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Posted by Budliner on Wednesday, October 4, 2006 12:33 PM

csmith9474

you are so right

I just cant seem to get to the point that I want to paint them

I just use some brasso that leaves a oily finish

I was going to use some car wax, as I like the display look of the brass

it seems if you paint them, that they just look like another ho car

but shined up like a gold bar ... hmm looks so good

I did get a few bottles of polyscale engin black and graphite

I did make some boxes with foam and put some of the silicon gel pads in there with them...

hope it stops some of that tarnish, that cabin car will get pennsy colors if enything

 

 

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Posted by csmith9474 on Wednesday, October 4, 2006 12:03 PM

What method do you plan to use for painting them, and what road are you going to paint them in? It probably won't be long before they start to tarnish (or at least pick up a little oxidation). I have heard that baking paint on is a great method. I plan on trying it myself one of these days. The only thing is that most of the brass I buy is factory painted/finished (mostly new), so I haven't had a chance to fool with painting yet. A lot of the unpainted brass comes with a laquer coat from the factory to stop or slow tarnish.

Keep us posted on your progress. Looking great so far!!!

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Posted by Budliner on Wednesday, October 4, 2006 12:07 AM
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Posted by Budliner on Monday, September 25, 2006 10:36 PM

hey simon

nothing in the drain

just on that paper plate but thank for the compliment

I guess I got lucky with that 119 photo

hey................... 'tracklayer good to see you made it back on here

sup

I love the brass

K

 

 

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Posted by Tracklayer on Monday, September 25, 2006 8:04 PM

Hey Budliner. It's been a while...

Hey man, you did a really outstanding job on that tender to say the least!. Keep up the great work...

Tracklayer

 

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Posted by simon1966 on Monday, September 25, 2006 5:04 PM

Bud, your sink drains must look awful!!

The tender looks great, you must be the world leader in cleaning up old brass?

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Posted by Budliner on Monday, September 25, 2006 4:29 PM
guess it came out ok
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Posted by Budliner on Saturday, September 23, 2006 11:29 PM

how's this look

 

 

 

night photo

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ken

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Posted by Budliner on Thursday, September 21, 2006 11:04 PM

check this out

I found some sprung trucks

 

I just seen a Japanese Brass Model and it looked like the same co.

it was made by UNITED

 

see here

 

Ken

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Posted by Budliner on Thursday, September 21, 2006 8:12 PM

looks like a bad oil spill

 

lol

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Posted by canazar on Thursday, September 21, 2006 7:47 PM
Wow!  I just migth have been on to something with my guess..   Bud, that cleaned up real nice.   There is something so cool about brass..  Looking good!

Best Regards, Big John

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Posted by Budliner on Thursday, September 21, 2006 5:23 PM

 

this one is debatable

 

:O)

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Posted by andrechapelon on Thursday, September 21, 2006 4:41 PM

 Renegade1c wrote:
This is not a UP 4-8-4 Tender or UP Challenger. UP used Centepede Tenders (1 free two axle truck and 6 fixed axles) for the 4-8-4's, Big Boys and Challengers. They used these because it distributed the wieght of the tenders over more axles thus reducing the stress on the rails.

Sorry, but this type of tender was used for the original 1936 built UP Challengers as well as the the original 1937 built FEF-1 4-8-4's.

Link to builder's photo of UP 806: http://www.steamlocomotive.com/northern/up806.jpg

Link to photo of UP 3822: http://www.snowcrest.net/photobob/upl38.jpg

Andre

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Posted by Renegade1c on Thursday, September 21, 2006 4:29 PM
This is not a UP 4-8-4 Tender or UP Challenger. UP used Centepede Tenders (1 free two axle truck and 6 fixed axles) for the 4-8-4's, Big Boys and Challengers. They used these because it distributed the wieght of the tenders over more axles thus reducing the stress on the rails.


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Posted by Budliner on Thursday, September 21, 2006 1:46 PM

more photos tonight

 

 

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Posted by Budliner on Wednesday, September 20, 2006 8:19 PM

here are more photos

 

 

working slow

 

 

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Posted by Budliner on Sunday, September 17, 2006 8:37 PM

heyyy canazar

I think I did that same jiggie move as in your photo  when I won this little jewel

check out some of these aux tenders

check out this aux tender on the rotary plow

I cant wait to get this back to pristine condition

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=300026379453&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=020

I have been scaling back the layout as I just rent an apartment and that land lady wants to make an inspection, most of my projects are on hold. but I always have room for some brass inventory

 

K

 

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Posted by canazar on Sunday, September 17, 2006 12:17 PM

I admit, I am far from a steam expert so definatly take my word to the bottom of the info sheet, but when I saw that tender, my first thought was UP.  It reminded me of the fuel tenders they used for the turbines, which were old water/oil tenders.  

Two things though to kepe in mind, the truck configuration for axles which can help narrow it down if you go surfing through pictures, and, whose to say that it is a true prototypical tender?  Model makers were known for being a little free minded when comign up with stuff.   Either way though, it looks good, definatly worth the price I think. And will make a nice a project to work on.   Good find!

Best Regards, Big John

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Posted by Budliner on Sunday, September 17, 2006 1:33 AM

thanks oldline

thats my favorite locomotive 4-8-4

sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeet

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Posted by oldline1 on Saturday, September 16, 2006 11:02 PM

Ken,

The tender pictured is probably the normal oil tender for a UP FEF-1 4-8-4 or early version Challengers.

It most definitely is not one of the N&W aux tenders or the modified L&N M-1 2-8-4 tender used on the Southern Ry steam excursions.

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Posted by Budliner on Saturday, September 16, 2006 9:21 PM

hello DRS

you betcha

I had to get it as it was under $30

I will have to do some work to get it back to shape but I love the rivet detal on the oil tenders

I actually have buchmann's J class locomotive and had a bit of trouble with it (heck I still have trouble with it) after I sent it back to the buchmann they gave me two auxiliary tender's, but there's are not brass :O)

thanks for jumping in with some info

its muchly aprechiated

 

K

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Posted by dragonriversteel on Saturday, September 16, 2006 8:55 PM

Hi yaz Budliner,

  Back in the late 80's , i saw both the N&W J611 and the 1218. The extra water tender for both locomotives was more box looking than this tender. Bachmann makes in HO scale the water tender you seek.

Having been over 20 years since I've seen the water tender, my mind might be a little cloudy. Still a nice looking tender though.

Patrick

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thirsty locomotive
Posted by Budliner on Saturday, September 16, 2006 8:41 PM

I will be getting this tender its a strange looking unit

it looks like the extra water tender but I'm not too sure

has anyone seen this type is it from the J class????

 

Ken

 

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