s h o u t i n g ssshhhh ! !

[fsm1000]

uspscsx That's old but true LOL, I like it.

[Anonymous]

Yes, apparently we did. But, like capitalism and the unregulated free market these things should seek their own level and longevity.

[dgwinup]

This is bold text.

This is italic text.

This is underline text.

This is emphasized text and is not considered shouting.

THIS is emphasized text and is not considered shouting.

THIS IS CONSIDERED SHOUTING!

THIS IS CONSIDERED RUDE SHOUTING!

All of these "special" (look, another way of emphasizing!) characters are available to you in the Quick Reply box to the left of the text area, just above the Smilie list.

All caps is conventionally accepted as shouting. If you don't agree with it, that's fine. But others DO agree with it and may take you to task for using all caps. Some, like Karl, do it in a nice manner. Others are not so nice!

If you go with the conventions, your messages will be better accepted. If you choose to go against convention, you take your chances.

BTW, did we REALLY have to go to 3 pages on shouting? I guess we did.

Darrell, not shouting, and quiet...for now

[Anonymous]

How is all-uppercase shouting, some ask? Read a book. In informal and/or fictional writing, capitalization has conveyed a highly elevated or emotional tone for centuries. Why is anyone surprised that the use of such here in these most informal of tomes conveys any less?

[twhite]

I use Caps on this forum and several others, simply because it's easier to program in a CAP while writing than it is an italic, to emphasize a word. Of course, if we could get all of the writing programs on all of the forums to use the same word processor program, it would probably ease things for a lot of us, wouldn't it?
WOULDN'T IT?
Tom [:D]

[1shado1]

QUOTE: Originally posted by metalfrog

i could care less whether one types in caps.makes no difference to me.a few words misspelled doesn't bother me neither.i will never tell anyone about shouting nor will i tell a person he or she is a bad speller.im smart enough to know what the person is trying to type, so why some people tell others about their misspelling is beyond me.would hate to have these same people see my layout and point out the things im doing wrong on my layout.just my 2cents.terry..

No offense intended, but... I can live with bad spelling, bad grammer, lack of caps, etc. But what is REALLY difficult to read is a reply with no caps, and no spaces after punctuation marks. Makes the whole mess very difficult to read. Looks like one big run-on sentence.

Jeff

[Paul3]

Alexander,
Back in the old days of the internet, most discussion was only by ASCII text...and there is no "bold" text in ASCII. All you had were the caps, the lowercase, the numbers and a few punctuation marks. "Caps" were about the only way to show emphasis...especially shouting. At this point, most everyone understands that caps are "shouting", and it's probably not going to change. Like 2x4's not being actually 2" by 4"...

Usenet (aka, newsgroups) still frown on any kind of html posting.

BTW, I agree with ukguy that tone is used all the time in text communication, at least according to my college professors. You have to figure out your audience before you write. For example, you normally wouldn't write the same way to your boss as your old school buddy...or your mom vs. a co-worker (and so on).

Paul A. Cutler III
*****************
Weather Or No Go New Haven
*****************

[AggroJones]

QUOTE: Originally posted by uspscsx

I got tihs form na e-mial. See fi uoy tihnk ti is ture.


fi yuo cna raed tihs, yuo hvae a sgtrane mnid too
Cna yuo raed tihs? Olny 55 plepoe can.

i cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg.
The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at
Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it dseno't mtaetr in waht oerdr the ltteres in a
wrod are, the olny iproamtnt tihng is taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be
in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed
it whotuit a pboerlm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey
lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Azanmig huh? yaeh and I
awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt! if you can raed tihs forwrad it.


Now, woh ndees seplling?


Mtat (uscpssx)

Now THATS awesome! I read it straight through with no pauses....

[Anonymous]

I know, but if a BOLD seems beter, in that it is too easy to leave your caps lock on.
Alexander

[ukguy]

QUOTE: Originally posted by ukguy
It is internationally accepted by the billions of people conversing constantly online in chatrooms, forums, message boards and other online areas that typing all in caps signifies shouting.

