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Unusual locomotive spotted today. Mystery solved!

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Posted by CMSTPP on Saturday, August 26, 2006 10:53 PM
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Exactly that type. Biggest difference is, it was painted all gray, with no markings.

This is a Vline EMD AT22C-2R EMD 12 cyl, 645 engine 1500 hp #A73

http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/vlineA73.jpg" target="_blank" title="http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/vlineA73.jpg">http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/vlineA73.jpg

 

Obviously, this one was regauged to standard gauge. I have no idea where it was being taken. Probably on it's way to a scrap line somewhere.

Nope!! That is not the milwaukee road little joe. The Little joe was an electric locomotive that ran on over head wires. There would be pantographs on the top of the locomotive for the electrical pickup. That locomotive is a diesel electric that I believe (but don't quote me on it) was shipped from Australia. I don't know what it would be doing there though??

 

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Posted by WSOR 3801 on Saturday, August 26, 2006 1:22 PM
Could be some of those new engines being built for China.  There is a picture of one of the GEs in the Aug 2006 Trains mag.  EMD is also building some for China.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 22, 2006 2:57 PM
Could of  been a Little Joe going to a museum.  Double ended locomotives are not really that rare in history and your description is vague, so no telling.  Fred
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Posted by AntonioFP45 on Tuesday, August 22, 2006 2:17 PM

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Although the Baldwin "Babyface" was usually associated with the Jersey Central I'm almost sure I remember seeing a photo of one decked out in MOPAC blue and wasn't there a southern road that had a few???

Yes,  Seaboard Airline had at least one "Centipede" giant and a couple of the smaller cab units as well. I don't know how many but the numbers were very low. 

A shame that though while very attractive, they were maintenance nightmares for the railroad's shop forces. Some of the problems, if I'm not mistaken, included oil leakage on top of electrical cable connections and traction motor blowers that cooled the track ballast instead of the traction motors!

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 21, 2006 7:05 PM
I don't know about the A class being retired and sold off, I saw one running on Sunday.
Though their bodies are those of the early-1950s B class, they were rebuilt in the 80s with new engines so are far from the most obsolete locos on Australian rails. For that matter a handful of Bs that missed out on reconstruction are still running.
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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Monday, August 21, 2006 12:08 AM
If it's going to South America, they're going to have to a bunch of fixing on it before they use it. It looked to be in pretty sorry shape. I hate that I didn't have a camera with me.

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Posted by james saunders on Sunday, August 20, 2006 9:58 PM
I think i might be able to shed some light on it..

The last of these A class locomotives was retired about one month ago, and i believe some were sold to a railroad in South America, that would probably explain why it was in your neck of the woods.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 20, 2006 9:37 PM
Although the Baldwin "Babyface" was usually associated with the Jersey Central I'm almost sure I remember seeing a photo of one decked out in MOPAC blue and wasn't there a southern road that had a few???
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Posted by pcarrell on Sunday, August 20, 2006 9:20 PM
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 Also, Clyde in Austrailia may have built some EMD types for use there(there were some long F3 looking engines with A-1-A trucks).

Jim

Read my second post up above.

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Posted by btransue on Sunday, August 20, 2006 9:06 PM
Here is a link to the CNJ Baldwins DR6-4-2000
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Posted by jrbernier on Sunday, August 20, 2006 8:29 PM

Baldwin built some 'Babyface' double enders for CNJ - only one order IIRC.  Also, Clyde in Austrailia may have built some EMD types for use there(there were some long F3 looking engines with A-1-A trucks).

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Sunday, August 20, 2006 8:14 PM
I recall seeing something like that one time, associated with a railroad in Maryland, I believe.

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Posted by dgwinup on Sunday, August 20, 2006 8:10 PM

Didn't one of the loco manufacturers build an E- or F-series loco with a cob on both ends as an experiment, maybe for the Milwaukee Road?  The loco would never have to be turned.  I remember reading about something like that some time ago but can't remember the details (old age, ya know?).

Sorry I'm not much help.

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Sunday, August 20, 2006 7:24 PM

 

Exactly that type. Biggest difference is, it was painted all gray, with no markings.

This is a Vline EMD AT22C-2R EMD 12 cyl, 645 engine 1500 hp #A73

http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/vlineA73.jpg" target="_blank" title="http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/vlineA73.jpg">http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/vlineA73.jpg

 

Obviously, this one was regauged to standard gauge. I have no idea where it was being taken. Probably on it's way to a scrap line somewhere.

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Posted by pcarrell on Sunday, August 20, 2006 7:09 PM

This is a Vline EMD AT22C-2R Built by Clyde Engineering in Australia, EMD licensee. This unit is 5' 3 gauge, EMD 12 cyl,645 engine 1500 hp #A73

http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/vlineA73.jpg

Something like that?

It was built by license of EMD, so there could have been others, even in this country.  They would be as rare as hens teeth though!

 

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Posted by jrbernier on Sunday, August 20, 2006 6:47 PM

Jeffery,

  Maybe an 'export' shipment?  Here is a link to a photo of an export engine delivered to England:

http://emdexport.railfan.net/uk/uk2.html

 

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Posted by pcarrell on Sunday, August 20, 2006 4:53 PM

Could that be one of the old Milwaukee Road electrics or some variation of it?

Just a thought.......

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Unusual locomotive spotted today. Mystery solved!
Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Sunday, August 20, 2006 4:18 PM
Saw something unusual today, it looked like an old E unit, except that it had 2 cabs, 1 on either end and 6 wheel trucks. It wasn't in operation, just being pulled along with a consist of SD40's. It was painted nuetral gray with no markings. Anybody have an idea what it was, cause I don't know,

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