SteamFreak Today the Canadaland dollar is worth 97cents to the U.S.peso. SteamFreak Railphotog wrote: IHC retails the engine alone for around US $129.95 on sale. So getting the whole set for $99.95CAN is a decent price as the engine alone is worth much more than that. Currently that converts to about $88 USD. Nelson Railphotog wrote: IHC retails the engine alone for around US $129.95 on sale. So getting the whole set for $99.95CAN is a decent price as the engine alone is worth much more than that. Currently that converts to about $88 USD. Nelson
Today the Canadaland dollar is worth 97cents to the U.S.peso. SteamFreak Railphotog wrote: IHC retails the engine alone for around US $129.95 on sale. So getting the whole set for $99.95CAN is a decent price as the engine alone is worth much more than that. Currently that converts to about $88 USD. Nelson Railphotog wrote: IHC retails the engine alone for around US $129.95 on sale. So getting the whole set for $99.95CAN is a decent price as the engine alone is worth much more than that.
Today the Canadaland dollar is worth 97cents to the U.S.peso.
SteamFreak Railphotog wrote: IHC retails the engine alone for around US $129.95 on sale. So getting the whole set for $99.95CAN is a decent price as the engine alone is worth much more than that. Currently that converts to about $88 USD. Nelson
Railphotog wrote: IHC retails the engine alone for around US $129.95 on sale. So getting the whole set for $99.95CAN is a decent price as the engine alone is worth much more than that.
IHC retails the engine alone for around US $129.95 on sale. So getting the whole set for $99.95CAN is a decent price as the engine alone is worth much more than that.
Currently that converts to about $88 USD.
Nelson
Yes, very interesting. Then they did make some compromises to make the lower price point. Hopefully they aren't drastic enough to affect the performance, but it would be interesting to do a side-by-side comparison of the two versions. That would be one way to get that instruction sheet.
Or maybe there's someone out there who would scan theirs for you.
Ex-Southern 385 Being Hoisted
That is very interesting. The PC 2-10-2 only has the 1st and 4th drivers sprung. All the others are solid and yes, the center driver does not contact the rails.
The IHC engine also has...
A six-page, well-illustrated instruction sheet has three exploded iso-metric drawings and parts lists that show everything used in all the versions of the locomotive.
I would love to see a copy of that instruction sheet.
Mike,
I thought you'd be interested in the MRR review of the generic IHC 2-10-2. I think you said that the center drivers were higher than the others, unsprung, and not equipped with bronze bearings. They say "The first, third, and fourth drivers have soft springs, while the second and last sets are stiffer to help stabilize the moving engine."
The 3rd, or center pair are sprung on their sample, so maybe there are differences in the President's Choice version.
I made a post with a link to some videos showing how my new President's Choice/IHC 4-6-4 makes a strange creaking/groaning noise at slow speed.
http://www.trains.com/trccs/forums/1017742/ShowPost.aspx
I have one 4-6-4 Hudson, one 2-10-2 Big Ten and one 4-8-2 Mountain. They all share the same drive and boiler. Just the wheel arrangement is different.
My 2-10-2 used to make a sort of squeaking or creaking sound when it came to a stop very slowly. Especially when pulling a load. It went away after awhile. I tried lube everything I could think of, but nothing seemed to help.
Now my 4-6-4 is doing the same thing..................
Mike;
Thanks. It'll have to wait till the weekend. I've got a couple of busy days here at work and tonight is curling. So... I really do appreciate your help. BTW how many of these locomotives do you have? That is the Hudson and the Big 10.
I noticed a slight skeaking sound eminating from my Big 10. Can I assume that is normal during the first runnings?
GUB
What you see spinning below the boiler is the worm gear. For some reason the gears are not meshing properly.
Try tightening the brass coloured screw on the bottom that holds the worm gear housing in place. It may have come loose. The front of the housing has a tab that fits into the frame, and the rear is held down by the screw that goes into the brass coloured nut at the back of the worm gear housing.
If that doesn't fix it, then there might be a problem with the other gears. The worm gear meshes with an idler gear that in turn meshes with the gear on the axle. One of these might be broken, cracked, or missing.
Good Luck,
Mike Sowsun
Oakville, Ontario
(click to enlarge photo)
Msowsun;
By the way thanks for the photographs and the instructions. I am sure they will be a big help.
msowsun wrote: GUB, Before you take it apart, try and isolate what the problem is...If you put it on the track with another engine, will the other engine run? "Yes the other locomotive seems to run fine".Does the headlight or smoke unit work? "Headlight goes on, but I have not tried the smoke unit and am reluctant to try at this point."Does it make any difference if the tender is plugged or unplugged into the loco? "It doesn't appear to make any difference if the tender is plugged in or not. The back up or rear light does go on as soon as the power is turned on. I did notice that the headlight does not actually get bright until about 50% power.One other thing I noticed this time was a clicking sound when the power was turned on. It sounds like as if a gear was missing or something isn't connected or something wasn't quite in sinc. But still no go. I can see something going around just below the boiler. Any help will be appreciated.GUB "I had purchased last years model 4-6-4 Hudson. Finally took it out of the box 6 months after buying it and ran it for about an hour and then it quit. Anybody had a similar experience?"GUB
GUB, Before you take it apart, try and isolate what the problem is...
If you put it on the track with another engine, will the other engine run? "Yes the other locomotive seems to run fine".
Does the headlight or smoke unit work? "Headlight goes on, but I have not tried the smoke unit and am reluctant to try at this point."
Does it make any difference if the tender is plugged or unplugged into the loco? "It doesn't appear to make any difference if the tender is plugged in or not. The back up or rear light does go on as soon as the power is turned on. I did notice that the headlight does not actually get bright until about 50% power.
