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Okay, kids!...Know what time it is?!? It's "Stupid Questions" time!!

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Posted by Cthetrains on Friday, December 23, 2005 8:24 PM
you know..if they'd just quit abbreviating everything, we'd be able to understand it..but that'd put them out of a job..LoL
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Posted by jondrd on Friday, December 23, 2005 7:31 PM
What's with this MTH/QSI lawsuit? This has been dragging on for years now.
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Posted by howmus on Friday, December 23, 2005 7:15 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by tstage

Concertina?!? We WISH we had a concertina! All we had was a shoe box, a roll of toilet paper, and an awl so we could pretend like we had a player piano...

(Why is this beginning to sound like Monty Python?)

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Posted by tstage on Friday, December 23, 2005 6:35 PM
Concertina?!? We WISH we had a concertina! All we had was a shoe box, a roll of toilet paper, and an awl so we could pretend like we had a player piano...

(Why is this beginning to sound like Monty Python?)

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Posted by Cthetrains on Friday, December 23, 2005 6:32 PM
John, I think they read about them in one of those newfangled sy-fy novels...
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Posted by JohnT14808 on Friday, December 23, 2005 6:26 PM
78s? Piano paper rolls? When did they develope those?? I'm still using my Concertina and something I think is called a harpsicord to play pieces by that guy...what was his name??!?....Mosart? Besthoven? Vagner? I'm into those tunes.......[:D]
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Posted by howmus on Friday, December 23, 2005 10:43 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Jetrock

You kids today with your fancy-shmancy 78 RPM phonograph records! I'm still miffed that I can't get the new Combichrist album on Edison cylinder, OR on player piano roll! Those record-company execs are missing out on a whole segment of the market!


ROFLMAO Right, an I don't need any of that new fangled DCC crap either. Been using DC for 600 years and it always worked just fine. Why they gotta come up with all these stupid new thingys, I don't know.......

(Just trying to bring the topic back to MR.... [}:)][}:)])

BTW I have DCC and wouldn't use anything else now. [8D]

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Posted by tstage on Friday, December 23, 2005 10:03 AM
Cory,

No, I don't want it personally. It was going to be a gift for some hippy friend of mine who just got back from Woodstock. I'm content to stick with Tommy Dorsey and the boys. BUT...if you're going to PAY me to take it off your hands...hmmmmm...throw in a new Proto 2000 NYC 0-8-0 switcher (w/ sound!)...and you gotta deal!!! Seems fair to me. [swg]

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Posted by Cthetrains on Friday, December 23, 2005 9:14 AM
hey, Tom..you want that new Beatles 8-track?..I'll make you a deal..christmas special..I'll PAY you to take it off my hands..LoL
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Posted by Cthetrains on Friday, December 23, 2005 9:10 AM
ok..here's my submission..I just found a bound volume of 1975 Model Railroader magazine..(the year I was born)..there is a ton of info about the Milwaukee Hiawatha..(the train I'm attempting to model)..even an add for a Nickel Plate Products HO scale BRASS J7 Hudson...(the Hiawatha loco)..for only $194...but today, IF you can find one..the same item will cost around $1,100...WHO CAME UP WITH THE WHOLE CONCEPT OF INFLATION???..they should be severely ostracised...and the line forms behind me...LoL


edo..how do we KNOW the question is stupid if it never gets asked?...maybe it doesn't have an answer?..LoL..(anyone seriously into psycho-philo-social-thinking will get that...or maybe it's just those as weird as me)
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Posted by Jetrock on Friday, December 23, 2005 8:20 AM
You kids today with your fancy-shmancy 78 RPM phonograph records! I'm still miffed that I can't get the new Combichrist album on Edison cylinder, OR on player piano roll! Those record-company execs are missing out on a whole segment of the market!
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Posted by tstage on Friday, December 23, 2005 8:16 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by cacole
You guys seem to think you're having trouble finding 8-track tape players or record players that can handle those little silver-colored disks, but I'm having trouble finding a wind-up phonograph that can spin at 78 RPM so I can listen to my record collection. When I go into a music store and tell them I'm looking for a player with a crank on the side so I don't have to plug it into a wall socket, I really get some odd stares.

WHOA! Get with the times, Charles!!! 78s went outta style EONS ago! (10 years...AT LEAST!!) Man! And I thought I wasn't the bees knees. Whoo! Now I'm REALLY embarrassed! [:I]

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Posted by cacole on Friday, December 23, 2005 7:46 AM
I think this is the funniest thread that has been on here in some time. [:D]

You guys seem to think you're having trouble finding 8-track tape players or record players that can handle those little silver-colored disks, but I'm having trouble finding a wind-up phonograph that can spin at 78 RPM so I can listen to my record collection. When I go into a music store and tell them I'm looking for a player with a crank on the side so I don't have to plug it into a wall socket, I really get some odd stares.

Seriously, though, it seems that QSI has become so popular that they can't keep up with the demands of all the companies that want to use their sound system. And whatever happened to the promise of a QSI spinoff company that will be selling their systems for end-user installation?

Now that the SoundTraxx Tsunami has finally been released, a lot of the pressure will no doubt be taken off of QSI -- with good speakers, the Tsunami is just as good, if not better, than QSI because the Tsunami is much more versatile.

