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Posted by JohnT14808 on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:35 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by METRO


Haha, I'm actually designing a subway line for the major city on my layout. Basically it's going to be a loop of track under my layout, hung from the benchwork, with some really nice cut-outs where I'll put in the stations to make them look like they are in the ground. I'm going to kitbash some of the P1K R17 NYC subway cars (anyone have any of these?) and repaint them in a blue & silver scheme that will pay honor to the NYC TA but not look just like them.

There will be three stations one built in the traditional tile wall style used in NYC, Boston, Toronto, London, ect. and the other two will be more modern looking cement structures like those found in Chicago and D.C.

Oh I'm also going to invest in a digital camera at some point this year so I'll even have some pictures to share eventually!

~METRO


Very cool! I was wondering if anyone actually had a subway on the edge of a layout. installed "down under" the layout. Are you going to have the back side of the layout be above ground, so the subway can come out of the tunnel for service and cleaning? sounds like a neat project for a city layout!!

(I did, however, vote for trains....)
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Posted by MisterBeasley on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:20 PM
I've got the Lifelike R17's in the original darker red shade. They're pretty nice right out of the box, and they run very well. I'm still scenicking my subway tunnels and stations. I've also got a Bowser PCC car, as yet unpainted, so I'll have two very different subway cars sharing the tracks. I've got a camera, which will go in front of one of the R17's. It looks like LEDs, placed about every 6-8 inches, will provide interesting lighting for the tunnels. Meanwhile, I'm busily upgrading the couplers on my ancient freight fleet to Kadees.

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Posted by Jetrock on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 10:14 PM
I'm still trying to figure out why interurbans would be categorized as "subways" if they don't run underground--I'm thinking of interurbans like the Sacramento Northern, which had a passenger run of about 180 miles and also handled lots of freight. Subways don't run between metropolitan areas, they don't run freight and they run UNDER THE GROUND.
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Posted by METRO on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 9:16 PM
Alright, this is a hard hard question.

I love trains and subways, period. Don't ask me to choose!

Haha, I'm actually designing a subway line for the major city on my layout. Basically it's going to be a loop of track under my layout, hung from the benchwork, with some really nice cut-outs where I'll put in the stations to make them look like they are in the ground. I'm going to kitbash some of the P1K R17 NYC subway cars (anyone have any of these?) and repaint them in a blue & silver scheme that will pay honor to the NYC TA but not look just like them.

There will be three stations one built in the traditional tile wall style used in NYC, Boston, Toronto, London, ect. and the other two will be more modern looking cement structures like those found in Chicago and D.C.

Oh I'm also going to invest in a digital camera at some point this year so I'll even have some pictures to share eventually!

~METRO
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Posted by dinwitty on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 9:08 PM


Don't forget the lines that ran Electric operations,
N&W, Virginian, Great Northern, Milwaukee Road all did heavy electric trains
as did the NYC and Pennsy..

Shown are my Virginian models on my South Shore module.

Many Interurbans handled freights.
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Posted by Jetrock on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 6:29 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by THE_WEEZ

Interurban electric would go under subways


Really? Normally it is the subways that run underground and interurbans that run on top of them!
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Posted by AntonioFP45 on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 4:58 PM
if it runs on tracks it's RAIL TRANSPORTATION. I like them all!

During the 90s there was an excellent layout featured in MRR. Freelanced, northeastern 1950s and 60s. Featured heavy passenger and freight rail action as well as a very attractive trolley system running through the town.

Good question Jetrock! Interurbans do seem to be a combo of both. A tragedy that the
(1) government
(2) automobile
(3) rubber tire
(4) oil industry

combined, helped wipe out the vast interurban network this country once had. Now dozens of cities are paying $Billions$ of dollars to lay tracks down for light rail on some of the same routes that interurbans ran on in the 1930s!

Life, indeed, is a circle. What goes around.....comes around again. When careless, it will bite you hard in the "wisdom seat"!

For me, just as ironic that I winded up working for a transit bus company for 15 years!

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 3:43 PM
Trains rule!

CSX is awesome!

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Posted by West Coast S on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 3:25 PM
Why classify interurban under subway? Not all interurbans were subways, not all subways were interurban.
SP the way it was in S scale
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Posted by TrainFreak409 on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 1:52 PM
TRAINS ALL THE WAY!

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 1:48 PM
Interurban electric would go under subways
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Posted by Jetrock on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 1:36 PM
Not sure what differentiates *trolleys* from *trams* other than slightly different terms used on either side of the ocean.

And where do interurban electric trains fit into this? Are they trolleys or trains? Or trams?
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Posted by MisterBeasley on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:56 AM
Subways! I'm putting in both heavy-rail and light-rail transportation. Above ground, they'll share the tracks with freight and after a while some intercity or excursion passenger traffic.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:34 AM
Trains. Can't stand trolleys and trams.
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trains trolleys trams subways
Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 9:09 AM
This one may have been repeated, but it my first time creating a poll.

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