trainluver1 signing off...

[Anonymous]

It's been fun, and I've enjoyed communicating with some of you, but there are others out there that I can't say that for.
I've had enough of rude remarks and know it all types that no one can tell anything to.
I've never really liked public forums, but thought this one might be a little different but it's not.
I also don't like the way it's controlled, and the fact that you can't talk about just anything you want or some monitor will edit or pull your reply or topic.
I like the model train hobby and real train chasing as much as the next person, but there's more to life than trains.

Goodbye and good luck to all of you.

trainluver1 (Sam)

[METRO]

May peace travel with you

~METRO

[AntonioFP45]

Sam?

Sorry to read that you're signing out.

This is actually one of the best top-notch forums around! The moderator? Bergie pretty much has let us police ourselves until flaming starts or the rules are ignored.

Rules still must be in place to keep any forum in a high quallity mode.

After visiting other Forums where porn is permitted or responses that don't agree with the moderator are yanked........................I've seen that MRR is the place to be! [:)] [:D][8D]

I still find it amazing the amount of info that I've downloaded from these threads! Where was this 20 years ago? Oh yeah, no internet back then! Had to do it the hard way........go to hobby shops and thumb through magazines.[:p]

Hope you change your mind! Visit the Coffee Shop............Let your hair down and talk about what's happened to make you feel this way. If I'm not there when you get this message, other friends will stop in.

See you there!

[rrinker]

This may sound harsh, and some of you might want to just quit reading right now, but I think it's the truth..

I've been around computers, and online forums, longer than the Internet has been generally available (anyone else active on dialup bulletin boards back in the day?). This forum is one fo the best anywhere - i don't see topics deleted because moderators diasgreed with the opions expressed by the posters or any of that sort of thing. I do see one or two troublemakers pop up that DO get dealt with by the moderator. I will also say - closed forums STINK (well, I'd use harsher words but I don't want to get banned). When there are all sorts of restrictions on joining and so forth, you end up with e VERY closed and limited group, EVERY time. There ARE ways to truly block troublemakers, but it depends on the amount fo time a moderator wants to put in on what amounts to a free service. I know because I participate in an online gaming group and we've had to deal with certain troublemakers, but the guy who runs the message board takes great pleasure in stopping troublemakers. Since this is a public foruma dn not closed, it IS possible to get a bad apple once in a while, but from what I can see, they are promptly dealt with. It's not liek Bergie is onlien 24/7, if things happen in the middle of the night, it takes at least til the next day. At least this isn't like the Atlas forums that shut down COMPLETELY over the weekends a lot of times.
The bottom line - if you think this is bad here, then you might as well just cancel your internet account, because it doesn;t get any better elsewhere. These forums here are a good example of the GOOD things about the internet. Language is controlled, and I don't see people contantly posting "you're wrong, idiot, you should do it THIS way" messages all the time, either.

--Randy

[MisterBeasley]

I'd have to agree with Randy. My experience goes back to writing code for Univac machines on punch cards, and exploring the secrets of Arpanet. These MR forums are, IMHO, among the best. I'm informed, I laugh a lot, I'm occasionally amazed and posts like "What to do about Mikey" a while back almost make me cry.

So, trainluver1, we wish you well on your quest through Cyberspace for the perfect forum. If you find it, drop us a line that we may bask in its glory, but if you wander through the wilderness for a while and come up empty-hoppered, give us a grade-crossing toot. The coffee may be a few hours old, but it will always be warm.

[rtraincollector]

Sorry you have a gripe with what seems to be a very good forum maybe its you or maybe were all nuts and your right but either way hate to see a fellow train lover go to the way side it does sound thou you have other problems with your comment theres more that trains yes there is but thats what this forum is about wheather you come once a hour or once a year thats what will be in here talking about thats why its called model railroad forum not shoot the bull forum . Whis you luck in what ever you do may the smoke always be hind you and not in your eyes

[Anonymous]

Are you really sure that you are referring to THIS forum? I don't see at all what you are talking about. As others have noted, you should check out other online venues to see how crappy they can be. I followed the rec.photos.digital newsgroup for quite some time until I gave it up recently. As you may know, newsgroups are not moderated, and this one and another photography one were the apparent target of some deranged individual(s) who continually posted off topic, vile, and totally irrelevant posts. It got that there were more off topic posts than real messages, and I got tired of wandering through trying to pick out the occasional real messages. And personal attacks! The resident trolls would post vile messages about others on the group, and post their home addresss and phone numbers. Some real sick puppies on that list.

