Chip
Building the Rock Ridge Railroad with the slowest construction crew west of the Pecos.
QUOTE: Originally posted by Don Gibson MOUSE: What' that old sign? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . PLAN AHEAd
QUOTE: Originally posted by Don Gibson Are you thinking about a typical 4' X 8'? EVERYBODY has limitations - space, time, money, ...... and unlimited option's are a convenient reason to put off making choices.
QUOTE: Originally posted by Don Gibson [. DON'T be back-a**ward. START with your space, Mouse. QUOTE: Why? You start with a space you are limited to the space. You think small and confine your thinking.{/quote]OK If you're thinking about a typical 4' X 8'. If you start from the unlimited, you create options. These options can be narrowed and you can make the best choices to fit your space. EVERYBODY has limitations - space, time, money, ...... and unlimited option's are a good excuse to put off making choices. Is not creating limitations creating a good excuse for not acheiving excellence? Chip Building the Rock Ridge Railroad with the slowest construction crew west of the Pecos. Reply Don Gibson Member sinceJune 2004 From: Pacific Northwest 3,864 posts Posted by Don Gibson on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 3:58 PM S&M "START with your space, Mouse." QUOTE: Why? You start with a space you are limited to the space. You think small and confine your thinking Are you thinking about a typical 4' X 8'? QUOTE: If you start from the unlimited, you create options. These options can be narrowed and you can make the best choices to fit your space. EVERYBODY has limitations - space, time, money, - What's your's?...... and unlimited option's are a convenient reason to put off making choices. (as there's always a new one). Don Gibson .............. ________ _______ I I__()____||__| ||||| I / I ((|__|----------| | |||||||||| I ______ I // o--O O O O-----o o OO-------OO ########################### Reply underworld Member sinceFebruary 2005 1,821 posts Posted by underworld on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 3:39 PM Working on something like that now. Combining industrialized areas of NW Ohio, Detroit, Chicago, and somewhere in Europe. underworld [:D][:D][:D][:D][:D] currently on Tour with Sleeper Cell myspace.com/sleepercellrock Sleeper Cell is @ Checkers in Bowling Green Ohio 12/31/2009 come on out to the party!!! we will be shooting more video for MTVs The Making of a Metal Band Reply SpaceMouse Member sinceDecember 2004 From: Rimrock, Arizona 11,251 posts Posted by SpaceMouse on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 3:30 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by Don Gibson 1. You are building a mdel Rairoad to REPRESENT something. It's a Reprentation. 2. Unless you have a 'Land Grant', It has to be confined. 3. You have to fit it into that CONFINEMENT. DON'T be back-assward. START with your space, Mouse. Why? You start with a space you are limited to the space. You think small and confine your thinking. If you start from the unlimited, you create options. These options can be narrowed and you can make the best choices to fit your space. Chip Building the Rock Ridge Railroad with the slowest construction crew west of the Pecos. Reply Don Gibson Member sinceJune 2004 From: Pacific Northwest 3,864 posts Posted by Don Gibson on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 3:20 PM 1. You are building a mdel Rairoad to REPRESENT something. It's a Reprentation. 2. Unless you have a 'Land Grant', It has to be confined. 3. You have to fit it into that CONFINEMENT. DON'T be back-assward. START with your space, Mouse. Don Gibson .............. ________ _______ I I__()____||__| ||||| I / I ((|__|----------| | |||||||||| I ______ I // o--O O O O-----o o OO-------OO ########################### Reply rrinker Member sinceFebruary 2002 From: Reading, PA 30,002 posts Posted by rrinker on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 3:01 PM Yeah that was the utimate compliment we got at the club I used to belong to. Some railroad employees came by one day while we were working (signal guys - workign just outside our door), and they remarked that they could tell EXACTLY where they were on the layout by the track arrangment, it exactly matched the real thing. They traded us a look at the innards of the crossing gate controller and sensor for a look at the layout. Not much to see on a modern system, all solid state now, the relays were long gone. Gel-cell batteries to power it, too, the old battery celler was also empty. --Randy Modeling the Reading Railroad in the 1950's Visit my web site at www.readingeastpenn.com for construction updates, DCC Info, and more. Reply cmrproducts Member sinceJanuary 2001 From: US 1,774 