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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, September 14, 2003 11:02 PM
To me what works is little sleep!! I work fourty plus hours a week like so many of you...run some auctions on the bay...practice the drums...in an apartment no less !!! and still find at least 30 minutes a day or so to work on my layout...Oh and I forgot to mention my gilrfriend...she takes up a lot of my time too. I figured that it just boils down to good time management. But who realy sticks to it!!!
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, September 14, 2003 11:02 PM
To me what works is little sleep!! I work fourty plus hours a week like so many of you...run some auctions on the bay...practice the drums...in an apartment no less !!! and still find at least 30 minutes a day or so to work on my layout...Oh and I forgot to mention my gilrfriend...she takes up a lot of my time too. I figured that it just boils down to good time management. But who realy sticks to it!!!
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, September 14, 2003 8:48 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by ho.modeler

Surprised at the results? The time distortion is because your layout is under the influence of a “fast clock”!


I'm surprised there were so many responses before someone responded with the real reason. Fast Clock. It hit me right away. It is not just for operating sessions any more. I like your idea of starting on Friday & working right thru to Tuesday. Monday is a yucky day in the real world anyhow. I'm fortunate that all my days are weekends now that I'm retired. Eat your heart out! The fast clock still runs not only when working on a layout but doing the RR thing on the web.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, September 14, 2003 8:48 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by ho.modeler

Surprised at the results? The time distortion is because your layout is under the influence of a “fast clock”!


I'm surprised there were so many responses before someone responded with the real reason. Fast Clock. It hit me right away. It is not just for operating sessions any more. I like your idea of starting on Friday & working right thru to Tuesday. Monday is a yucky day in the real world anyhow. I'm fortunate that all my days are weekends now that I'm retired. Eat your heart out! The fast clock still runs not only when working on a layout but doing the RR thing on the web.
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Posted by BRAKIE on Saturday, September 13, 2003 8:51 PM
Well,I don't have that problem.You see once I get strated on a project I stay with it till its finish...The best way to save time and finish a project is not to make mistakes..Plan your work and work your plan..You see by doing that you will make no mistakes and get things done..

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Posted by BRAKIE on Saturday, September 13, 2003 8:51 PM
Well,I don't have that problem.You see once I get strated on a project I stay with it till its finish...The best way to save time and finish a project is not to make mistakes..Plan your work and work your plan..You see by doing that you will make no mistakes and get things done..

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, September 13, 2003 7:38 PM
Hmmmmm, the old twenty minute rule trick, I believe that Shakespeare put it very appropriately. "As the Queen herself once said, anything worth doing in twenty minutes, can always be drug out for at least 2-3 hours, pass me another beer and my lufa".[:D][:D][:D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, September 13, 2003 7:38 PM
Hmmmmm, the old twenty minute rule trick, I believe that Shakespeare put it very appropriately. "As the Queen herself once said, anything worth doing in twenty minutes, can always be drug out for at least 2-3 hours, pass me another beer and my lufa".[:D][:D][:D]
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Posted by dknelson on Friday, September 12, 2003 4:52 PM
The 20 minute rule is close cousin to a rule the humorist Robert Benchley wrote about more than fifty years ago. As he phrased it "anybody can do any amount of work, provided it is not the work they are supposed to be doing at that moment."
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Posted by dknelson on Friday, September 12, 2003 4:52 PM
The 20 minute rule is close cousin to a rule the humorist Robert Benchley wrote about more than fifty years ago. As he phrased it "anybody can do any amount of work, provided it is not the work they are supposed to be doing at that moment."
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 12, 2003 3:58 PM
I put in two weeks work on the electrics, 4 hours a night, and to all intents and purposes, it looked like I'd done 'bugger all'

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 12, 2003 3:58 PM
I put in two weeks work on the electrics, 4 hours a night, and to all intents and purposes, it looked like I'd done 'bugger all'

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 12, 2003 1:06 PM
Now you all know how your boss feels after you work for him all day. Remember that at raise time.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 12, 2003 1:06 PM
Now you all know how your boss feels after you work for him all day. Remember that at raise time.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 12, 2003 1:00 PM
I am new to model RR but have already experienced this phenomenon first hand.

I spent about 6 hours this past week building my first return loop. Monday - Cut the sub-roadbed, installed it and sanded it smooth. Tuesday - Laid the roadbed (cork) and sanded it smooth. Wednesday - I laid the turnout and flextrack. My daughter and son-in-law came by the house last night (Thursday) and I showed them the new addition to my layout. After looking at it for a few moments she said... "So daddy this must of only taken about 30-40 minutes, right?" [:(]

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 12, 2003 1:00 PM
I am new to model RR but have already experienced this phenomenon first hand.

