Come On Guys, Give Me A Break!

[Anonymous]

There is way too much trolling, flaming, and just plain disrespecting on here! Lately I've seen way too much "Screw You" and "That's stupid". Come on guys, we're here to learn about the hobby, not to get into a heated argument over everything. Discussion, of course, is not bad, but not a war.

If this gets much worse, I'm outta here. I'm tired of it.


I'll go back to my hole now.

Have a good day,

uspscsx

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by uspscsx

There is way too much trolling, flaming, and just plain disrespecting on here! Lately I've seen way too much "Screw You" and "That's stupid". Come on guys, we're here to lear about the hobby, not to get into a heated argument over everything. Discussion, of course, is not bad, but not a war.

If this gets much worse, I'm outta here. I'm tired of it.


I'll go back to my hole now.

Have a good day,

uspscsx

Wait until end of the month, I think you will see things quite down and get back to model railroading. Not to knock on you, but you can always ignore the posts. I know it can be hard to do, sort of like twisting your neck to see that wreck on the highway. I think we have a majority of decent posts compared to the "troll/flaming/shouting" posts. Don't let a small wave in the lake make you get out, the wind always calms down. We know that in Illinois, just finally getting some rain...

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by dthurman

QUOTE: Originally posted by uspscsx

There is way too much trolling, flaming, and just plain disrespecting on here! Lately I've seen way too much "Screw You" and "That's stupid". Come on guys, we're here to lear about the hobby, not to get into a heated argument over everything. Discussion, of course, is not bad, but not a war.

If this gets much worse, I'm outta here, I'm tired of it.


I'll go back to my hole now.

Have a good day,

uspscsx

Wait until end of the month, I think you will see things quite down and get back to model railroading. Not to knock on you, but you can always ignore the posts. I know it can be hard to do, sort of like twisting your neck to see that wreck on the highway. I think we have a majority of decent posts compared to the "troll/flaming/shouting" posts. Don't let a small wave in the lake make you get out, the wind always calms down. We know that in Illinois, just finally getting some rain...

Good suggestions, yes it is hard to ignore them, especially when they're pointed in a group of people's direction that includes me and some of the guys I've met on here and come to know and respect. Most of it is for no reason, but it gets irritating.

Maybe my topic is a little out of line..

uspscsx

[Anonymous]

I don't know what's going on. I'm selective in what I read. The post has to jump out
and bite me in the butt otherwise I pass.

[Rotorranch]

QUOTE: Originally posted by dthurman Don't let a small wave in the lake make you get out, the wind always calms down. We know that in Illinois, just finally getting some rain...

Hey David...where in central IL are ya?

I'm originally from the IL side of the Big Creek near St L. My great uncle was an engineer for the GM&O. That kinda explains my penchant for The Alton RR stuff I have collected over the years.

Rotor

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Rotorranch

QUOTE: Originally posted by dthurman Don't let a small wave in the lake make you get out, the wind always calms down. We know that in Illinois, just finally getting some rain...

Hey David...where in central IL are ya?

I'm originally from the IL side of the Big Creek near St L. My great uncle was an engineer for the GM&O. That kinda explains my penchant for The Alton RR stuff I have collected over the years.

Rotor

We have that yellow river running threw town [:D], actaully I am in Peoria IL, with the big yellow called Cat. We used to be a big big train meca, but anymore we only have 1 run through RR called the UP, all the others come in to interchange with TZPR, the old P&PU. [:(!]

[AntonioFP45]

uspscsx,

Your comments and feelings are quite understandable. Flames and Trolling occur occasionally, but it's not the norm..........don't be discouraged. Continue to post and enjoy.
There are times when trolls are so silly, that you just have to laugh and move on.[(-D][(-D]

When flaming does get out of hand, it's simple to send Bergie [4:-)] an e-mail at

[e-mail]

As soon as he gets it, he'll check out the topic. If it's inapppropriate or too heated, he'll lock or delete it. Bergie then sends you an e-mail and thank you for your input.

