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Boxcab Electrics in HO

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 6, 2003 8:49 PM
Ok folks, I know a lot of people out there model the transition era, sooooo, we need to find out who might be willing to put in cantenary and buy Boxcabs if someone produced them. Any takers[:)][:)][?]
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 6, 2003 8:49 PM
Ok folks, I know a lot of people out there model the transition era, sooooo, we need to find out who might be willing to put in cantenary and buy Boxcabs if someone produced them. Any takers[:)][:)][?]
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Posted by emdgp92 on Thursday, August 7, 2003 11:04 AM
Didn't Model Die Casting have a boxcab in their line?
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Posted by emdgp92 on Thursday, August 7, 2003 11:04 AM
Didn't Model Die Casting have a boxcab in their line?
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 7, 2003 8:01 PM
Ya, but I mean big mainline power.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 7, 2003 8:01 PM
Ya, but I mean big mainline power.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 7, 2003 10:39 PM
just think about those Virginian jackshafts! Or how 'bout Milwalkee boxcabs...streamlined! or Butte Anaconda & Pacific? hmm, New york central?
oh! and those Great Northern units!! well, they were more of a cab locomotive. there are many interesting box cabs...and only a few old Suydam models to choose from!
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 7, 2003 10:39 PM
just think about those Virginian jackshafts! Or how 'bout Milwalkee boxcabs...streamlined! or Butte Anaconda & Pacific? hmm, New york central?
oh! and those Great Northern units!! well, they were more of a cab locomotive. there are many interesting box cabs...and only a few old Suydam models to choose from!
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 8, 2003 1:09 AM
Yeah, I'd like a few P5a's, both boxcabs and modifieds (streamlined, they looked like short, frankensteinish GG1s)[8D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 8, 2003 1:09 AM
Yeah, I'd like a few P5a's, both boxcabs and modifieds (streamlined, they looked like short, frankensteinish GG1s)[8D]
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Posted by ndbprr on Friday, August 8, 2003 1:52 PM
Pennsy modelers would love any of the motors. Probably in order of most frequently mentioned - P5a, B1, O1, L1, DD2. The nice thing with all but the DD2 is the cab ends are all alike. If the bodies were modular and the sides were injected as separate pieces any of the above could be assembled. Running gear is another story
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Posted by ndbprr on Friday, August 8, 2003 1:52 PM
Pennsy modelers would love any of the motors. Probably in order of most frequently mentioned - P5a, B1, O1, L1, DD2. The nice thing with all but the DD2 is the cab ends are all alike. If the bodies were modular and the sides were injected as separate pieces any of the above could be assembled. Running gear is another story
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 8, 2003 9:12 PM
I too would like to see a PRR P5a and a mabe a Modified version. Maybe a couple of New Haven boxcabs. But we also need a good source for cantenary accessories. Poles, signal bridges and maybe a jig to help solder the catenary wires together.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 8, 2003 9:12 PM
I too would like to see a PRR P5a and a mabe a Modified version. Maybe a couple of New Haven boxcabs. But we also need a good source for cantenary accessories. Poles, signal bridges and maybe a jig to help solder the catenary wires together.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 10, 2003 6:42 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by trainbrain17

I too would like to see a PRR P5a and a mabe a Modified version. Maybe a couple of New Haven boxcabs. But we also need a good source for cantenary accessories. Poles, signal bridges and maybe a jig to help solder the catenary wires together.
Ya, I know what you mean, but you know, all it takes is a pebble to start a tital wave, I mean really, who would have thought 3 or 4 years ago, that we would now have a purty desent model of ALCO'S DL-109. It seems that once one part of something comes out, the rest just seems to follow. We already have an E44, so whats next? Cmon troops, let your voice be heard, we own this hobby, not the manufactures and they're just waiting to hear from us as to what we want and how many are willing to plunk down a few bucks to have one of something.[:p][:p][:p][:p][:D][:D][:D][:D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 10, 2003 6:42 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by trainbrain17

