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Here's the Church and Here's the Steeple--and a modeling tip

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Posted by SpaceMouse on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 7:01 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Fergmiester

QUOTE: Originally posted by SpaceMouse

Jarrell,

There's something you don't see everyday. At least, I've never seen it before. I read down to see Jeffery's comment and saw that you had commented. Then I looked at the forum and neither had your name shown up, nor did the post bump.

Anyone else ever seen that?

Edit: I just counted the mumber of posts and it is off by one. Jarrell, I guess MR doesn't think your opnion counts.


I commented on what a wonderful job you did yesterday but on which forum I can't remember[%-)]because it never got posted. So I'll say it again... Excellent job Chip, Really excellent!!

How do you do the stone work? As there are a few churches and other buildings in these parts that use that style of stone work.

Fergie


Basically, it's a three step process. You paint the entire stone with the color of the mortar, in this case, a dark grey. The second step is to drybrush in a light grey, but not being too careful about full coverage so you get relief of the darker color coming through. The third step is painting individual stones with different colors. I had a total of 3 colors.

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Posted by Fergmiester on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 6:49 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by SpaceMouse

Jarrell,

There's something you don't see everyday. At least, I've never seen it before. I read down to see Jeffery's comment and saw that you had commented. Then I looked at the forum and neither had your name shown up, nor did the post bump.

Anyone else ever seen that?

Edit: I just counted the mumber of posts and it is off by one. Jarrell, I guess MR doesn't think your opnion counts.


I commented on what a wonderful job you did yesterday but on which forum I can't remember[%-)]because it never got posted. So I'll say it again... Excellent job Chip, Really excellent!!

How do you do the stone work? As there are a few churches and other buildings in these parts that use that style of stone work.

Fergie

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Posted by SpaceMouse on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 6:27 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by ereimer

looks great chip .

if anything you could darken the stained glass a bit more , still looks a bit too bright


Even though it is not as bright as the light on the pictures make them out, I tend to agree with you.

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Posted by ereimer on Monday, June 26, 2006 8:45 PM
looks great chip .

if anything you could darken the stained glass a bit more , still looks a bit too bright
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Posted by nbrodar on Monday, June 26, 2006 7:16 PM
Looks good, Chip. I'm in the middle of constructing the same kit, and was worried about the windows. Thanks for the tip.

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Posted by jeffers_mz on Monday, June 26, 2006 4:31 PM
"Dang camera can see better than I can."

Now there's a tip, right there. Thanks, I'll be putting that to work from here on.

That, uh, door paint process will be in the "how-to"...right?

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Posted by SpaceMouse on Monday, June 26, 2006 4:26 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Brunton

Nice work! Wanna do one for me?


Uh, well, uh, no.

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Posted by SpaceMouse on Monday, June 26, 2006 4:25 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jeffers_mz

....I hate to even bring this up, but in the pics, there appears to be just the slightest uneven gap above the large drip mold between the first and second story of the steeple.


There are several places that the photographs pointed out to me. Dang camera can see better than I can. Thanks for noticing the door. It's my favorite part. It didn't take long, but I used two colors of paint swirled on the same bru***o get a grain look.

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Posted by Pruitt on Monday, June 26, 2006 4:19 PM
Nice work! Wanna do one for me?
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Posted by jeffers_mz on Monday, June 26, 2006 4:16 PM
I agree, the stone work looks exceptional, but the shingles and trimwork do too.

Beyoind that, the front door is a piece of art, that is one FINE looking slab of wood.

Great work, Chip!

....I hate to even bring this up, but in the pics, there appears to be just the slightest uneven gap above the large drip mold between the first and second story of the steeple. It might be a lighting issue, but it appears to be a case where some of the paint along that groove adhered to both edges and created a sort of fillet in there, but not all the way across.

If it's not a trick of the light, I'd think that either another coat of paint in there, would fill it out, or a folded piece of 220 grit would knock down the fillets and make it even all the way across without lessening the shadow line, which is clearly intended to be there.

Ordinarily, I wouldn't even mention this, Chip, but I know how you are about your models, and us carpenters have to watch out for each other. Most folks wouldn't even notice this, but I once worked for a guy who demanded absolute perfection, and he gigged me on door cracks that took long tapered shims around the frame to the exact same depth, but which were still visually uneven, by probably less than a 64th or even a 128th over six feet. Once you've been driven to look for these, it's impossible to unlearn it.