This forum is the total opposite to that type of stuff, so I really don't know what you are referring to. We will continue along with you, hope you have everything in your life totally sanitized the way you want it.

Bob Boudreau

[dave9999]

Sam,
Sorry to see you go. I did look back over your previous post and didn't see
where you had a "falling out" with anyone... unless I just missed it.

Just remember, this only a discussion forum... It's not the "real" world. I have had
problems in the past, as have a lot of others. But you have to keep it in perspective.
It is impossible for everyone to agree on everything. And sometimes people
disagree to the point that it can get a little ugly. But it is still just a discussion board.

The beauty of the internet is if someone ticks you off, all you have to do is click
the little red X in the top right corner of your browser and they're gone. Then you
can come back after you (and the other person) have cooled off.

Well, good luck. Dave

[Anonymous]

This is the best forum I have found relating to trains. The atlas forums are pretty good, but there is more flaming and less community feel there. Good luck and best wishes, you're always welcome back.

[CP5415]

WOW!, & I thought this was one of the better moderated forums I've been apart of.

Hmmm.

As others have said, there's usually little tolerance of spam & or flaming.
Erik is usually dealing with most of the crap within a couple of days.
You have to remember, he has a day job as well!

As for speaking your mind, this forum allows a lot of leeway towards speaking your mind.
Almost everyone here speaks his or her mind on certain topics that they might feel inclined to comment on.
I know I have!!

Sam I wish you well in your journey toward the utopia of online forums but I doubt you'll find one as diverse & opinionated as this one.

Gordon

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by MisterBeasley

I'd have to agree with Randy. My experience goes back to writing code for Univac machines on punch cards, and exploring the secrets of Arpanet. These MR forums are, IMHO, among the best. I'm informed, I laugh a lot, I'm occasionally amazed and posts like "What to do about Mikey" a while back almost make me cry.

So, trainluver1, we wish you well on your quest through Cyberspace for the perfect forum. If you find it, drop us a line that we may bask in its glory, but if you wander through the wilderness for a while and come up empty-hoppered, give us a grade-crossing toot. The coffee may be a few hours old, but it will always be warm.

My feelings as well. Hope you do return from your travels. We all need a break from time to time.

[CP5415]

Hey Metro!!

Are you going to change your signature from Skydome to Rogers Center?

The name changed a few weeks ago.

Gordon

[Don Gibson]

BOB:

I'll give TRAINLUVER1 credit for eliciting your comment ' Playing a blank tape at at full volume and driving your MIME neighbor nuts' ,,, as one of the 'cherce' pieces I've read in a long time. He obviously lack's a sense of humor.

Perhap's he'll come back - when he grow's up.

Cheer's.

[Anonymous]

Okay. I admit. I do owe everyone an explaination for pulling out.
First of all I was angry when I posted this topic. What made me angry was an exchange between myself and another member through our private e-mail. He wrote me out of the clear blue about something I said a while back and we went into it. His final remarks were, and I quote; I'll be watching the forum, and every time I see that you've replied to a topic I'm going to run you down any way I can!...
I'm not going to reveal the persons ID, but rather think it best if I change mine, make a fresh start and let it go at that.

trainluver1

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Don Gibson

BOB:

I'll give TRAINLUVER1 credit for eliciting your comment ' Playing a blank tape at at full volume and driving your MIME neighbor nuts' ,,, as one of the 'cherce' pieces I've read in a long time. He obviously lack's a sense of humor.

Perhap's he'll come back - when he grow's up.

Cheer's.

See what I mean folks...

Actually I thought the joke was very funny.

trainluver1

[dave9999]

Sam,
I think your best coarse of action would be to foward that email to Bergie and let him
deal with the guy. This forum doesn't belong to any of us and no one has the right
to harrass you for what ever reason. Good luck, Dave

[Roadtrp]

[#ditto]

Exactly what I was going to say.

[rtraincollector]

well glad this is getting cleared up felt there was something or someone behind this and I agree foward message to Bergie I do hope thou some how this can get all straightened out.

