QUOTE: Originally posted by twhite QUOTE: Originally posted by NZRMac BUMP!! Tom did you ever change the rear Zephyr light from white to red? Ken. Ken--not yet, I've been afraid to go into it until I heard what your problem turned out like. Since yours is up and running, I'll go into the observation car next week. Tom [:p]
QUOTE: Originally posted by NZRMac BUMP!! Tom did you ever change the rear Zephyr light from white to red? Ken.
Tom View my layout photos! http://s299.photobucket.com/albums/mm310/TWhite-014/Rio%20Grande%20Yuba%20River%20Sub One can NEVER have too many Articulateds!
QUOTE: Originally posted by fishplate If the motor is going to be replaced, would it not be better to replace it with with something other than the factory unit. Just wondering!!!!!
QUOTE: Originally posted by chateauricher Originally posted by NZRMac [ I wonder what your tinkering has done to your warranty... [?][?][?] Just a thought. It's only for 30 days. I would be concerned for the long term. Reply Edit NZRMac Member sinceSeptember 2004 From: Christchurch New Zealand 1,525 posts Posted by NZRMac on Tuesday, August 16, 2005 5:24 AM Nope spoke too soon, new motor please Con-cor!! Ken. Reply NZRMac Member sinceSeptember 2004 From: Christchurch New Zealand 1,525 posts Posted by NZRMac on Tuesday, August 16, 2005 4:44 AM It still looks like it did when it left the factory, If I have more trouble, remove decoder, plug the DCC ready plug back in and presto good as new. Thanks anyway. Reply chateauricher Member sinceNovember 2004 From: Chateau-Richer, QC (CANADA) 833 posts Posted by chateauricher on Tuesday, August 16, 2005 4:39 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by NZRMac [Curiosity got the better of me, I removed the motor and eased one end slightly away from the case of the motor (won't come off cause of the flywheel) I sprayed some contact cleaner in there and let it evaporate. Reassembled motor and tested on 12V dc. after a small splutter it ran fine. Reassembled back into Zephyr and hard wired in a Soundtraxx decoder (all I had on hand ) Back on the track, she's been running flawlessly for an hour I've had a stops and starts and various speed all as good as gold. I hate to be the one to say this; but ... I wonder what your tinkering has done to your warranty... [?][?][?] Just a thought. Timothy The gods must love stupid people; they sure made a lot. The only insanity I suffer from is yours. Some people are so stupid, only surgery can get an idea in their heads. IslandView Railroads On our trains, the service is surpassed only by the view ! Reply NZRMac Member sinceSeptember 2004 From: Christchurch New Zealand 1,525 posts Posted by NZRMac on Tuesday, August 16, 2005 4:04 AM Now this is strange! Curiosity got the better of me, I removed the motor and eased one end slightly away from the case of the motor (won't come off cause of the flywheel) I sprayed some contact cleaner in there and let it evaporate. Reassembled motor and tested on 12V dc. after a small splutter it ran fine. Reassembled back into Zephyr and hard wired in a Soundtraxx decoder (all I had on hand ) Back on the track, she's been running flawlessly for an hour I've had a stops and starts and various speed all as good as gold. So keep your fingers crossed for me!![:D][:D][angel][angel] Ken. Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 16, 2005 3:36 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by cacole but this is the fourth known instance of motors going dead after only a short run if locomotive3's information is correct. Not a good omen. Sorry , the two here on Trains included Cacole's initial report and the third over at the MSI. Reply Edit NZRMac Member sinceSeptember 2004 From: Christchurch New Zealand 1,525 posts Posted by NZRMac on Tuesday, August 16, 2005 2:40 AM Tom, I've had it right to bits!! clipped another 12v dc source to the motor and it did nothing till I spun the shaft, then it ran rougher than a rough thing!![:D][:D] I was just kidding about it being your fault (you knew that) Yours looks fantastic on your layout, hope she continues the great service. Ken. Reply twhite Member sinceJuly 2004 From: Carmichael, CA 8,055 posts Posted by twhite on Tuesday, August 16, 2005 2:01 AM Ken--take a look at the spec sheet and then look at the inside pickups on the trucks. Maybe there's a loose wire or something that's touching intermittently. It MIGHT be a pickup rather than a motor problem. I noticed that those wheel pickups don't have much tolerance at all. Just a thought. Tom PS: MY FAULT? Dang, you mean I'm actually INFLUENCING people, LOL? Tom Tom View my layout photos! http://s299.photobucket.com/albums/mm310/TWhite-014/Rio%20Grande%20Yuba%20River%20Sub One can NEVER have too many Articulateds! Reply NZRMac Member sinceSeptember 2004 From: Christchurch New Zealand 1,525 posts Posted by NZRMac on Tuesday, August 16, 2005 1:31 AM Will do Tom, it's your fault i've got one you know, I just fell in love with the wee girl!! They really do look majestic gliding round the tracks. [swg] the stopping started with a kind of jerking and a buzz and just got worse, she still runs but if ya stop her ya have to spin the drive shaft with the juice on to get her rollin again. NOT HAPPY!!! But if I have to get another motor then I will ( it's a love affair!!! don't tell the Mrs!!)