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Scratchbuilt GE Prime Mover 7FDL

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Posted by Herrmann Shortline co on Thursday, March 9, 2017 8:03 AM

Awesome job, I like the idea of putting one of these inside of locomotive. Any chance you could give me some tips on how to build my own? I plan to put it inside my old U25b unit.

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Posted by kgill on Wednesday, April 17, 2013 10:00 PM

Did we ever get to see the shop set up that was originally planned???

 

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Posted by philnrunt on Tuesday, December 4, 2007 10:16 PM
First class work, absolutely beautiful!
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Posted by GAPPLEG on Monday, August 21, 2006 10:18 AM
 AntonioFP45 wrote:

Gappleg,

GE?  What a connection you have!

Would it be possible for you to ask your bosses if they have any archived photos of the older GE locomotive prime movers?  If so, can you post them here?

What we have is an on grounds museum, They archive pictures etc of everything relating to GE transportation. I'm sure they have it all.  It's staffed by retiree's but they do charge for copies etc of articles, pictures, etc.

https://www.getransportation.com/general/aboutus/museum.asp

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Posted by AntonioFP45 on Monday, August 21, 2006 7:22 AM

Gappleg,


GE?  What a connection you have!


Would it be possible for you to ask your bosses if they have any archived photos of the older GE locomotive prime movers?  If so, can you post them here?

"I like my Pullman Standards & Budds in Stainless Steel flavors, thank you!"

 


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Posted by GAPPLEG on Friday, August 18, 2006 6:57 AM
 Martin4 wrote:

Did you have detailed pictures ? Or maybe access to the real beast ?

The result looks fantastic. I wish I could build the same !

Martin

Québec City

Actually yes, I work at GE, so when I needed a little guidance on " looks " I wandered over to the assembly building a took a look at the engine. The whole concept was to make a reasonable look alike rather than a true scale model.

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Posted by NS2591 on Thursday, August 17, 2006 2:47 PM
Do These come in N scale yet?
Jay Norfolk Southern Forever!!
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Posted by Martin4 on Thursday, August 17, 2006 2:18 PM

Did you have detailed pictures ? Or maybe access to the real beast ?

The result looks fantastic. I wish I could build the same !

Martin

Québec City

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Posted by SqueakyWheels on Thursday, August 17, 2006 6:46 AM
I always wondered how they could squeeze 16 cylinders into a narrow frame locomotive. What are they banked thirty degrees? And with that, do they use master/articulating rod setups, or separate connecting rods?

Your work is visually stunning. Thanks for sharing with us your fine work.Cool [8D]

Tim _______________________________ Our Father is MY PILOT!!!!
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Posted by AntonioFP45 on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 2:33 PM

Well Gappleg,

We're here to learn  Chef [C=:-)] and you sure now how to cook!

Thanks for the description.  Top of the line workBig Smile [:D]Wink [;)]Cool [8D]Cowboy [C):-)]Captain [4:-)]Thumbs Up [tup]

"I like my Pullman Standards & Budds in Stainless Steel flavors, thank you!"

 


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Posted by GAPPLEG on Wednesday, July 5, 2006 9:38 AM
The large curved tubes are steel water lines, the red caps are like what you see at the hardware store on threaded pipes. Albeit larger ! The other two tubes are air ducts. The canisters at bottom right of the rad cab are in fact oil filters, just inside the rad cab at that point (but not modeled) is the oil cooler. various wire runs conduits etc , actuators for rad louvers. I feel like a tour guide. [:)]
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Posted by AntonioFP45 on Monday, July 3, 2006 9:08 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by GAPPLEG

Yes. its the Radiator Cab from an athearn dash-9. Just had a shell laying around that I had messed up, cut it off and added the details you would see if you had this off an unit.


Good job on the details within the Radiator Wing CabCowboy [C):-)]Thumbs Up [tup] The dark gray tubes look like coolant hoses with red colored hose connections. The shiny cylindrical objects towards the bottom.....are they a type of 2nd stage oil filter?

"I like my Pullman Standards & Budds in Stainless Steel flavors, thank you!"

 


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Posted by 304live on Monday, July 3, 2006 6:36 PM
that looks really good

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 3, 2006 6:14 PM
Very fine looking model. It's things like this that I wish were available commercially as I would like to build a model in eithe HO or O scale of an EMD hood unit right down to the traction motors. There are kits available of planes, ships,armor and automobiles that have that level of detail but no locomotives. What a shame, since I don't think I could do such a project from scratch as you have done.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 3, 2006 6:03 PM
This is great work. Your talent speaks volumes. I wish I was half as good.
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Posted by GAPPLEG on Monday, July 3, 2006 7:52 AM
Yes. its the Radiator Cab from an athearn dash-9. Just had a shell laying around that I had messed up, cut it off and added the details you would see if you had this off an unit.
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Posted by AntonioFP45 on Monday, July 3, 2006 7:44 AM
Gappleg,

Regarding the above photo (beautiful work) is that "Rad Cab" the radiator wing section for a GE U-Boat?