Has anyone actually received a locomotive with the LokSound system in it? From what I have been reading about LokSound, you must have a computer, Internet access, and a special hardware interface that costs in the neighborhood of $85 extra just so you can download and program the sounds from the LokSound web site, which is in Germany.

And Digitrax is coming out with a sound system some time next year. They haven't released many details about it, but it does not seem to be anything that is currently available from anyone else.
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Posted by tstage on Friday, December 23, 2005 7:32 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by tigerstripe
I just got back from Peaches they didn't have the Beatles new 8 track. It must be sold out because of Christmas. But I did get the Bee Gees and ABBA but they are on these funny little silver looking records and I can't get them to play??? When I took it back to complain the sales girl looked at me like i was stupid or something. She also kept trying to sell me something called MP3, I dont want a PEZ dispenser, I need an 8 track...She must be new.

Tigerstripe,

She HAS to be new! How embarrassing. [:I]

Everyone knows that it you put enough pennies on the tone arm, that will help the needle to track better on those "funny little silver looking records". Why do they hire unqualified and unknowledgable sales personnel like that these days...[sigh]

Tom

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Posted by Virginian on Friday, December 23, 2005 4:51 AM
Not a dumb question at all IMHO. I don't know why a lot of folks think there is some conspiracy going with BLI/PCM. Is it a conspiracy that GM makes Pontiacs, Buicks, and Chevys (and they even share a lot of components)? They have made no bones about the fact that PCM is basically BLI level stuff with LOK sound decoders rather than QSI. I think it's just a marketing move. Seeing as how people cannot keep straight Life Like plain versus Proto 2000, and Athearn BB vs. RTR vs. Genesis, and Bachmann plain versus Spectrum vs. DCC ready vs. DCC equipped - it may not be a bad move at all.
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Posted by tigerstripe on Thursday, December 22, 2005 11:40 PM
It might be due to BLI being a little "miffed off" at QSI. Did you notice that PCM came out right after the Atlas Trainmaster and Life-Like announced they would release QSI units?
Also there doesn't seem to be any activity / new products from BLI since this summer.

I just got back from Peaches they didn't have the Beatles new 8 track. It must be sold out because of Christmas. But I did get the Bee Gees and ABBA but they are on these funny little silver looking records and I can't get them to play??? When I took it back to complain the sales girl looked at me like i was stupid or something. She also kept trying to sell me something called MP3, I dont want a PEZ dispenser, I need an 8 track...She must be new.
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Posted by tstage on Thursday, December 22, 2005 12:37 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by lil hobo

Ya really a stuiped question would be like my little brother asking if my tapered end passenger car can go the speed of sound because it looks like a bullet train to him.

Uhhhh...you mean it can't??


QUOTE: Originally posted by SpaceMouse

I'm still trying to figure out where the stupid question is. Sounds pretty darned sophisticated to me.

Chip,

I didn't know if I wasn't seeing something obvious or I had just had missed an announcement. Wouldn't be the first time. Well, I'm off to Peaches to find an 8-track recording of the Beatles newest release...

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, December 22, 2005 11:36 AM
Ya really a stuiped question would be like my little brother asking if my tapered end passenger car can go the speed of sound because it looks like a bullet train to him.
I don't get it either space mouse.
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Posted by edo1039 on Thursday, December 22, 2005 11:32 AM
"HOWDY DOODY TIME" as I recall. Question is not stupid only the one that is never asked is.
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Posted by SpaceMouse on Thursday, December 22, 2005 11:21 AM
I'm still trying to figure out where the stupid question is. Sounds pretty darned sophisticated to me.

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Posted by jrbernier on Thursday, December 22, 2005 11:15 AM
Tom,

My take on the BLI/PCM family is that BLI uses QSI sound decoders, and PCM uses the LokSound sound decoders. I suspect that BLI may have either had a delivery issue with QSI, or they were leary of the MTH/QSI lawsuit and wanted an alternate source of sound decoders. The original PCM ads were for the N scale items, but PCM seems to be expanding into other scales. BLI has had delivery issues(not sure if it is QSI decoder delivery or the actual models), and the PCM name may be a 'fresh' start....

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Okay, kids!...Know what time it is?!? It's "Stupid Questions" time!!
Posted by tstage on Thursday, December 22, 2005 10:33 AM
(I LOVE this part of the program...[:P])

Okay, I know that Precision Craft Models (PCM) is a sister company or subsidiary of Broadway Limited Inc. (BLI). At first, I thought that PCM was created to concentrate on the N-scale aspect of BLIs business. I later learned that PCM was going to release (and just did release) the much anticipated Reading T1. (Randy, we're still waiting to hear your review...[:)])

Well, I just got off the PCM website and found out that PCM is going to be releasing a whole slew of new products in HO, as well as N, On3, and On30.

My questions are: Is PCM just BLIs way of expanding or doubling their operation efforts. At first hand glance, it appears that their aren't really any duplications between the two. And, it looks like both companies are also based in FL, as well. Are there any other differences between the two companies that you all are aware of? Maybe that's a question for Ken Silvestri at PCM.

Thanks for the enlightening...

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