[twhite]

I'm with the rest of them, Sam--let Bergie take care of it, okay? I'd hate to see you have to leave a really good forum because of the threats of one poster. Stick around, okay? I don't know what this other person's problem is, but I think I can certainly say that the REST of us like you!
Tom [:D]

[willy6]

[#ditto]

[Anonymous]

Thanks folks ( I say folks in case there's any females involved), I appreciate what you've said. Don Gibson was not the guy I had the run in with. The guy I did have words with wrote me and started in on me about some things I'd said in a past topic that he didn't like-which I should have ignored and this whole mess would have never happened, but I've never been one that could take an insult sitting down, so I fired back and we got into it...
I'm going to take your advice and stay on, and if the guy in question gives me the least bit of trouble I'm going to turn him in and do all I can to cost him his membership on this forum. "DO YOU UNDERSTAND MIKE"... I can play hard ball too!. If you so much as disagree with me about anything I'm going to reveal your user name and let the members here on the forum have you for lunch.

trainluver1 signing back on...

[Anonymous]

Glad to hear you're going to stay on. I belong to about 15 different forums, and this is without a doubt, the best of the lot.

[CP5415]

Good to hear Sam

Gordon

[twhite]

[#ditto] with UP-SANTA FE. I belong to several different forums, the others of which have to do with classic movies (my other passion.). I left one because I made a comment about a particularly good Robert Taylor performance in a 1950's western, and got creamed by the MODERATOR, of all people (!) who said that she thought I should have my head examined for liking such an obviously Gay actor. Ohyah? Anyone ever tell his wife and kids that?
So next to THAT kind of thinking, the comments and general camaraderie that goes on in this forum is a REAL breath of fresh air, let me tell you!
Tom[:D]

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by twhite

[#ditto] with UP-SANTA FE. I belong to several different forums, the others of which have to do with classic movies (my other passion.). I left one because I made a comment about a particularly good Robert Taylor performance in a 1950's western, and got creamed by the MODERATOR, of all people (!) who said that she thought I should have my head examined for liking such an obviously Gay actor. Ohyah? Anyone ever tell his wife and kids that?
So next to THAT kind of thinking, the comments and general camaraderie that goes on in this forum is a REAL breath of fresh air, let me tell you!
Tom[:D]

I've never heard anything about Robert Taylor being gay...

Glad to know I'm not the only classic movie lover out there. I've got 686 movies in my modest little collection of sci fi, westerns, comedy, etc that I started back in 1989. Some are on VHS and some on DVD.
Friends of mine tell me if I had commercials that I could start my own TV station...

trainluver1

[bikerraypa]

I understand how you feel. One of my favorite motorcycle forums was taken over by flame-spewers and needlers about a year ago. I hung in hoping for change. It never came, so I never went back.

I've never seen much in the way of problems on this board, but if you have, I know how you feel.

Go easy, man.


Ray out

[selector]

Wow. I am very impressed with how this thread has gone. I agree that trainluver was right to bare his soul before he signed off for keeps. He gave us a chance to ask him to reconsider, and you folks (male and female) came through in a huge way for him. My gratitude and admiration extends to all who have replied with kindness. For those who felt compelled to bid him good riddance,... your opinion is not shared by many here, and I am to be counted with them.

The person who contacted you, TL, had the right if your e-mail was available in your profile. Without knowing what the context of the exhanges were, we can't judge either his or your responses. It must have been pretty upsetting for you to offer to leave what I feel is a wonderful and sympathetic circle of colleagues and friends.

Like the others, I am happy we've convinced you to stay. Even if we disagree a whole lot, your opinion should have no more value than mine. Our ability to maintain civil discourse is what gives this forum authenticity and depth.

-Crandell

[twhite]

Trainluver1--with your 686 movies and my 820, maybe we could give TCM a run for it's money, okay? However I've got a faculty friend that has about 1200--and he can quote actors and directors for all of them. Now THAT'S a movie buff in my book, LOL! Glad you've decided to stay--we train/movie lovers have to stick together.
Tom [:D][:D]

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by twhite

Trainluver1--with your 686 movies and my 820, maybe we could give TCM a run for it's money, okay? However I've got a faculty friend that has about 1200--and he can quote actors and directors for all of them. Now THAT'S a movie buff in my book, LOL! Glad you've decided to stay--we train/movie lovers have to stick together.
Tom [:D][:D]

Let's get it going Tom... With my 686, your 820 and your friend's 1,200 we can make it work!. Ted Turner, eat your heart out...

God bless all of you folks and thank you for your kind words. Please forgive me for the negative things I said when I opened the topic. I also want to apologize to Bergie as well. I was angry, and sometimes when I get angry I get stupid.

trainluver1

[Anonymous]

trainluver1, stick with it. Don't let one ( fill in the blank) ruin it for you. Sure it wasn't some kid just having "fun"? The Rock lives forever (at least in my upstairs)