"I like my Pullman Standards & Budds in Stainless Steel flavors, thank you!"

 


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Posted by BigBlueConrail on Thursday, June 29, 2006 8:40 PM
Thats cool, I like the detail of that engine!
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Posted by AntonioFP45 on Thursday, June 29, 2006 4:32 PM
Gappleg,

Wow! That is excellent! That baby there looks like an FDL16 to me.

There is a cool b&w photo in the "Seaboard Coast Line in Florida" book by Bob Warren. It shows a U36B inside of the Uceta Locomotive shop. The hood section between the cab and the radiator is removed and what is revealed is a great view of the 16 cylinder prime mover and all of the attached components.

You can easily do a similar shop scene with an Athearn U-Boat. Power it with a PDT type truck motor so it can move around on its own!

Thanks for showing us your Outstanding work! Smile [:)]Big Smile [:D]Cool [8D]

"I like my Pullman Standards & Budds in Stainless Steel flavors, thank you!"

 


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Posted by GAPPLEG on Friday, June 9, 2006 9:51 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by dirtyd79

Great job. I was thinking you ought to put it on a flat car being shipped off to the railroad's main shop to be put in an awaiting diesel.

If you look at the service shop picture there is an EMD 567 on a flat moving out soon.
Rebuilt Rad Cab on left waiting to be sent to the railroad, 7FDL engine in center.
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Posted by davekelly on Thursday, June 8, 2006 7:27 AM
Fantastic job!!!

If you ain't having fun, you're not doing it right and if you are having fun, don't let anyone tell you you're doing it wrong.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 7, 2006 10:33 PM
Great job. I was thinking you ought to put it on a flat car being shipped off to the railroad's main shop to be put in an awaiting diesel.
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Posted by GAPPLEG on Tuesday, June 6, 2006 7:16 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by AntonioFP45

Gappleg,

BTW: Is this version a modern FDL or the unit from the 1970s thru early 80s?


As a master, I used photos of the later model, hence the cylindercal alternator, On the old ones there were two aux. generators attached to the Alternator/generator.Even this one isn't quite right but I'm frustrated right now after weeks of play with tiny stuff.
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Posted by ericsp on Tuesday, June 6, 2006 12:22 AM
Outstanding job. Judging for all of the detail on it, I can imagine that building it would be a nightmare. Any plans to built one in Z scale?[:D]

"No soup for you!" - Yev Kassem (from Seinfeld)

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Posted by mtrails on Tuesday, June 6, 2006 12:13 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by GAPPLEG

Well I'm done with this project as far as I'm going to take it. Enough is enough. It's been an excercise in ? patience? insanity? There is no way I'm going to make many of these , its a nightmare. But it's going to look good at my GE service shop on the layout.

Questions, comment welcome, before they take me away ha ha.


It looks like an excercise in quality modelmanship to me. Speechless otherwise.

Jeremy
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Posted by AntonioFP45 on Monday, June 5, 2006 11:57 PM
Gappleg,

BTW: Is this version a modern FDL or the unit from the 1970s thru early 80s?

"I like my Pullman Standards & Budds in Stainless Steel flavors, thank you!"

 


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Posted by GAPPLEG on Sunday, June 4, 2006 8:26 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Adelie

Looks great! It should add a "wow" factor to the service facility.

Maybe your next one should be an old Alco, complete with oil leaks?!? Nevermind.


Don't laugh to soon, I recently aquired some great photos of Alco switcher engines, FM engines also, My insanity could take me anywhere. We re-build old Alco engines in Grove city,PA. and San Luis Potosi , Mexico. Service shop photo is somewhere in my
photo bucket : here it is:


GE engine not there yet.
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Posted by Hawkeye251 on Sunday, June 4, 2006 2:36 PM
That's amazing, I can't wait to see some pics of your service shop.
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Posted by TrainFreak409 on Sunday, June 4, 2006 1:56 PM
That is absolutely stunning! How many hours of work was invested into the creation of that piece of art? That's incredible!

And the judges say:

[:)]-10 [:D]-10 [8D]-10 [^]-10

[bow]

Scott - Dispatcher, Norfolk Southern

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