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Probably been asked before... which was the ugliest diesel (by generation)

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Posted by Gandy Dancer on Sunday, August 12, 2007 1:12 PM
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What about this one?  CP 1000
I say utilitarian, not ugly.
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Posted by CPRail modeler on Sunday, August 12, 2007 12:28 PM
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Posted by jesrr on Tuesday, July 24, 2007 10:39 AM
All the tonners get my vote.
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Posted by Newyorkcentralfan on Tuesday, July 24, 2007 1:16 AM
 Gandy Dancer wrote:

 Newyorkcentralfan wrote:
The California Zephyr always used conventional equipment.

This might be a terminology issue with the word conventional, but the CZ used streamlined stainless steel lightweights of new designs specifically for that train.  As far a I know the only car it ever carried that was not from that design set, was a the pass-through PRR sleeper.

The California Zephyr used conventional meaning non articulated individual cars.  What else would the definition of conventional mean?

 Gandy Dancer wrote:
I think Charlie (renegade) is right.  I think that "Zodiac Thriller" means the original articulated  Zephyr (which eventually became the "Pioneer Zephyr") or its east coast mirror copy the "Yankee Flyer".

The Flying Yankee isn't a mirror image of the Pioneer Zephyr. The Yankee has full height cab windows on the power car as well as very different configuration on all the cars.

 

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Posted by fifedog on Thursday, July 19, 2007 8:59 PM
Winchester & Western #120 gets my vote.Dead [xx(]
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Posted by ngartshore350 on Thursday, July 19, 2007 4:25 AM
The New EMD ACE locomotives are just ugly to me! Just no aesthetics, I'm sure they are very functional?!Confused [%-)]
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Posted by Hudson on Wednesday, July 18, 2007 11:37 AM
DL 109 is not the "Centipede". The DL-109 was built by ALCO and had a1a - a1a trucks. The "Centipedes" were locomotives built by Baldwin, Pennsy had a few variations: BP-60 and BH-50.
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Posted by JonathanS on Wednesday, July 18, 2007 6:56 AM
The SD90, SD80 and the new SD70s with the flared radiators and ugly cab.  EMD used to be known for design excellence, now it seems that they just don't care how they look.
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Posted by Cederstrand on Tuesday, July 17, 2007 11:27 PM

I noticed BL2 & U50 mentioned a few times. Sold both models of those and almost-sorta-kinda miss them, at least the U50. However, they did help pay for some nice new steam power.

I could see voting that BQ23-7 into the top 5, no problem. Resembles a long box dropped by a Fed-X driver.

How about the "ugliest paint scheme" on an engine? That can make or break one in the looks department. Cowboy [C):-)] Rob

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Posted by nscaler711 on Tuesday, July 17, 2007 10:49 PM

What is wrong with the P42?

Army National Guard E3
MOS 91B

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Posted by CPRail modeler on Saturday, July 14, 2007 7:17 PM
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Easy for me: the AMTRAK Genesis.

By the way, does anyone in this stream know how to spell?

Sign - Welcome [#welcome],

I have to agree on the Genesis. Before that is the GE U-boats. UGH...(shudders).

BTW Yes we do know how to spell on this forum. We just choose not to. Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 14, 2007 10:11 AM

 

Easy for me: the AMTRAK Genesis.

By the way, does anyone in this stream know how to spell?

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Posted by leonardbrand on Saturday, July 14, 2007 8:44 AM
My apology to your pug, he or she is a beautiful dog, can't say that for the BQ23-7 o yes I forgot and left out a thing made for the GM&O by Ingersoll Rand which looked like somekind of insect
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Posted by Cannoli on Saturday, July 14, 2007 8:05 AM
Your BQ23-7...

Image Copyright Wade H. Massie

My Pug...

I'll stick with the pug. 

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Posted by myred02 on Friday, July 13, 2007 11:43 PM

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Located the one I was refering to. General Defective's  BQ23-7 of which SCL purchased all of.

You mean this thing?

Image Copyright Wade H. Massie

You're right, it does remind me of a pug nose dog! [EDIT] In a good way!

