuous snow is going to have problems.

Where exactly do you live? And no, Denver is definately not in the mountains. We only live out here, so why should we know what we are talking about?

Okay, I give up. You are the master of topography.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, December 30, 2006 6:16 PM

I know the view to the west is awesome except for the smog days.

But you are still up there.  It is not like Hawaii where you are at sea level and look up to 14,000 foot mountains with snow on top of them.

 Midnight Railroader wrote:

Curt, take a look at a topographic map of Colorado some time. Denver and its surrounding metro area sits on a plain. The Rocky Mountains start west of town, and, yes, they get a good deal of snow. In fact, there's frequently snow on the mountain peaks when it's 97 degrees in Denver in July.

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, December 30, 2006 6:14 PM

I have been to Denver 30 times at  least so I know all about.  Also been down your way a bunch of times too.  And here are the facts; you live in the mountains!  If you are 5000+ up that is high.  If Atlanta got 2 feet of snow and shut down, well ok.  But COLORADO?  If you live there you have snow blower ready to go.  If you got a big property you have a plow too.  And a large truck with 4x4 loaded with salt bags.  If you don't then you should join the snowbirds heading south on I-25 a month ago.  Hello Yuma here we are!

 

 csmith9474 wrote:
 CurtMc wrote:

How can you say that Denver, the MILE HIGH CITY, is not in the mountains???  It is higher up than the eastern half of the country?!  Yes there are BIGGER mountains to the west, but you are still up there.

 And we are all disappointed that the place we tell people they REALLY know how to handle snow I guess can't like we thought.  Maybe we need to start referring to Denver as the Atlanta of the west and that real snow towns are up in CanadaEvil [}:)]Approve [^]

 

 Midnight Railroader wrote:
I don't know about other posters, but I live in Denver, which is NOT in the mountains. And any city that gets 24-48 hours of continuous snow is going to have problems.

Where exactly do you live? And no, Denver is definately not in the mountains. We only live out here, so why should we know what we are talking about?

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Posted by Midnight Railroader on Saturday, December 30, 2006 4:12 PM

Curt, take a look at a topographic map of Colorado some time. Denver and its surrounding metro area sits on a plain. The Rocky Mountains start west of town, and, yes, they get a good deal of snow. In fact, there's frequently snow on the mountain peaks when it's 97 degrees in Denver in July.

 

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Posted by csmith9474 on Saturday, December 30, 2006 3:53 PM
 CurtMc wrote:

How can you say that Denver, the MILE HIGH CITY, is not in the mountains???  It is higher up than the eastern half of the country?!  Yes there are BIGGER mountains to the west, but you are still up there.

 And we are all disappointed that the place we tell people they REALLY know how to handle snow I guess can't like we thought.  Maybe we need to start referring to Denver as the Atlanta of the west and that real snow towns are up in CanadaEvil [}:)]Approve [^]

 

 Midnight Railroader wrote:
I don't know about other posters, but I live in Denver, which is NOT in the mountains. And any city that gets 24-48 hours of continuous snow is going to have problems.

Where exactly do you live? And no, Denver is definately not in the mountains. We only live out here, so why should we know what we are talking about?

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Posted by csmith9474 on Saturday, December 30, 2006 3:50 PM

 Sherwyn Dirks wrote:
What is that at that drop-off anyway. Looks like a railroad track. You all Colorado people make me jealous. I don't think I would be tired of snow just yet. I live in Misery where we got a record of about 6 inches last year which all melted the next day. We also only got to skating a couple of times in which someone just about fell in every time. The one time there was a spot that was knee deep water. Whistling [:-^]

Sorry I didn't clarify on that. It is the cog railway that runs from Manitou Springs to the top of Pike's Peak (14,110'). I personally prefer to drive up, but I will ride the cog one of these days just to say I did.

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, December 30, 2006 3:41 PM
What is that at that drop-off anyway. Looks like a railroad track. You all Colorado people make me jealous. I don't think I would be tired of snow just yet. I live in Misery where we got a record of about 6 inches last year which all melted the next day. We also only got to skating a couple of times in which someone just about fell in every time. The one time there was a spot that was knee deep water. Whistling [:-^]
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, December 30, 2006 3:03 PM

How can you say that Denver, the MILE HIGH CITY, is not in the mountains???  It is higher up than the eastern half of the country?!  Yes there are BIGGER mountains to the west, but you are still up there.

 And we are all disappointed that the place we tell people they REALLY know how to handle snow I guess can't like we thought.  Maybe we need to start referring to Denver as the Atlanta of the west and that real snow towns are up in CanadaEvil [}:)]Approve [^]

 

 Midnight Railroader wrote:
I don't know about other posters, but I live in Denver, which is NOT in the mountains. And any city that gets 24-48 hours of continuous snow is going to have problems.

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, December 30, 2006 1:38 PM
 csmith9474 wrote:
 uspscsx wrote:

 Midnight Railroader wrote:
I don't know about other posters, but I live in Denver, which is NOT in the mountains. And any city that gets 24-48 hours of continuous snow is going to have problems.

If my sources are correct, Denver's elevation is around 5,280 feet, or one mile. That's the equivalent of the highest point in this mountain range. Heh, maybe not mountains to you!

MattBig Smile [:D] 

I am about 7000', and Pike's Peak tops out at 14,110'.  The mountains are just a little bit higher out here.Wink [;)] Here is a good pic from up there...

That's one massive drop. Makes me want to move out there...hehe.

 

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Posted by tomikawaTT on Saturday, December 30, 2006 12:02 PM

Just a couple of points Evil [}:)].

uspscsx

Here in the West, the plains are higher than the mountains are in the East.  Denver is at the western edge of a great big flat (but slightly sloped) area, and at the foot of the Front Range.

