2-8-8-8-2

[hdtvnut]

[img][dh3:Triplex.jpg]

If no pic, either this browser won't do it, or I havn't figured out
how, sorry.

Hal

[hdtvnut]

One more try:



Hal

[hdtvnut]

[img]dh3:Triplex.jpg

Here's the pic, I hope.

Hal

[waltersrails]

thanks again for the replys.

[hdtvnut]

Jim, I'll try to do photo soon.

Hal

[8D]

[TrainFreak409]

QUOTE: Originally posted by andrechapelon

QUOTE: Originally posted by waltersrails

Does any know if any company makes this engine. I saw it in my train book and thought of getting one.

1. What company if any mo=akes this engine?

2. What company or companys had this engine?

Erie Railroad had 3, built in 1913.

MTH made a 3 rail O gauge model http://www.toytrains1.com/triplex.htm

I believe an HO scale brass model was made in the 70's or 80's, but don't remember the manufacturer.

Andre

MTH has actually made three sets of Triplexii if I remember correctly.

The first set they did was a Premier O scale 2-8-8-8-2, in Erie.

The next set was a Railking "Imperial Series" semi-scaled 2-8-8-8-2, in Erie.

And the most recent set is an expansion of the Railking line, with 2-8-8-8-2s available in four schemes. If I remember correctly; Erie, Virginian, B & O, and Great Northern.

[tomikawaTT]

I remember seeing one of the first brass models on a US prototype club railroad in Japan in the early '60's.

Like its prototype, it didn't run very well.

If they are still available on E-bay, the models have lasted a lot longer than the prototypes, which went from erecting floor to storage in ten years or so, then to scrap in less than twenty.

[mersenne6]

Back around 1978 one of the O gauge brass importers offered the Virginian 2-8-8-8-4 and later an O gauge model of the rebuilt 2-8-8-0.

[waltersrails]

well guys thanks for the replys. i'll be on the look out for one.

[JBCA]

Hal,

"The one I found was in poor shape, and has been thoroughly refurbed and painted."

Any chance of posting a photo or 2?

Jim

[jondrd]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Isambard

QUOTE: Originally posted by jondrd

QUOTE: Originally posted by Virginian

I wonder if the concept might have worked better with a VGN Blue Ridge/C&O Allegheny sized boiler to supply all that steam. Interesting concept. Also interesting is that the VGN 2-10-10-2's were successful drag locos for many years and were way up there in tractive effort.
Virginian - the small railroad that could... and did. :-)

2-10-10-2's !!! [wow] Have to research that one. Any book references?

Jon

Googling "Virginian 2-10-10-2" will get you some very interesting references.

[:)]

Isambard,

Duh, at my end. Must have been too early in A.M. [|)] for brain engagement. Guess I'm still used to reading from clay tablets; eventually I'll dial in to yesterday's technology. Haven't a prayer with todays' technology. Last minute's technology? Forget about it! [:D]

Thanks for wake up call. [tup]

Jon

[Isambard]

QUOTE: Originally posted by nfmisso

QUOTE: Originally posted by Isambard


Two 2-8-8-8-4's were built for the Virginian by Baldwin in 1916/1917. They were not successful and were rebuilt as 2-8-8-0's, then surviving until 1953.

There was only one VGN 2-8-8-8-4, and it was rebuilt into a 2-8-8-0 (later 2-8-8-2) and a 2-8-2.

The VGN triplex had 57" drivers, where as the Erie's had 63" drivers.

The VGN was smart enough to try only one, instead of jumping in with three as the Erie did. The also go Baldwin to do the rebuilding, as they were dissatisfied with the Triplex.

Thanks for the correction. On reading George Drury on Steam Loco's again I see that the running gear from the 2-8-8-8-4's tender was used for the 2-8-2.
[:)]

[Isambard]

QUOTE: Originally posted by jondrd

QUOTE: Originally posted by Virginian

I wonder if the concept might have worked better with a VGN Blue Ridge/C&O Allegheny sized boiler to supply all that steam. Interesting concept. Also interesting is that the VGN 2-10-10-2's were successful drag locos for many years and were way up there in tractive effort.
Virginian - the small railroad that could... and did. :-)

2-10-10-2's !!! [wow] Have to research that one. Any book references?

Jon

Googling "Virginian 2-10-10-2" will get you some very interesting references.

[:)]

[jondrd]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Virginian

I wonder if the concept might have worked better with a VGN Blue Ridge/C&O Allegheny sized boiler to supply all that steam. Interesting concept. Also interesting is that the VGN 2-10-10-2's were successful drag locos for many years and were way up there in tractive effort.
Virginian - the small railroad that could... and did. :-)

2-10-10-2's !!! [wow] Have to research that one. Any book references?