Which part of my statement confused you Alexander?

QUOTE: [i]originally posted by alexander13[i]
How is it shouting?

It is shouting because it is internationally accepted as such by the vast majority of the online comunity.
Just like walking upto some one in the street and sticking your tongue out at them is viewed as not acceptable, its not illegal, theres no real law against it (that I know of) but its generally accepted as being rude.

JUST LIKE TYPING ALL IN CAPS, GOT IT NOW?

And yes Tatans typing can convey a tone.

Have fun & be safe.
Karl.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by alexander13

How is it shouting?

I NEED HELP WITH FIXING XXXXXX TRAIN
YEAH YOU ARE ALL REAL IDIOTS
Please not that i dont mean anything said in these posts
So they are both the same?
The first one is just an accident, the second is just shouting, yet if i type a whole paragraph in caps accidentilly it is shouting?
I would think that bold writing would symbolise shouting
Alexander

On, blod idinci...

Sorry... Bold, in my opinion, indicates putting emphasis on something.


(using lowercase) i LIKE csx, or....i like csx.

Now, which looks like SHOUTING to you?

[Anonymous]

I got tihs form na e-mial. See fi uoy tihnk ti is ture.


fi yuo cna raed tihs, yuo hvae a sgtrane mnid too
Cna yuo raed tihs? Olny 55 plepoe can.

i cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg.
The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at
Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it dseno't mtaetr in waht oerdr the ltteres in a
wrod are, the olny iproamtnt tihng is taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be
in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed
it whotuit a pboerlm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey
lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Azanmig huh? yaeh and I
awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt! if you can raed tihs forwrad it.


Now, woh ndees seplling?


Mtat (uscpssx)

[Anonymous]

How is it shouting?

I NEED HELP WITH FIXING XXXXXX TRAIN
YEAH YOU ARE ALL REAL IDIOTS
Please not that i dont mean anything said in these posts
So they are both the same?
The first one is just an accident, the second is just shouting, yet if i type a whole paragraph in caps accidentilly it is shouting?
I would think that bold writing would symbolise shouting
Alexander

[ukguy]

QUOTE: Posted by ukguy :
PS: friendly note.... typing all in caps is considered as yelling to most folks

As I was the first to "admonish" so harshly this participant I feel I should respond. It seems I was the instigator of the “deluge”.. (actually there were only 2 admonishments, mine and one other other)

http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=-1&TOPIC_ID=64234&REPLY_ID=723462#723462

It is internationally accepted by the billions of people conversing constantly online in chatrooms, forums, message boards and other online areas that typing all in caps signifies shouting. I have been in many areas of this online 'community' for over 15yrs. Typing individual words in caps emphasises them.

It makes NO sense to say that you type in caps because you are sight impared... what would be the point of typing a question in caps when all the answers recieved would not be in caps, you couldnt read the replies, it would make more sense to increase the font size of ALL text on screen.

My sincere apologies for pointing out in a "friendly note" a GLOBALLY accepted protocol in the attempt to make someones online experience more rewarding and hopefully prevent them from receiving real admonishment from another group of not so friendly online participants.

Have fun & be safe,
Karl.

[Paul3]

zeis96,
I also use all caps when I'm using AutoCAD or drafting by hand, but my drafting has nothing to do with posting on an internet forum.

The fact is the way you type on the internet is like the way you dress in person. "The clothes make the man", as the saying goes, and on the 'net it's your typing. It may not be fair, it may be silly, but it doesn't change the fact that it is still true.

So ignore netiquette at your own peril. For if you choose to ignore convention, chances are that folks will ignore you right back.

Paul A. Cutler III
*****************
Weather Or No Go New Haven
*****************

[zeis96]

I don't have anything useful to add but I agree with tatans 100%. I also use all caps when I write my police reports, so far nobody has told me to calm it down.