I spent about 6 hours this past week building my first return loop. Monday - Cut the sub-roadbed, installed it and sanded it smooth. Tuesday - Laid the roadbed (cork) and sanded it smooth. Wednesday - I laid the turnout and flextrack. My daughter and son-in-law came by the house last night (Thursday) and I showed them the new addition to my layout. After looking at it for a few moments she said... "So daddy this must of only taken about 30-40 minutes, right?" [:(]

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 12, 2003 12:22 PM
There is the rule that there is an inverse relationship to tool importance and ease of finding it. The more important the tool for the job, the harder it is to find.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 12, 2003 12:22 PM
There is the rule that there is an inverse relationship to tool importance and ease of finding it. The more important the tool for the job, the harder it is to find.
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Posted by cacole on Friday, September 12, 2003 10:10 AM
Been there, done that! I usually spend at least 20 minutes staring at the layout and trying to remember what I did the last time I worked on it that needs to be completed, or wondering what to do next. By the time I have that figured out, it's time to quit. Another rule of thumb that I have noticed is the following: A project that should require a simple tool such as a screwdriver to accomplish, will wind up requiring 20 or more tools. By the time the project is finished, my tool box is empty and all the tools are scattered around the project area. Have others experienced this rule, too?
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Posted by cacole on Friday, September 12, 2003 10:10 AM
Been there, done that! I usually spend at least 20 minutes staring at the layout and trying to remember what I did the last time I worked on it that needs to be completed, or wondering what to do next. By the time I have that figured out, it's time to quit. Another rule of thumb that I have noticed is the following: A project that should require a simple tool such as a screwdriver to accomplish, will wind up requiring 20 or more tools. By the time the project is finished, my tool box is empty and all the tools are scattered around the project area. Have others experienced this rule, too?
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 12, 2003 9:15 AM
Well the answer is in time distortion and something that Einstein did cover in one of those relativity thingies he worked on.
[8)]

To test this, check the clock in your kitchen or wherever you have a “standard non influenced timepiece”. Then write down the time. Go to your layout and then work the seemingly normal time you do. Get back to the location of your standard non influenced time piece and check the time again.

Surprised at the results? The time distortion is because your layout is under the influence of a “fast clock”!

To correct this, ignore the non influenced timepiece, get down to your layout some Friday night and then work to your heart’s content. Before you know it, it will be Tuesday and you not only accomplished weeks of work, according to the time dilation in the layout area, but missed the dreaded Monday at work as well!
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 12, 2003 9:15 AM
Well the answer is in time distortion and something that Einstein did cover in one of those relativity thingies he worked on.
[8)]

To test this, check the clock in your kitchen or wherever you have a “standard non influenced timepiece”. Then write down the time. Go to your layout and then work the seemingly normal time you do. Get back to the location of your standard non influenced time piece and check the time again.

Surprised at the results? The time distortion is because your layout is under the influence of a “fast clock”!

To correct this, ignore the non influenced timepiece, get down to your layout some Friday night and then work to your heart’s content. Before you know it, it will be Tuesday and you not only accomplished weeks of work, according to the time dilation in the layout area, but missed the dreaded Monday at work as well!
[:D]
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Posted by CP5415 on Monday, August 11, 2003 9:12 AM
It's worked for me. I live close to work so I'm able to come home for lunch.
15 minutes a day allowed me to fini***he wood work & the main line.
I set my mind on what I wanted to accomplish & made it happen.
A good reason why it worked for me was the Wife was at work.

Just my 2 cents

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Posted by CP5415 on Monday, August 11, 2003 9:12 AM
It's worked for me. I live close to work so I'm able to come home for lunch.
15 minutes a day allowed me to fini***he wood work & the main line.
I set my mind on what I wanted to accomplish & made it happen.
A good reason why it worked for me was the Wife was at work.

Just my 2 cents

Gordon

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Posted by krump on Friday, August 8, 2003 2:34 AM
that's a good rule ... and besides hindsight is 20/20.
cheers

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Posted by krump on Friday, August 8, 2003 2:34 AM
that's a good rule ... and besides hindsight is 20/20.
cheers

cheers, krump

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 7, 2003 10:02 PM
I think it boils down to relativity, When I'm using skills I am comfortable with 2-5 hrs. goes quickly. When, for example I am sodering and accidently soder myself second's are eternity (Its only happened a few times but still). I was told by some friends after completing a section of my 1st layout, that "you are your own worst judge" after saying it was horrible ( it was the last section I ripped up to build my 2nd layout.). So just take a look at your standards and see if that is truly what you intended and have others judge it to balance your oppinion.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 7, 2003 10:02 PM
I think it boils down to relativity, When I'm using skills I am comfortable with 2-5 hrs. goes quickly. When, for example I am sodering and accidently soder myself second's are eternity (Its only happened a few times but still). I was told by some friends after completing a section of my 1st layout, that "you are your own worst judge" after saying it was horrible ( it was the last section I ripped up to build my 2nd layout.). So just take a look at your standards and see if that is truly what you intended and have others judge it to balance your oppinion.
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Posted by vsmith on Thursday, August 7, 2003 9:25 AM
20 minutes is all I have a day to work on mine!

Actually 20mins to 1 hour but its still not a lot of time. I look at it this if I do 20-30 minutes a day that adds to 6 1/2 hrs a week! I get a little part or bit done per day and while it might seem miniscule it really dose have a cumulative effect, one day you realize "hey, my benchwork is done" or "that track section is finished" it all adds up, even 10 minutes a day has more effect than no minutes. Its called Patience, one of the things this hobby has taught me.

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