Jon

[Virginian]

I wonder if the concept might have worked better with a VGN Blue Ridge/C&O Allegheny sized boiler to supply all that steam. Interesting concept. Also interesting is that the VGN 2-10-10-2's were successful drag locos for many years and were way up there in tractive effort.
Virginian - the small railroad that could... and did. :-)

[hdtvnut]

Forgot; those are the Eries. Sam and WMC made Virginian 2-8-8-8-4
versions. The WMC version in '79 hade three motors.

Hal

[hdtvnut]

According to the Brown Book of Brass, 3rd ed., there have been two HO
brass manufacturers, Samhongsa and LMB.

Sam made 200 in '80 and 150 in '85. These are shown as $1100 and
$1350 in mint condition.

I have a '61 LMB, 100 made, shown as $530 mint. Later LMB's in '69
and '71 had a different motor arrangement and listed a little higher.

That was 1994. Since there are not a lot of these around, I guess
the current price varies a lot with condition and availability. The
one I found was in poor shape, and has been thoroughly refurbed and
painted.

Hal

[Darth Santa Fe]

I wish I could get one of those in plastic in HO. And it would have to be able to take a 22" curve. And it would have to be well detailed. And it would have to have all three sets of drivers powered. And it would have to be under $200. And it would have to run well. And...

I wi***he real ones could've worked better, making them more popular. Then maybe there would be a model of one like I just described.[:D]

[nfmisso]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Isambard


Two 2-8-8-8-4's were built for the Virginian by Baldwin in 1916/1917. They were not successful and were rebuilt as 2-8-8-0's, then surviving until 1953.

There was only one VGN 2-8-8-8-4, and it was rebuilt into a 2-8-8-0 (later 2-8-8-2) and a 2-8-2.

The VGN triplex had 57" drivers, where as the Erie's had 63" drivers.

The VGN was smart enough to try only one, instead of jumping in with three as the Erie did. The also go Baldwin to do the rebuilding, as they were dissatisfied with the Triplex.

[tatans]

It looks like Precision made them in brass and what a beauty, one of the better looking steamers out there as odd as it looked, O.K how come none of you cheapskates never put a bid on it? $2600.00 is peanuts, and this would be quite the rarity, does anyone know how many of these particular models were made??

[jrbernier]

They were not scratchbuilt - LMB(IIRC) imported the Erie Triplex in brass, back in the 60's. Ran rather poor as was the case with a lot of older brass....

Jim Bernier

[jsutton316]

QUOTE: Originally posted by 8500HPGASTURBINE

The 2-8-8-8-4 were called Virginian triplex . The 2-8-8-8-2 were Erie Class P-1 locomotives. I have seen several of these on Ebay for good prices, they were all in Brass. I can't remember who makes them. There is one on Ebay right now. I have seen them for 1/2 that price though.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Precision-Scale-HO-Virginian-Triplex-Steam-Locomotive_W0QQitemZ6031946331QQcategoryZ484QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


http://www.toytrains1.com/triplex.htm

WOW!!!!!!!!!!! That's alot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[Isambard]

QUOTE: Originally posted by waltersrails

Does any know if any company makes this engine. I saw it in my train book and thought of getting one.

1. What company if any mo=akes this engine?

2. What company or companys had this engine?

If any Triplexes were built in O or HO gauge they would have been either scratch built or custom built and be very few. It will be interesting if any one comes up with a photo or description of a model.

Three Triplex 2-8-8-2's were built for the Erie by Baldwin, in the 1914/1916 era. Erie used them as pushers until 1927, the last was scrapped in 1933.
Two 2-8-8-8-4's were built for the Virginian by Baldwin in 1916/1917. They were not successful and were rebuilt as 2-8-8-0's, then surviving until 1953.

[andrechapelon]

QUOTE: Originally posted by waltersrails

Does any know if any company makes this engine. I saw it in my train book and thought of getting one.

1. What company if any mo=akes this engine?

2. What company or companys had this engine?

Erie Railroad had 3, built in 1913.

MTH made a 3 rail O gauge model http://www.toytrains1.com/triplex.htm

I believe an HO scale brass model was made in the 70's or 80's, but don't remember the manufacturer.

Andre

[Anonymous]

It was out a few years ago in brass.

[Isambard]

QUOTE: Originally posted by waltersrails

Does any know if any company makes this engine. I saw it in my train book and thought of getting one.

1. What company if any mo=akes this engine?

2. What company or companys had this engine?

[waltersrails]

Does any know if any company makes this engine. I saw it in my train book and thought of getting one.

1. What company if any mo=akes this engine?

2. What company or companys had this engine?