One other thing I noticed this time was a clicking sound when the power was turned on. It sounds like as if a gear was missing or something isn't connected or something wasn't quite in sinc. But still no go. I can see something going around just below the boiler. Any help will be appreciated.
"I had purchased last years model 4-6-4 Hudson. Finally took it out of the box 6 months after buying it and ran it for about an hour and then it quit. Anybody had a similar experience?"
If you put it on the track with another engine, will the other engine run?
Does the headlight or smoke unit work?
Does it make any difference if the tender is plugged or unplugged into the loco?
Steve B, $13.95 was a good price - where was that?
Kurt
Here is an "exploded" photo of the IHC/Mehano (President's Choice) 2-10-2. It shares the same construction.
The begin the disassembly, remove the cab by taking off the rear handrails and then use a small screwdriver to push in the two little tabs that hold the cab onto bottom section.
Then unscrew the boiler, there is one screw under the front truck and two screws under the cab area of the frame. It is a snug fit and you will have to wiggle it a bit as you pull the boiler away from the frame. The headlight and smoke generator wires are connected to the front of the frame and run through the boiler weight. The wires will have to be cut or de-soldered or you might want to just leave them connected while you work on the rest of it.
There is a screw on the top of the boiler that holds in the weight. The weight should slide out to the rear. Once the weight have been removed, unscrew the screw in the cab area that holds the top and lower sections together. Then the top can be removed from the bottom by squeezing near the two tabs that hold the two pieces of the boiler together.
It sounds complicated, but lit is fairly obvious once you get started.
Kurt wrote:GUB, none of my 464's has died yet but I have had to tinker quite a bit with them to prevent derailments. I wonder if your engine has a loose wire leading to the motor?
Thanks. I have sent IHC an email a few days ago to see if i could get a schematic of the engine or instructions on how to take it a part as I am somewhat nervous of taking it apart and braeking something and then not getting it back together. So far I have not had a reply.Funny you should mention derailments as this is when the engine stopped working. There was a derailment as mentioned a slight grinding sound, a little more movement and then nothing. No there is only a whining sound when the power is on.
Thanks again for your suggestion.
I had purchased last years model 4-6-4 Hudson. Finally took it out of the box 6 months after buying it and ran it for about an hour and then it quit. Anybody had a similar experience?
Got mine for Christmas. For those who are interested there are no more of last year's models left here in Ingersoll as of yesterday when I checked.
Our Independant sold out of this years model very, very quickly. I went in sometime in November (early I think) to have a look at them. There was 8 to 10 on the shelf. I went in a week later and there was zero left. During the summer i had picked up last year's Hudson for $49.95 and as of tonight there are 8 on the shelves at the same price. I thought I would mention that in case anyone was interested.
ghonz711 wrote: Pathfinder wrote: wgnrr wrote: It's hard for me to believe that (as someone mentioned earlier) 25,000 train sets are sold out.Must be good sellers!PhilSomeone else posted that 25,000 units were done for this year (half of last years not so successful set). I posted that I was told by the local store that they were sold out nation wide and made the jump to say that means 25,000 sets were sold.Yes, a good seller this year and that bodes well for next Hate to burst your bubble, but either they made more than 25 000 sets or they aren't sold out yet because my local Loblaws still has at least 10 in stock. And here in Richmond Hill, as far as I know, there aren't that many modelers... at least my age Hopefully they will outlast the Christmas rush so that I can get mine for a discount!Ghonz
Pathfinder wrote: wgnrr wrote: It's hard for me to believe that (as someone mentioned earlier) 25,000 train sets are sold out.Must be good sellers!PhilSomeone else posted that 25,000 units were done for this year (half of last years not so successful set). I posted that I was told by the local store that they were sold out nation wide and made the jump to say that means 25,000 sets were sold.Yes, a good seller this year and that bodes well for next
wgnrr wrote: It's hard for me to believe that (as someone mentioned earlier) 25,000 train sets are sold out.Must be good sellers!Phil
It's hard for me to believe that (as someone mentioned earlier) 25,000 train sets are sold out.
Must be good sellers!
Phil
Someone else posted that 25,000 units were done for this year (half of last years not so successful set). I posted that I was told by the local store that they were sold out nation wide and made the jump to say that means 25,000 sets were sold.Yes, a good seller this year and that bodes well for next
Hate to burst your bubble, but either they made more than 25 000 sets or they aren't sold out yet because my local Loblaws still has at least 10 in stock. And here in Richmond Hill, as far as I know, there aren't that many modelers... at least my age Hopefully they will outlast the Christmas rush so that I can get mine for a discount!
Ghonz
What was meant was there were none left in any warehouses, all stock was in stores. So any store looking to get some/ or more was out of luck, like my store that brought in none.
One of the local Zehrs in St. Catharines brought about 40 sets into the store when introduced in November. I have been monitoring their pile since I am in the store almost every day or so. Last week they started to sell very briskly - today they have only 15 left. With only 12 days to go until Christmas I bet they will soon all be gone. I was hoping to pick up a "discounted" second set after Christmas but my chances are growing dimer with each passing day.
Badger
- Matt
wgnrr wrote:It's hard for me to believe that (as someone mentioned earlier) 25,000 train sets are sold out.Must be good sellers!Phil
selector wrote:Well, fellas, if the Powers That Be decide they liked the response this year, we can hope to get a repeat nice package next year, maybe even for the same price.
That is what I am hoping for, PC must be happy they sold out 2 weeks before Christmas. A CP unit would be nice for next year
Lionel collector, stuck in an N scaler's modelling space.