SteamFreak

Sowfalls in Joisey?  Did Al Qaida blow up the local slaughterhouse?  Gives a whole new meaning to, "Cold ham sandwich."

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Posted by SteamFreak on Saturday, December 30, 2006 6:51 AM
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the trains ARE running! http://www.railpictures.net/  has som incredible photos of BNSF trains running through the drifts

This first photo is from 2003, but it looks like it could be a scene from the "The Shining."

And this one is in Denver on 12/22. Could be weather related, but there's no reason given.

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Posted by SteamFreak on Saturday, December 30, 2006 6:41 AM
 csmith9474 wrote:

I don't have any from today, but here are some pics of last week's little "snow event":

Smitty, you're killing me with all of that gorgeous scenery just outside your door. Tongue [:P] We had record breaking sowfalls in the New Jersey last year, and this year nada. People here think I'm nuts because I actually like driving in it. 

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Posted by csmith9474 on Saturday, December 30, 2006 12:31 AM
 uspscsx wrote:

 Midnight Railroader wrote:
I don't know about other posters, but I live in Denver, which is NOT in the mountains. And any city that gets 24-48 hours of continuous snow is going to have problems.

If my sources are correct, Denver's elevation is around 5,280 feet, or one mile. That's the equivalent of the highest point in this mountain range. Heh, maybe not mountains to you!

MattBig Smile [:D] 

I am about 7000', and Pike's Peak tops out at 14,110'.  The mountains are just a little bit higher out here.Wink [;)] Here is a good pic from up there...

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, December 29, 2006 11:49 PM

 Midnight Railroader wrote:
I don't know about other posters, but I live in Denver, which is NOT in the mountains. And any city that gets 24-48 hours of continuous snow is going to have problems.

If my sources are correct, Denver's elevation is around 5,280 feet, or one mile. That's the equivalent of the highest point in this mountain range. Heh, maybe not mountains to you!

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, December 29, 2006 11:45 PM

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Needless to say, I will NEVER use DHL again.

DHL is the worst choice for shipping. No wonder! Airborne Express, their predecesor, was worse.

My front door has no porch roof, sits atop a hill, without even a walkway leading to it, and faces a state highway. Thus, we use our back door as the primary door. I have requested all shipping companies and USPS to deliver parcels to the back door. All have complied...except for DHL. For some reason, my calls have not sunk in. They've delivered two or three packages to the front door, and each time I have called them. They once left a package out in the rain, ruining a Kato SD40-2 with a decoder installed. Airborne, on the other hand, hired complete [insert derogative term meaning absent-minded, lost, or clinically insane]. I bought an airbrush off eBay from an extremely nice individual, and they shipped it via AE. I did not receive it for two weeks; Airborne claimed they delivered it to Texas instead of Tennessee, despite the fact that there is not a town with the same name as mine in Texas. It was placed behind my riding lawn mower on my carport one day by an unknown individual. I suspect it was delivered up the road, unless someone drove all the way from Texas. AE sure didn't deliver it. Soon after, they were swallowed up. I sure wonder why. Whistling [:-^]

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Posted by Midnight Railroader on Friday, December 29, 2006 11:00 PM
 CurtMc wrote:

What is with Colorado??  Come on guys, the REST OF THE COUNTRY says 'out in Denver they know how to handle snow' yet TWICE now you guys are hiking your skirts up and calling out the National Guard????

 

Get with it, it is WINTER guys, and you live, like, ah, in the MOUNTAINS!SoapBox [soapbox]Sign - With Stupid [#wstupid]Sign - Dots [#dots]

 

P.S.  Are the trains running?

I don't know about other posters, but I live in Denver, which is NOT in the mountains. And any city that gets 24-48 hours of continuous snow is going to have problems.
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Posted by Midnight Railroader on Friday, December 29, 2006 10:57 PM
Th snow has, apparently, completely crippled DHL; I ordered some model train stuff before the first blizzard, last week, and while I have gotten deliveries from USPS and FedEx, DHL says they last saw my package in their facility...which is right here, in town...but now, they aren't sure when it will be in my hands, because they closed down for the first storm...then Christmas...then the second storm..now New Year's.

It didn't help that, despite the fact that I gave them a tracking number, they wanted a physical description of the box...so, I guess the computerized system is useless and they intended to go find it by digging through all their freight.

Needless to say, I will NEVER use DHL again.

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Posted by csmith9474 on Friday, December 29, 2006 10:51 PM
 uspscsx wrote:

Dekruif!

By all means, post the pics!

I'm not a meteorologist, but do know a bit about it, and do keep up with the weather. By this point, we (Elev. 2500 ft) usually have had eight to twelve "snows," usually netting us six to ten inches; the "mountains" (Elev. 3300-4500 ft) ten to thirteen "snows" for about ten to fifteen inches. It's snowed maybe four times, for a grand total of 1.5 inches. (Mtn's have gotten considerably more snow in those four events, around six inches) I could go on about why we've gotten so little and when we (and some of the east) will see snow, but this is a trains forum! We are in the middle of a warm spell that will last until mid-Jan.

Matt

Did you check out the pics I posted from last week's blizzard? That is about the same as we are at NOW. There is still more to come.. Fortunately there isn't the wind there was with the last storm. I am going to try to get some pics tomorrow after we get a little more snow.

 

BTW, dekruif, where are you exactly? I know there are a few of us on here in Colorado and was thinkin' maybe we should all meet up at Caboose sometime.

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Posted by TrainFreak409 on Friday, December 29, 2006 9:10 PM
Send some of it this way...I've been waiting for some snow out here in Maryland...But our weather has been between 40 and 50 degrees...

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