[:D][:D] Ken Reply twhite Member sinceJuly 2004 From: Carmichael, CA 8,055 posts Posted by twhite on Tuesday, August 16, 2005 12:35 AM Oh man, Ken, now you've got me SCARED!! My Zephyr has been gliding around my model railroad for the past two weeks with nary a problem, and now I've heard of four instances where the motors have been quitting. If you get an answer from Con-Cor, please, PLEASE post it, okay? Just in case mine joins the dearly departed, I'll know what to do about it. Tom [:O][:O] Tom View my layout photos! http://s299.photobucket.com/albums/mm310/TWhite-014/Rio%20Grande%20Yuba%20River%20Sub One can NEVER have too many Articulateds! Reply ericsp Member sinceMay 2015 5,134 posts Posted by ericsp on Monday, August 15, 2005 11:47 PM Be sure to tell them to make some undecorated, HO scale reefers. "No soup for you!" - Yev Kassem (from Seinfeld) Reply NZRMac Member sinceSeptember 2004 From: Christchurch New Zealand 1,525 posts Posted by NZRMac on Monday, August 15, 2005 11:23 PM Well thanks fellas, I guess I'll wait and see for a couple of days. Ken. Reply cacole Member sinceJuly 2003 From: Sierra Vista, Arizona 13,757 posts Posted by cacole on Monday, August 15, 2005 10:10 PM Con-Cor's offices are in Tucson, Arizona, in an industrial park. They have only 2 or 3 people working in their office, so don't expect a quick reply to e-mail. A member of our local HO scale club pre-ordered a Zephyr directly from Con-Cor. He had the same problem you have had -- it ran about 15 minutes and then stopped dead. Since we live only 70 miles from Tucson, he took it back to them personally. He had been told on the telephone that they didn't have any more in stock, but when he got there and talked to the owner's wife, she knew where some were stashed away and got a new one for him. He hasn't ran the replacement so we don't know if it has the same problem -- but this is the fourth known instance of motors going dead after only a short run if locomotive3's information is correct. Not a good omen. Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 15, 2005 7:14 PM CC gets over 300 e-mails a day. They don't have the personel to reply. Call Tucson. You already spent big bucks. I believe this is the third failure reported. Two here and one over at the Chgo MSI. Reply Edit ericsp Member sinceMay 2015 5,134 posts Posted by ericsp on Monday, August 15, 2005 7:09 PM The first time I e-mailed them, it took a couple of e-mails to get a reply. However, they have replied the first time every since then. I am guessing that it has something to do with them getting spam. "No soup for you!" - Yev Kassem (from Seinfeld) Reply NZRMac Member sinceSeptember 2004 From: Christchurch New Zealand 1,525 posts Con-cor customer service? Update Posted by NZRMac on Monday, August 15, 2005 6:20 PM The Zephyr arrived yesterday, I was obviously keen to give her a whirl, she's DCC ready so I fired up the older DC power pack and she purred around the track. But it didn't last long!![:(][:0] She has a motor problem as I spin the shaft it goes open circuit in places (armature trouble?) So my question is what's the service like at Con-cor, I've emailed them to let them know I have trouble.[:D] Ken. Reply Subscriber & Member Login Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, manage your account online and more! 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Originally posted by NZRMac [ I wonder what your tinkering has done to your warranty... [?][?][?] Just a thought.
QUOTE: Originally posted by NZRMac [Curiosity got the better of me, I removed the motor and eased one end slightly away from the case of the motor (won't come off cause of the flywheel) I sprayed some contact cleaner in there and let it evaporate. Reassembled motor and tested on 12V dc. after a small splutter it ran fine. Reassembled back into Zephyr and hard wired in a Soundtraxx decoder (all I had on hand ) Back on the track, she's been running flawlessly for an hour I've had a stops and starts and various speed all as good as gold.
QUOTE: Originally posted by cacole but this is the fourth known instance of motors going dead after only a short run if locomotive3's information is correct. Not a good omen.
"No soup for you!" - Yev Kassem (from Seinfeld)