posts Posted by cmrproducts on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 1:06 PM Isn’t that similar to those that build prototypical layouts and are basically putting the section of the real railroad into their layout space? You take the portions of the real thing and try to duplicate them. We have done this at the Clarion Club and have the pictures of the actual area on the fascia. We have had guests in for a visit and have stated that they actually found their house on the layout. BOB H Clarion, PA Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 12:48 PM Oh, I get you now. That's exactly what I plan on doing. I wanted a full engine terminal and a classification yard. Basically my whole layout is a terminal that turns locomotives, engine and car repairs, assigns motive power, breaks up and assembles trains and send them on their way. Lots of switching involved. There isn't room for more than one or two towns with a few customers (I'd like to have a daily local), including the town the terminal resides in. There will be a some scenery running through the eastern hills. The trains will be sent off to hidden staging. I plan to automate the hidden tracks to schedule trains to arrive at the yard to keep it busy. Should be enough jobs for three people. Reply Edit RoyalOaker Member sinceFebruary 2005 169 posts Posted by RoyalOaker on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 12:13 PM What I would love is a 25' straightaway to really stetch out some long trians. What I have is a 5x9.[|)] So, I try to run my trains slow and keep em short so it feels like it takes longer to get around.[:)] Dave Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 11:52 AM I'm too greedy to do such a thing!. If I can't have it all I don't want it... Reply Edit rrinker Member sinceFebruary 2002 From: Reading, PA 30,002 posts Posted by rrinker on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 11:23 AM I'd have to say, it depends. If you chop out just one part of an overall 'dream' layout, you might end up with something that is missing key elements that make it work - depending on your wants/needs, this could man loss of continuous run, over-complicating switching due to lack of runarounds or something, or something else. It's a worthwhile thougt - I know I've thought about what I would build if I could put up a 50x100 building, or even if I could use the WHOLE basement. But I haven't actively planned sucha thing, other than in my head. I fear too much disappointment - wow, great plan, now if I only had a 50x100 building. Hard to go back to the TRUE space after that. --Randy Modeling the Reading Railroad in the 1950's Visit my web site at www.readingeastpenn.com for construction updates, DCC Info, and more. Reply SpaceMouse Member sinceDecember 2004 From: Rimrock, Arizona 11,251 posts Trying this again Posted by SpaceMouse on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 11:00 AM In a previous post, I suggested a design technique. The steps were: Imagine your perfect layout without limitations of space. Select the favorite portions of this perfect layout. Apply these portions to your existing space. You should then have the perfect for you, for the space you have availible. For a more detailed expalnation read the other post. Chip Building the Rock Ridge Railroad with the slowest construction crew west of the Pecos. Reply Subscriber & Member Login Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, manage your account online and more! 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QUOTE: Why? You start with a space you are limited to the space. You think small and confine your thinking.{/quote]OK If you're thinking about a typical 4' X 8'. If you start from the unlimited, you create options. These options can be narrowed and you can make the best choices to fit your space. EVERYBODY has limitations - space, time, money, ...... and unlimited option's are a good excuse to put off making choices.
If you start from the unlimited, you create options. These options can be narrowed and you can make the best choices to fit your space.
QUOTE: Why? You start with a space you are limited to the space. You think small and confine your thinking
QUOTE: If you start from the unlimited, you create options. These options can be narrowed and you can make the best choices to fit your space.
QUOTE: Originally posted by Don Gibson 1. You are building a mdel Rairoad to REPRESENT something. It's a Reprentation. 2. Unless you have a 'Land Grant', It has to be confined. 3. You have to fit it into that CONFINEMENT. DON'T be back-assward. START with your space, Mouse.
Modeling the Reading Railroad in the 1950's
Visit my web site at www.readingeastpenn.com for construction updates, DCC Info, and more.