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Posted by coldguy on Friday, July 13, 2007 7:04 PM

10. GE 70-tonner 

9. Foreign diesels 

8. I just don't like any cowled diesels(F7, PA)

7. F40ph

6. GE U-boats

5. Alco RS-1,RS-2,RS-3

4. Fairbanks-Morse

3. High-nosed GPs and SDs 

2. I'd never seen a BL2 before, but damn its Ugly!

1. Railpower Green Goats

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Posted by leonardbrand on Friday, July 13, 2007 4:08 PM
Located the one I was refering to. General Defective's  BQ23-7 of which SCL purchased all of.
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Posted by Gandy Dancer on Friday, July 13, 2007 12:54 PM
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 it even made the Edsel car look good.
Most of the cars on the road today do that!
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Posted by leonardbrand on Friday, July 13, 2007 12:35 PM

Back longer than I care to remember the CSX had some diesels (6) I thank that were so ulgy the crews wouldn't even ride in them, and always made them be second engine so they woiuld not have to. I have forgotten who made the real engines nor who made a model. some where stored away I have a model of one and the front looks like a pug nose dog,and that still is the uglist diesel ever made, it even made the Edsel car look good. Maybe someone will  remember it. 

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Posted by Gandy Dancer on Friday, July 13, 2007 10:43 AM

 Newyorkcentralfan wrote:
The California Zephyr always used conventional equipment.
This might be a terminology issue with the word conventional, but the CZ used streamlined stainless steel lightweights of new designs specifically for that train.  As far a I know the only car it ever carried that was not from that design set, was a the pass-through PRR sleeper.

I think Charlie (renegade) is right.  I think that "Zodiac Thriller" means the original articulated  Zephyr (which eventually became the "Pioneer Zephyr") or its east coast mirror copy the "Yankee Flyer".

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Posted by Dayliner on Friday, July 13, 2007 10:32 AM
There's no such thing as an ugly dieselSmile,Wink, & Grin [swg], some just have more, er, "character" than others.  And I'll admit that the CF7 and CP's rebuilt RS3s have "character" to spare.
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Posted by Train 284 on Friday, July 13, 2007 10:22 AM
The GE U boats I hate. But unlike a lot of people here, I really do like the BL-2.   Tongue [:P]
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Posted by Dave-the-Train on Friday, July 13, 2007 9:47 AM

 snagletooth wrote:
 gentlegiant wrote:
I love diesels but the DL-109 gets my vote for it's hideous looks.
It's called the"Centeped"AND GOD is it uly!! It's the only distuging thing called after a nasty bug!! Any questions???? Next thing after that is the Kruasse -Maffet's!!

QUESTION:-

Aren't you mixing up the Alco 6 Axle streamline beast (that P1K make a model of) with the Baldwin previously mentioned in this thread? 

Does anyone make a model of the Baldwins?

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Posted by snagletooth on Friday, July 13, 2007 8:12 AM
 gentlegiant wrote:
I love diesels but the DL-109 gets my vote for it's hideous looks.
It's called the"Centeped"AND GOD is it uly!! It's the only distuging thing called after a nasty bug!! Any questions???? Next thing after that is the Kruasse -Maffet's!!
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 13, 2007 7:24 AM
I love diesels but the DL-109 gets my vote for it's hideous looks.
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Posted by ddgmaker on Friday, July 13, 2007 5:00 AM
Ingalls Shipyard made 1 engine, Gulf Mobile&Ohio ended up with it,,by far the MOST ugly...
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Posted by nscaler711 on Friday, July 13, 2007 12:05 AM

I have to agree with some of you but i think the P42 is just to Beautiful to be owned by Amtrak.

Um lets see how bout DD35's all Booster units most GE locomotives

All RS units and all European locos.

Lee i agree with the Cat thing. but i like EMDs locos best especially Modern ones (no SD60M with third window )

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Posted by wm3798 on Thursday, July 12, 2007 11:01 PM

I think the BL-2 is a thing of timeless beauty!!

Especially since you can still go see one working in revenue service...

BL-2 Video 

My vote goes to those modern Big Boxes that are virtually indistinguishable from each other.  For second generation, I'll vote for anything with a cat painted on it.  Horrible, absolutely horrible.

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Posted by Grand Trunk Railway on Thursday, July 12, 2007 10:13 PM

RS-1 were ugly. Those Rio Grande /Southern Pacific Krauss-Maffei German locomotives and for 3rd-Gen. hands down-GE AC4400CW and all versions are just horrible.(really anything by GE!).

Ian

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