:-)

Regardless, that is awesome work, museum grade in my book. I've already decided that nobody' else's work is going on our layout, with the exception of a couple buildings from my dad's ancient layout, but I'd make an exception for this church.

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Posted by SpaceMouse on Monday, June 26, 2006 1:57 PM
Jarrell,

There's something you don't see everyday. At least, I've never seen it before. I read down to see Jeffery's comment and saw that you had commented. Then I looked at the forum and neither had your name shown up, nor did the post bump.

Anyone else ever seen that?

Edit: I just counted the mumber of posts and it is off by one. Jarrell, I guess MR doesn't think your opnion counts.

Chip

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Posted by jacon12 on Monday, June 26, 2006 1:34 PM
Well, I'm impressed! The stone work looks like the real thing, no wonder it took so long. I have a building that has just the base in stone and I won't even consider trying to get it to look as good as yours.
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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Monday, June 26, 2006 12:30 PM
I can see why it took so long to paint. Amazing job!

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Posted by SpaceMouse on Monday, June 26, 2006 12:00 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by stripes2

Very nice work! Chip, You should do a tutorial on painting stone work!
I would love to put it on my upcoming web site.
David


I've been thinking about his all day. Since I didn't take pictures of the process, I can't do a photos essay. I can however, talk about each aspect of the process. Save all the photos, including the box, and I'll write to them.

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Posted by selector on Monday, June 26, 2006 10:29 AM
Now THAT is something to be proud of, Chip. Very nice! I slap mine together, and they look every inch like it.

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Posted by modelalaska on Monday, June 26, 2006 10:14 AM
Very nice mouse! [yeah]
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Posted by fsm1000 on Monday, June 26, 2006 9:03 AM
Looks good, you did a good job on it.
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Posted by Cox 47 on Monday, June 26, 2006 8:44 AM
Great job! Cox47
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Posted by SpaceMouse on Monday, June 26, 2006 8:29 AM
Chuck,

I look forward to seeing your Shinto Shrine among the gardens. Be sure the cherry blossoms are on bloom.

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Posted by tomikawaTT on Monday, June 26, 2006 8:25 AM
Now all you need is the good Reverend on the steps, greeting some arriving parishioners -- the girls from Tillie's, in their work clothes (parlor, not bedroom.)

Seriously, beautiful job. Almost (but not quite) makes me wi***hat my prototype was sufficiently Christian to justify owning it. (the Kiso Forest was/is the source of the cedar timbers used to maintain the Ise Shrine, one of the centers of the Shinto religion.)

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Monday, June 26, 2006 6:27 AM
Beautiful stone work. I can see why it took so long. OK, I remember the old song that went:

One day of prayin', and six wild nights of fun,
The odds against goin' to Heaven, six-to-one.

So, Chip, time to get started on that saloon...

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, June 26, 2006 5:09 AM
Very nice work! Chip, You should do a tutorial on painting stone work!
I would love to put it on my upcoming web site.
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Posted by Canondale61 on Monday, June 26, 2006 3:40 AM
very good job,
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, June 26, 2006 3:22 AM
Chip, real nice job, the stone work is very photogenic
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Here's the Church and Here's the Steeple--and a modeling tip
Posted by SpaceMouse on Sunday, June 25, 2006 11:40 PM
I've been working on this church for forever. I bought it, based upon looking at the box.....



...and assumed it was a clapboard church that would fit perfectly in the West and be an easy model to build. Well, when I opened it, it turned out to have a stone or marble design. So determined to make it work, I set about painting it. It took a lot longer than I expected, more than 6 hours per each of the main sides and less for the smaller pieces. Working 16-20 hours a week on it, it took 3 weeks to paint.

Now for the tip. After getting it together, it looked naked without the stained glass. But when I put it in, it made the work I put so much time into, look like a cheap plastic model. My wife came up with a solution. She mixed a purple mix of acrylic paint into acrylic gloss medium. This had the effect of toning down the plasticy look and making it look more like real, slightly faded stained glass.





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