QUOTE: Originally posted by SpaceMouse Other than that, it ook about 12 hours ...
QUOTE: Originally posted by bpickering Originally posted by SpaceMouse SpaceMouse, I gotta envy you the time you've got to spend on this hobby, and the progress you've made. I don't feel ready to try the Roundhouse steam kits I've got quite yet. I'll definitely be taking your experience, as well as the suggestion that NWSL has specific re-gear kits, to heart. Brian "IT Slave" Pickering Don't let my bad expereince with the shaft stop you. For the most part, everything went together well. It was not particularly difficult except handling a few things smaller thatn an ant's fingenails. The hardest part of this project, really was figuring out the airbru***o paint the body. Other than that, it ook about 12 hours and a lot of that was waiting for paint to dry on pieces I didn't figure I need to paint (or knew where they went to know what color). I figure the expereince was great and the next ones should be a lot easier. Chip Building the Rock Ridge Railroad with the slowest construction crew west of the Pecos. Reply bpickering Member sinceSeptember 2004 From: East-Side Seattle 455 posts Posted by bpickering on Thursday, March 31, 2005 11:58 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by SpaceMouse That was the saving grace--that I was thinking of re-gearing the switchers anyway. Still... All I really have left to figure out are the drive shafts...then a little detail work and all set for Sunday Photo Time. SpaceMouse, I gotta envy you the time you've got to spend on this hobby, and the progress you've made. I don't feel ready to try the Roundhouse steam kits I've got quite yet. I'll definitely be taking your experience, as well as the suggestion that NWSL has specific re-gear kits, to heart. Brian "IT Slave" Pickering Brian Pickering "Typos are very important to all written form. It gives the reader something to look for so they aren't distracted by the total lack of content in your writing." - Randy K. Milholland Reply SpaceMouse Member sinceDecember 2004 From: Rimrock, Arizona 11,251 posts Posted by SpaceMouse on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 11:11 PM Thanks for the tip. The LHS caters to slot cars. I guess there might be a chance. Chip Building the Rock Ridge Railroad with the slowest construction crew west of the Pecos. Reply underworld Member sinceFebruary 2005 1,821 posts Posted by underworld on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 10:45 PM SpaceMouse I've been in a bind before because of needing a gear. Sometimes I was able to find an appropriate substitute at a shop that caters to R/C cars....they usually have quite a selection if their customers are scratchbuilders or modifiers. underworld [:D][:D][:D][:D][:D] currently on Tour with Sleeper Cell myspace.com/sleepercellrock Sleeper Cell is @ Checkers in Bowling Green Ohio 12/31/2009 come on out to the party!!! we will be shooting more video for MTVs The Making of a Metal Band Reply SpaceMouse Member sinceDecember 2004 From: Rimrock, Arizona 11,251 posts Posted by SpaceMouse on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 10:04 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by twhite Chip--DEFINITELY check out Northwest Short Line. They've saved my rear several times when I've had to replace open-frame motor/gear kits with cans. They carry just about everything you need for re-fitting almost every steam loco ever manufactured. The 4-6-0 re-fit will be a slam-dunk if you go with them. And it'll run nice and quiet and smooth. That company is a lifesaver! Tom[^] The 4-6-0 has a can, but the two 0-6-0's don't. I am thinking of gearing them down though. Chip Building the Rock Ridge Railroad with the slowest construction crew west of the Pecos. Reply twhite Member sinceJuly 2004 From: Carmichael, CA 8,055 posts Posted by twhite on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 9:40 PM Chip--DEFINITELY check out Northwest Short Line. They've saved my rear several times when I've had to replace open-frame motor/gear kits with cans. They carry just about everything you need for re-fitting almost every steam loco ever manufactured. The 4-6-0 re-fit will be a slam-dunk if you go with them. And it'll run nice and quiet and smooth. That company is a lifesaver! Tom[^] Tom View my layout photos! http://s299.photobucket.com/albums/mm310/TWhite-014/Rio%20Grande%20Yuba%20River%20Sub One can NEVER have too many Articulateds! Reply JohnT14808 Member sinceJanuary 2003 From: Pacific NW 733 posts Posted by JohnT14808 on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 9:30 PM ...makes me glad I didn't buy that Mogul after all...... Reply SpaceMouse Member sinceDecember 2004 From: Rimrock, Arizona 11,251 posts Posted by SpaceMouse on Saturday, March 26, 2005 9:30 PM That was the saving grace--that I was thinking of re-gearing the switchers anyway. Still... All I really have left to figure out are the drive shafts...then a little detail work and all set for Sunday Photo Time. Chip Building the Rock Ridge Railroad with the slowest construction crew west of the Pecos. Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 26, 2005 9:20 PM Chip Before you shoot the 4-6-0 or yourself, check out the Northwest Short Line web site. Go to page 8 and a pdf file will open. They have re-gear kits for MDC Roundhouse locos other than the Shays. They list sets for 1.5 mm, 2mm, 3/32" shafts If you can't figure out which one is for your 0-6-0, e-mail them and ask. I was able to buy a new gear box from them for an old Athearn steam loco. Good luck! Reply Edit SpaceMouse Member sinceDecember 2004 From: Rimrock, Arizona 11,251 posts Posted by SpaceMouse on Saturday, March 26, 2005 8:55 PM I do own a really nice slicked-up pump shot gun. Chip Building the Rock Ridge Railroad with the slowest construction crew west of the Pecos. Reply DigitalGriffin Member sinceDecember 2004 From: Pa. 3,361 posts Posted by DigitalGriffin on Saturday, March 26, 2005 7:59 PM Geeze Chip, You seem to hit a lot of bad luck. Maybe you should just step away from the trains nice and easy, and no Baldwins/Alcos will get hurt. [:o)] ~Best Of Luck On The Next One ~Don Don - Specializing in layout DC->DCC conversions Modeling C&O transition era and steel industries There's Nothing Like Big Steam! Reply SpaceMouse Member sinceDecember 2004 From: Rimrock, Arizona 11,251 posts Posted by SpaceMouse on Saturday, March 26, 2005 7:11 PM Okay, I stole the gear out of my 0-6-0 kit so I am moving forward, and putting off solving the problem until later. The motor mount did snap off like I figured, but the pin is so tight it is being held into place. once the mount is attatched to the chasis, I'll see about fashioning a mini-bracket and soldering it on. What a hassle. Chip Building the Rock Ridge Railroad with the slowest construction crew west of the Pecos. Reply rrinker Member sinceFebruary 2002 From: Reading, PA 30,002 posts Posted by rrinker on Saturday, March 26, 2005 7:02 PM My father-in-law keeps teling me he never liked MDC kits. I dunno, I put together one of the Boxcab Diesels, other than the loud drive train it's not so bad. One of these days I might actual detail it to look more like the ones the Reading had, since the MDC kit is really only correct for the first one. But then, I have an unbuilt MDC Northeastern caboose, and it might STAY unbuilt. Looks like a mess of flash. Plus naturally is is not really correct for the Reading, mainly in having the wrong steps, even if they did correctly paint the roof brown. Oh well. --Randy Modeling the Reading Railroad in the 1950's Visit my web site at www.readingeastpenn.com for construction updates, DCC Info, and more. Reply cacole Member sinceJuly 2003 From: Sierra Vista, Arizona 13,757 posts Posted by cacole on Saturday, March 26, 2005 6:58 PM MDC does still exist -- they are now part of Athearn. Try sending an e-mail to Athearn and see if they can't help you. I don't know their e-mail address, but you should be able to find it by going to their Web site at http://www.athearn.com Good luck. The last MDC kit I ever assembled was way back in the mid-1960's, and I'm sure things have changed since then. One word of caution, though -- never purchase an MDC Shay locomotive kit, because they require double the kit cost in regearing components from other manufacturers in order to get one to run. The pre-assembled MDC Shay is made in China, and runs very well except for a high-pitched whine, if you're ever in the market for a Shay. Reply SpaceMouse Member sinceDecember 2004 From: Rimrock, Arizona 11,251 posts I think I'm going to cry. (Ricker Fracker MDC kit!) Posted by SpaceMouse on Saturday, March 26, 2005 6:16 PM Well I got my son's 4-6-0 MDC kit painted in Hogwarts colors and I was just starting to put the chasis to gether . The very first step was putting the gear through the motor mount. I stuck a drill throught the hole to clean out any debri that might be in there and as gently and firmly as I could started tapping the retaining pin into place. I am used to working on guns were such parts fit. Anyway I tapped it down until the pin was just protruding from one side. I picked up the gear to slide it into place and I noticed that the other side of the motor bracket had bent in while I was pounding the pin in from the other side. Well I grabbed a pair of needle nose and gently bent it back. It went, but trouble is I felt like it was incredibly weak. Then I slid the gear in and started tapping. It takes a lot of force to get that pin to slide. The pin went in 1/16 and the gear split. Not down the middle, but with the force required to get the pin in, it moved just a little and 4 teeth are sheared off. What do I do now? I work on it for 5 minutes and I've broken the motor mount and the gear. What did I do wrong? Do I have to use a micrometer and re-machine every part in the kit? Is this kit now junk because MDC doesn't exist right now? Chip Building the Rock Ridge Railroad with the slowest construction crew west of the Pecos. 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Originally posted by SpaceMouse SpaceMouse, I gotta envy you the time you've got to spend on this hobby, and the progress you've made. I don't feel ready to try the Roundhouse steam kits I've got quite yet. I'll definitely be taking your experience, as well as the suggestion that NWSL has specific re-gear kits, to heart. Brian "IT Slave" Pickering
Chip
Building the Rock Ridge Railroad with the slowest construction crew west of the Pecos.
QUOTE: Originally posted by SpaceMouse That was the saving grace--that I was thinking of re-gearing the switchers anyway. Still... All I really have left to figure out are the drive shafts...then a little detail work and all set for Sunday Photo Time.
QUOTE: Originally posted by twhite Chip--DEFINITELY check out Northwest Short Line. They've saved my rear several times when I've had to replace open-frame motor/gear kits with cans. They carry just about everything you need for re-fitting almost every steam loco ever manufactured. The 4-6-0 re-fit will be a slam-dunk if you go with them. And it'll run nice and quiet and smooth. That company is a lifesaver! Tom[^]
Tom View my layout photos! http://s299.photobucket.com/albums/mm310/TWhite-014/Rio%20Grande%20Yuba%20River%20Sub One can NEVER have too many Articulateds!
Don - Specializing in layout DC->DCC conversions
Modeling C&O transition era and steel industries There's Nothing Like Big Steam!
Modeling the Reading Railroad in the 1950's
Visit my web site at www.readingeastpenn.com for construction updates, DCC Info, and more.