One thing that's good to keep in mind:

There have been times when hot topics have come up, and a couple of forum members will actually help turn it around and transform it into a productive topic! Two guys that have done this before on different topics are JNichols and Big_Boy_4005. They used their heads and made lemonade out of something sour.

Cheers and Peace! [;)]

[Anonymous]

exactly wait til the end of this month, school will be starting again, and the immature members should be going back.

[loathar]

Lately I've seen way too much "Screw You" and "That's stupid"
Where are you seeing this at? I can't remember ever seeing some one make posts like that? I agree that some times people make negative posts when really they should have just not replied.(If you can't say any thing nice...You know...) I try not to get my panties in a bunch if somebody flames me. There's too many nice people with great advise here to let a few bad apples spoil it for me.[2c][^]

[davekelly]

QUOTE: Originally posted by AntonioFP45

uspscsx,

There are times when trolls are so silly, that you just have to laugh and move on.[(-D][(-D]

You got that right![:D][:D]

[TrainFreak409]

QUOTE: Originally posted by JoeyM7899

exactly wait til the end of this month, school will be starting again, and the immature members should be going back.

Ehh, school, don't remind me.[:(] I may not like heat, but I like my summer vacations. And not to burst your bubble or anything (if I do damage its boyancy, I'm sorry.[:p]) but school doesn't last all day. There will be plenty of time for immature members to post immaturely AFTER school. At least it won't be as frequent. (That's what you are refering to, isn't it?)

But yes, there has been quite a bit of flaming, and a lot of it unneccessary. I don't like seeing it, and it makes us look immature.

I've tried to turn some around, but I can't get it to work, so I'm going to leave it to the professionals, like JNichols and Big_Boy_4005. Antonio, I would see you as one of them as well. Where were you guys when my "Questionable eBay Tactics" got out of hand?[:p]

[robengland]

Most of the recent din has been caused by one or two immature teens. They'll either calm down or go away and we can get back to trains...

[howmus]

QUOTE: Originally posted by robengland

Most of the recent din has been caused by one or two immature teens. They'll either calm down or go away and we can get back to trains...

Absolutely! The best way to handle trolls is to not reply to their rants. They will go away on their own when they don't get someone all ticked off. I sometimes pop in to see what makes a thread go on for 7 or 8 pages when it is not on topic, but then I just leave it be and find a more interesting subject and read that thread.......... uspscxs, don't let some trolls drive you away from what is a great forum!

[TrainFreak409]

QUOTE: Originally posted by robengland

Most of the recent din has been caused by one or two immature teens. They'll either calm down or go away and we can get back to trains...

I really hope you aren't referring to my eBay thread.[V] I never meant for that to turn out to be the monster it did.[:(]

[davekelly]

QUOTE: Originally posted by robengland

Most of the recent din has been caused by one or two immature teens. They'll either calm down or go away and we can get back to trains...

While you are correct concerning the most recent problems, there were problems several months ago by someone that definately was not a teen. Hopefully the "one or two immature teens" that have caused recent problems won't be seen as a reflection of the numerable teens that are a very healthy and most welcome (at least by me) part of this forum.

[Anonymous]

I don't know about you guys, but I've been seeing quite a few topics get very off topic from the origonal post. Like that dust bunnies thing in that thread about Lotus_098 being a troll (and we know he's not). Or there's been a lot of "Oh, you live in Sacramento? How close to XX street? I live.....". Personally, I thought that's what that Coffee Shop thread was for. Off Topic chat that people can't see unless they go into that topic.

I'm really starting to get tired of these forums. I think it's time for a break......

Edit: I just found another example of posts getting off topic! I go click on page 4 of the "Thing I Hate About Model Railroading" thread to see what other modelers dislike doing and what do I find? Guys talking about how to get girls! SHEESH![xx(][V]

[Adelie]

uspscsx, you are the third person that I know of to state they have had about "all I can stands, I can't stands no more ." I'm on that list, too. My finger was on the trigger to walk away one night last week. We've lost one member that I know of over this stuff.