I too would like to see a PRR P5a and a mabe a Modified version. Maybe a couple of New Haven boxcabs. But we also need a good source for cantenary accessories. Poles, signal bridges and maybe a jig to help solder the catenary wires together.
Ya, I know what you mean, but you know, all it takes is a pebble to start a tital wave, I mean really, who would have thought 3 or 4 years ago, that we would now have a purty desent model of ALCO'S DL-109. It seems that once one part of something comes out, the rest just seems to follow. We already have an E44, so whats next? Cmon troops, let your voice be heard, we own this hobby, not the manufactures and they're just waiting to hear from us as to what we want and how many are willing to plunk down a few bucks to have one of something.[:p][:p][:p][:p][:D][:D][:D][:D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 11, 2003 9:45 AM
How about some of the little Westinghouse industrial locomotives? They were in MR a wee while ago. The cantery is a more like traction wire so simpler and easier to put up. Their size is ideally suited to sharp more curves.

They're not as exciting as some of the mainline monsters but I'd buy one.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 11, 2003 9:45 AM
How about some of the little Westinghouse industrial locomotives? They were in MR a wee while ago. The cantery is a more like traction wire so simpler and easier to put up. Their size is ideally suited to sharp more curves.

They're not as exciting as some of the mainline monsters but I'd buy one.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 16, 2003 9:02 PM
You mean to tell me there ain't no more interest in boxcabs, electric or diesel than this!!!!! Thats shameful, com-on get in here and let the manufactures know what we want.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 16, 2003 9:02 PM
You mean to tell me there ain't no more interest in boxcabs, electric or diesel than this!!!!! Thats shameful, com-on get in here and let the manufactures know what we want.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, December 12, 2003 1:24 AM
how many of you , go to the PRR discussion page , we are trying to see HOW many people , will be interested in a plastic model in HO of a p5 + e-44
we are trying bachmann , by flooding their e-mail , with requests

E-MAIL them with your request

as far as catenary , try model memories , they make 2,4,+ by custom order a 6 track ( K ) style catenary bridge

also trying to get a prr electric area signal bridge make , but , believe it or not , we need , the drawings

go to PRR t+hs , web then go to discussion page , IT'S FREE AS IS OR REGISTER , IT'S STILL FREE ( EZBOARD )
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, December 12, 2003 1:24 AM
how many of you , go to the PRR discussion page , we are trying to see HOW many people , will be interested in a plastic model in HO of a p5 + e-44
we are trying bachmann , by flooding their e-mail , with requests

E-MAIL them with your request

as far as catenary , try model memories , they make 2,4,+ by custom order a 6 track ( K ) style catenary bridge

also trying to get a prr electric area signal bridge make , but , believe it or not , we need , the drawings

go to PRR t+hs , web then go to discussion page , IT'S FREE AS IS OR REGISTER , IT'S STILL FREE ( EZBOARD )
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Posted by Jetrock on Friday, December 12, 2003 5:11 AM
I'd love to see some relatively inexpensive models of Western boxcabs or steeplecab electrics--the only thing I've seen on store shelves are those horrendously expensive brass ones. There is, I think, *one* kit out there--the Cannonball GE steeplecab--and it is soon going to be out of production. Supposedly they're getting ready to release a Baldwin-Westinghouse brass kit for under $100 (that will make use of the powered trucks from a Bachmann 70-tonner) but that's about it.

I model a west-coast electric line, and if I want to avoid paying for brass I pretty much have to scratchbuild or kitba***o get what I want in electric box motors. I have a couple of projects sketched out, and now it's just a matter of gathering the right parts: the Roundhouse diesel boxcab will become the basis for a Baldwin-Westinghouse electric owned by Central California Traction (it was converted from steeplecab to boxcab after an accident damaged the body) and I'm hacking a pair of clerestory-window combines in half to make a box motor of similar design also owned by CCT.

