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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, October 14, 2003 12:57 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by locomotive3

Here are some six axle exceptions to the radius recommendation per" MR reviews" that should run on 18"
Athearn SD-2
Atlas SD35
Lifelike SD60M, although 24" is better
Kato SD80MAC w/o cars, although 24" is recommended
Kato SD70MAC w/o cars, although 24" is recommended

Atlas is coming out with a new three axle that will run on 18"
but I don't recall the model.



In as far the coupler comment by md; perhaps substituting a longer shank
couplers on the loco/ lead car could be a solution.

Since I run 22" I have no way of testing that theory.

Chuck Walsh




It's the SD24 that will also run on 18"radius
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Posted by nfmisso on Thursday, October 9, 2003 11:48 AM
Shaun;

The typical coal train power in 1970s and 1980s were 3000 hp six axle diesels, mostly EMD SD40-2, with some GE C30-7 thrown in. HO scale models of both have been made; Athearn, Bachmann, GSB, Kato, BLI (announced) for SD40-2 and Atlas, RPP for the GE. Most of these will barely go around an 18" radius curve. The Atlas GE's I had would, but the wheels squealled something awful, and the frieght car coupled to the locomotive would be derailed.

Consider going with a coal branch locomotive configuration instead. On the N&W/NS this could be two GP40's sandwiching a slug. (see Model Railroading magazines Jan 1994, July/Aug 2000 and Aug/Sep 2000). On the CSX, the road slugs are often EMD GP30 with no engines, but with cabs, dynamic brakes and fuel tank. These are often coupled with GP40-2 locomotives.
Nigel N&W in HO scale, 1950 - 1955 (..and some a bit newer too) Now in San Jose, California
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Posted by Nieuweboer on Thursday, October 9, 2003 10:09 AM
I think running a six-axle locomotive such as a SD or GE U33C on 18" curves is asking for trouble, even if they stay on the track often the wheels will bind and this will slow down the train. If you have a layout that has a size allowing for no bigger than 18" curves stick to 4 axle locomotives. This also has the advantage that you can multiple without the train getting too long.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, October 9, 2003 6:05 AM
Here are some six axle exceptions to the radius recommendation per" MR reviews" that should run on 18"
Athearn SD-2
Atlas SD35
Lifelike SD60M, although 24" is better
Kato SD80MAC w/o cars, although 24" is recommended
Kato SD70MAC w/o cars, although 24" is recommended

Atlas is coming out with a new three axle that will run on 18"
but I don't recall the model.

In as far the coupler comment by md; perhaps substituting a longer shank
couplers on the loco/ lead car could be a solution.

Since I run 22" I have no way of testing that theory.

Chuck Walsh

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, October 9, 2003 12:20 AM
The biggest concern you'll run into is the longer the loco the more coupler over-hang there will be. As long as the loco doesn't pull the coal car off the track (sorta sideways to the outside) your'e good to go.
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Posted by CP5415 on Wednesday, October 8, 2003 9:53 PM
It depends on what you want to run Shawn. I have one 18" radius curve & I run Athearn locomotives around it with no problems. SD40-2's, AC4400's & C44-9w's. Rivarossi's 4-6-6-4's
I have had no problems with this corner even at full throttle. My 2 year old daughter can vouch for that.
I hope this helps
Just my 2 cents

Gordon

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Locomotive question
Posted by ShaunCN on Wednesday, October 8, 2003 9:42 PM
HI evryone. I have a question about locomotives for my layout in HO scale. I need some power from the 1970-present day period to run on my long coal trains, mixed freight ect. I am running on 18 radius and need to know the biggest power i can run. Right now my biggest loco is a U-28b. Please help

Thank you
Shaun[:D]
derailment? what derailment? All reports of derailments are lies. Their are no derailments within a hundreed miles of here.

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