[dave9999]

Well, it's nice to know that some topics around here can get 44 responses while a some "boring" train related post dies a slow death way back on page 5.[xx(][swg] Dave

45 responses, if you count this one.[:P]

[MAbruce]

HoW aBoUt AlTeRnAtInG cApS aNd LoWer CaSe? [:D][:D]

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by jeffrey-wimberly

QUOTE: Originally posted by alexander13

QUOTE: Originally posted by brothaslide

I don't think we all hand write in all caps so why type that way?

Most people dont write in caps, but i have some problems, so i have to write in caps, if it isn't it is even less legible.. Either way, my handwriting is illegible

You think your handwriting is illegible? Mine's so bad, I've been accused of being a lawyer or a doctor!

I'm not in a position to comment on your handwriting, just that mine is really bad. Most of the time you cant even read it

[jeffrey-wimberly]

QUOTE: Originally posted by alexander13

QUOTE: Originally posted by brothaslide

I don't think we all hand write in all caps so why type that way?

Most people dont write in caps, but i have some problems, so i have to write in caps, if it isn't it is even less legible.. Either way, my handwriting is illegible

You think your handwriting is illegible? Mine's so bad, I've been accused of being a lawyer or a doctor!

[MrKLUKE]

.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by brothaslide

I don't think we all hand write in all caps so why type that way?

Most people dont write in caps, but i have some problems, so i have to write in caps, if it isnt it is even less legible.. Either way, my handwriting is unlegible

[Anonymous]

On a related note...

http://www.funnyjunk.com/funny_pictures/1062/Proven+Research [(-D]

[PennsyHoosier]

LOL AT THIS WHOLE THREAD!

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[fsm1000]

At one time machines use to say what was typed [text to voice is not new] for the visually impaired. When someone wanted to emphasize something they typed it in capitals causing the machine to do a type of shouting. I worked security at the CNIB [Canadian National Institue for the Blind] in the 70's and seen these in use. I am not totally sure, but I think it stems from those.

I do know that shouting, as in typing all caps, was considered poor etiquette.
So tatans it is not an 'invented' thing that 'someone' just decided to come up with.
It is a real thing that has, and does exist.

Also as far as good literary literature goes [not most of the trash out there now a days] yes you can SHOUT, and do many things and express ones self in many ways literarily. You can show singing, whispering, etc. Also showing a title or company name in all caps is a way of showing its importance. I read a lot and have seen this over and over.
I know our school system sucks from comments people make that I see online, the manner in which some people write, and spellings etc.
They actually pass kids who fail english now. At least here they do. And it shows.

Anyhow, I hope that clears things up for you.

[Anonymous]

Though my spelling and grammer aren't the greatest, one of my biggest pet peaves is people who type in all lower case and people who type in all caps. Don't know why, that's just me.

[SpaceMouse]

QUOTE: Originally posted by BNSFrailfan

I like useing full text 'caps' because there much more pleasing to me. It's not a form of this so-called yelling. I would like to hear if it is right or wrong from Bergie's mouth. Until then,there is 'nothing' wrong with caps. It is not what you people call shouting. There are people who like to use captial lettars. Allan.

You can call it what you want, but no matter what you think it means others will think it's rude. Think of it like wearing shoes in a Japanese man's house. Like it or not, you are part of an online culture. You can wear a shirt that shows a bare hanging belly and burp the Star Spangled Banner, if you wish, but your not going to have many friends, even if you don't see the harm.

[warner brook]

good evening
selector you just gave me a headache.

[Anonymous]

I like useing full text 'caps' because there much more pleasing to me. It's not a form of this so-called yelling. I would like to hear if it is right or wrong from Bergie's mouth. Until then,there is 'nothing' wrong with caps. It is not what you people call shouting. There are people who like to use captial lettars. Allan.