Some of it is from the less aged of the group, probably most of it. But, there is also an undercurrent on model railroad topics who approach techniques with "here is the way I do it, it is superior, and if you don't agree, you are an idiot." That is about enough to cause me to reconsider my own techniques if I am using the same technique as they are!

Then one of the many more well-grounded members steps up with something insightful (vs. incite-ful) or something comical and I remember why this forum exists.

[Rotorranch]

QUOTE: Originally posted by 4884bigboy

I don't know about you guys, but I've been seeing quite a few topics get very off topic from the origonal post. Like that dust bunnies thing in that thread about Lotus_098 being a troll (and we know he's not). Or there's been a lot of "Oh, you live in Sacramento? How close to XX street? I live.....". Personally, I thought that's what that Coffee Shop thread was for. Off Topic chat that people can't see unless they go into that topic.

I'm really starting to get tired of these forums. I think it's time for a break......

Thread drift is normal for most any forum that I know of. It's something to be expected, and it's just human nature.

I'll admit, I'm guilty from time to time, although I try to stay to the topic on hand. I've taken several comments to PM, or email, just not to get off topic in the thread.

As far as quitting the forum due to thread drift or some of the off topic subjects that come up.....there is too much good info, fun, and humor here to do that. It's real simple, if you don't like it, don't read it!

On one of the slot car forums I frequent, there is one guy who thinks he has the answer to saving the industry by re-inventing the wheel. I always read what he says, as he usually jumps into the middle of someones thread with his off the wall posts, but I'll seldom reply to it. I might get miffed at him, but most times I just shake my head, laugh knowingly to myself, and grab another beer.

It's all about the fun!

Remember, we are grown folks playing with toy trains! [;)]

Rotor

[Adelie]

Thread drift is not why some of us have thought about bailing out, Rotor. It is when you log on here and feel more like you are in the middle of a day care center or asylum than a hobby forum. I can get that on one of the ESPN forums, if I want it.

And as far as us being grown folks playing with toy trains, I for one resent that. Who said we were grown? That is a state of mind, isn't it?[(-D]

[Rotorranch]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Adelie

And as far as us being grown folks playing with toy trains, I for one resent that. Who said we were grown? That is a state of mind, isn't it?[(-D]

I can agree with that! I may grow old, but I'll NEVER GROW UP!!!! [;)][:)][:D][^]

Heck, I play with toys for a living! [8)]

Rotor

[cheese3]

Things will get better as soon as the immature teens like me get back to school, but whos to say i wont post from school...i did it quite alot last year.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by 4884bigboy

I don't know about you guys, but I've been seeing quite a few topics get very off topic from the origonal post. Like that dust bunnies thing in that thread about Lotus_098 being a troll (and we know he's not).

Well I am your guilty party on the dust bunnies, but you know, the thread was also getting a little heated, sometimes a little diversion is good, relaxing and plain fun. I laughed pretty hard that day.

As for the drifting, what do you call this thread doing. If I go to a train show, I may talk trains, but I may end up meeting someone that had a mutual friend, without moving off topic how do you expect to build a freindship, see what people are about?

Also asking where someone lives, I am again guilty being asked that, I replied, I was always taught it was rude to ignore people.

Everyone needs to lighten up and enjoy everything about this forum. I feel like I am around a great bunch of people willing to share, argue, laugh or what ever. We are all human, not some dictionary about trains and train only topics. Some people out there, this may be their only method of contact with others, be that good or bad.

Okay off to find some interesting topics [}:)]

[Anonymous]

Wow, I've started an uprising. Is this a bad thing?[:D]

Time to move on.

uspscsx

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by cheese3

Things will get better as soon as the immature teens like me get back to school, but whos to say i wont post from school...i did it quite alot last year.