One research project I have yet to embark on: get a copy of the Diesel Spotter's Guide so I can find out which diesels had similar proportions to the box motors I'm trying to model, and then find semi-appropriate diesel models to strip the body from and re-construct as boxcab electrics. The Bachmann 44/70 tonner power trucks are nice, but they're only suitable for the smaller electrics, and since the prototypes I model owned 44 and 70 ton diesels, the ones I have will be needed in their current form!

I think some European manufacturer makes catenary and poles--I haven't done too much research on catenary since it was only used on the high-speed mainline areas of the line I model, and my layout is an industrial belt line which used simpler and easier-to-maintain (for me as well as the prototype) trolley wire.
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Posted by Jetrock on Friday, December 12, 2003 5:11 AM
I'd love to see some relatively inexpensive models of Western boxcabs or steeplecab electrics--the only thing I've seen on store shelves are those horrendously expensive brass ones. There is, I think, *one* kit out there--the Cannonball GE steeplecab--and it is soon going to be out of production. Supposedly they're getting ready to release a Baldwin-Westinghouse brass kit for under $100 (that will make use of the powered trucks from a Bachmann 70-tonner) but that's about it.

I model a west-coast electric line, and if I want to avoid paying for brass I pretty much have to scratchbuild or kitba***o get what I want in electric box motors. I have a couple of projects sketched out, and now it's just a matter of gathering the right parts: the Roundhouse diesel boxcab will become the basis for a Baldwin-Westinghouse electric owned by Central California Traction (it was converted from steeplecab to boxcab after an accident damaged the body) and I'm hacking a pair of clerestory-window combines in half to make a box motor of similar design also owned by CCT.

One research project I have yet to embark on: get a copy of the Diesel Spotter's Guide so I can find out which diesels had similar proportions to the box motors I'm trying to model, and then find semi-appropriate diesel models to strip the body from and re-construct as boxcab electrics. The Bachmann 44/70 tonner power trucks are nice, but they're only suitable for the smaller electrics, and since the prototypes I model owned 44 and 70 ton diesels, the ones I have will be needed in their current form!

I think some European manufacturer makes catenary and poles--I haven't done too much research on catenary since it was only used on the high-speed mainline areas of the line I model, and my layout is an industrial belt line which used simpler and easier-to-maintain (for me as well as the prototype) trolley wire.
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Posted by Jetrock on Friday, December 12, 2003 7:10 AM
If anyone is really eager to buy some catenary stuff, here's a current post on ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3163276359&category=484
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Posted by Jetrock on Friday, December 12, 2003 7:10 AM
If anyone is really eager to buy some catenary stuff, here's a current post on ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3163276359&category=484
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Posted by dknelson on Friday, December 12, 2003 7:57 AM
The Model Die Casting boxcab is an early diesel not an electric although it resembles some early electrics. Do not overlook some of the non-USA models some of which look as though they could be modified to resemble American box cab electrics. I am thinking particularly of some Japanese prototypes but also some European -- especially some with side rods that resemble the more odd ball Pennsy prototypes.
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Posted by dknelson on Friday, December 12, 2003 7:57 AM
The Model Die Casting boxcab is an early diesel not an electric although it resembles some early electrics. Do not overlook some of the non-USA models some of which look as though they could be modified to resemble American box cab electrics. I am thinking particularly of some Japanese prototypes but also some European -- especially some with side rods that resemble the more odd ball Pennsy prototypes.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, December 12, 2003 8:27 AM
If you want a real 'boxcab' then go to

http://www.roco.com/r63528.html

Built in 1924, retired in the 60s approximately 4000-500hp (the swiss measured it in kW, very civilised).

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, December 12, 2003 8:27 AM
If you want a real 'boxcab' then go to

http://www.roco.com/r63528.html

Built in 1924, retired in the 60s approximately 4000-500hp (the swiss measured it in kW, very civilised).

Neil

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