You make good posts, Adam. Don't worry about it. I''m a teacher, so let me be the first to say....get back to your lessons, young man!


mike

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by uspscsx

Wow, I've started an uprising. Is this a bad thing?[:D]

Time to move on.

uspscsx

uspscx

No I think you created some thought provoking discussion. I like the diversions. If you think about not every topic is going to appeal to everyone. I don't do DCC (yet) and so with that I tend to skip those. Same can be said of this thread.

I for one will be glad school starts, I will have the whole house to myself, train videos blarring, railfanning without having to drag the kid when he doesn't want to go anywhere, now that I think about it, it's sort of my summer vacation [:D]

[Anonymous]

from now on im sticking to posts about just plain trains!!!!!!!!!!! No more flamming for me whew!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! to much of that stuff lately

[grandeman]

First of all, Bergie has handled problem threads well.

I've been involved in some heated discussions when I feel things totally inappropriate for this forum are being posted. Some of these posts are intentionally done to advance controversial agendas and cause a stink. I try to be a nice guy online (and in person) but there are some things worth defending. From now on, I'll notify Bergie myself, he's got a good track record... In the past I didn't know how to contact him so I argued the facts myself.

[dtbowyer]

I thought the dust bunnies were great! They provided a necessary diversion from a topic that was about out of hand. I think they should pop up a bit more often!

Slightly more "on-topic": It's not just some teens that have been a bit inciteful - there have been a few oldsters, too. That being said, perhaps all of us should try to be a bit more open-minded and supportive, and a little less irritable and stuffy.

It's all about having fun, and my idea of fun and yours may not be the same. Does that make any of us wrong? If you don't like the topic, find another one to read.

And USPSCSX, why would you (or anyone) "leave" because of a few lousy posts out of the bazillions that are here? You have lots of good things to say!

Most of us like the diversity of ideas, and we shouldn't get down over a few that go south.

Whew, I guess I ponied up at least 6 cents worth here - sorry!

David

[dave9999]

Someone please define "flaming" for me. It seems that anytime someone disagrees
with someone and doesn't sugar-coat it, they are accused of flaming.
Sometimes, people can be a little thin-skinned on forums.
I work in construction and when we disagree, it's pretty ugly[B)]... but, we know how to take it.

I have not seen any real flaming since our old friend Al was on his rampage. I do see
some strong opinions, but that's part of debating an issue.

This topic proves a point. That the word "flaming" gets thrown out there too
easily. Even the topic about Daniel's Ebay account being suspended wasn't full of flaming.
I can see how he might have took it that way, but it was mostly people upset about him
not telling the whole story. I thought it was a little embarassing for him, but it was not
flaming by my definition. And I began to feel real bad for him... not because he was flamed,
but because he's been around and contributes to the forum. And with one topic, it kind of went
south for him.

Us members that have been around awhile have seen some ugly times, but we get past them
and move on. I still feel bad about mine and Dougal's little run in and that was probably two years
ago. That caused a big rukus that went on for days and days, but we all got past it... at least I hope
we did[:)].

We all need to get along because we all have something to say, or else we wouldn't be here. But,
just like anywhere else, it's highly unlikely that everyone will agree on everything. A lot of you are not
going to agree with me on this. But as long as you don't bring my Mama into, I probably won't
take it as being flamed. [;)] Good luck, Dave

Edit: Corrected my incorrect spelling of "flaming"

[Rotorranch]

From Webster: flaming
(adjective) 1 : resembling or suggesting a flame in color, brilliance, or wavy outline <the flaming sunset sky> < flaming red hair>; 2 : being on fire : BLAZING ; 3 : INTENSE , PASSIONATE < flaming youth>; 4 -- used as an intensive <you flaming idiot>


flam
(noun) : a drumbeat of two strokes of which the first is a very quick grace note

Maybe Flamming is like marching to a different drummer?

Rotor