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Woodland Scenics Built n Ready

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Posted by Jetrock on Friday, March 17, 2006 3:08 PM
I just don't get paying someone else to build my structure kits...building buildings is my favorite part of the hobby, and that and my love of switching explain why I am also fond of urban switching layouts!

I don't hesitate to modify a painted and decaled locomotive if I want to add details or weathering, and don't see why that would be much different from modifying and weathering a pre-built structure kit. In fact, if I were to utilize one of those kits (if someone got me one as a gift, or I got some super deal at a swap meet) I would probably start monkeying with the kit and weathering until it met my standards.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 17, 2006 3:01 PM
$911.23 dollars for a paperback book? Man, Please tell me there's a typo in there somewhere. My most expensive college book was $120.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 17, 2006 2:41 PM
It's a bit off the topic but talk about paying too much, how about buying a new paperback copy of Freight Car Projects and Ideas (Model Railroader) by Kent J. Johnson for $911.23!!! [:0]

You can still buy it from TrainWorld for $13.99 + shipping. Go figure.
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Posted by rrgrassi on Friday, March 17, 2006 2:06 PM
RTR Structures...Mobile Home, right?[:D]

There is a dulling, clear spray you can get from Krylon or some one like that. They are listed as safe for oil, enamels, acrylics, plastics, wood, metal, ect. I use the gloss and the dull. Gloss to make a dull surface shiny so I can add decals, then spray again with gloss to blend the decals in, then a coat of dull, so that weathering chalks will stick. I get it at Wally World. However, do avoid the so called "Triple Thick" It sprays in splotches, not a nice smooth coat.
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Posted by AntonioFP45 on Friday, March 17, 2006 12:35 PM
Smart business strategy as this is basically the "RTR" version of the structure kits.

Personally, I prefer the kits. But we have to consider that for persons that have little hobby time on their hands are have great difficulty building kits because of physical problems, this seems like a good way to go.

Another consideration is that this is also good for those businesses, civic groups, etc. that sometimes use scale models to represent an idea or proposal for a city/town/or neighborhood.

If these start showing up on ebay, it's safe to say that they'd be bought quickly.

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Posted by dragenrider on Friday, March 18, 2005 8:55 PM
Just a thought...have any of you noticed what well finished, weathered buildings are selling for on eBay? [:O]

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Posted by Ibflattop on Friday, March 18, 2005 11:54 AM
I say chalk it up!!!!!! Chalks are forgiving and easy to work with. Dont worry about the price tag just dont add everything up that you have spent on the Model Railroad Hobby!!!!!!!!!!!! Kevin
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Posted by selector on Thursday, March 17, 2005 9:52 PM
I don't really get much out of putting kits together, unlike some of you. I did most of my of my current structures so that I could be knowledgeable; i.e., for the experience. I find them a bit messy and finicky, so I would make a couple now and then, but never an entire village and industrial block..just too much time away from what I prefer to do- run trains.

That said, my layout has exactly two built-ups, a church and a house. The other structures are all hand built. Would I pay $65 Cdn for a well-constructed structure? Sure, if I wanted it in a hurry. When I think of what my time was worth as I retired, and what the kit would cost, the extra $20+ for the ready-to-place object is dirt cheap.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 17, 2005 4:42 PM
I love scratch and kit building so much, I wouldn't know what to do with myself if all I had to do was open a box, set it on the table and just look at it. That would get very boring quickly.
However, I really don't save any money by scratch building. I spent $30 just on glass block windows. $50 for a prebuilt doesn't look too bad after I total up the tab for my latest project.
I know I spent over $300 building and detailing my 15 stall roundhouse and turntable. Just the roundhouse interior detail castings was $50. Not to mention I built it over a five year period.
So don't feel bad about spending $50. But it's ok to be mad that you could have done as well or better job yourself.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 17, 2005 3:36 PM
Woodland seems like there playing to both ends of the hobby, they offer those sets of white metal castings that you paint and weather yourself, and then they offer whats basicly a dressed up kit, already built up.

I guess its a good ballace between the two.
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Posted by twhite on Thursday, March 17, 2005 3:10 PM
Well, my LHS got them in, and I have to admit they're sure cute little fellas, but I think I'll stick with my kits. I don't need that big a town anyway, and I've already started work on the Walther's "Merchant's Row" (four or five 'buildings' in one block for about half the Woodland Scenics price for one). I also noticed that WS came out with some 'auto scenes' from the 40's and 50's. Again, pretty expensive, but WOW, are they cool. Now those, I think I'll get a couple of!
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Posted by CBQ_Guy on Thursday, March 17, 2005 3:03 PM
They're beautiful but if I ever pay the price they want for basically a DPM building with a few details added, PLEASE call the men in the white coats to come and take me awayl

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 11, 2005 5:59 PM
Of course I already opened the packaging, not to mention using a nonrefundable gift certificate from walthers. I guess I'll have to make do, right?

As for the assembled-model buisness: those people make a lot of money selling to lazy people like me!
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Posted by grayfox1119 on Friday, March 11, 2005 5:26 PM
Sounds like a great job for us retired folks....plenty of time, nice relaxing hobby, and earn some money to boot....
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Posted by orsonroy on Friday, March 11, 2005 3:23 PM
Tom,

DPM and Woodland Scenics are two departments of the same company. That's why the DPM building kits come with WS flocking and dry transfers (and why they've got the same address!). This is just the company's attempt to cash in on the RTR market. Considering how much hand work goes into each one of the RTR DPM buildings (most of the work HAS to be hand done), $50 isn't that steep. Heck, I'll charge ya $20 to custom paint and decal a twin hopper, if you supply the kit!

And it's working. My LHS got a big box of them from Walthers last week. They've sold 29 of the 30 they got in as of yesterday. All at around $50 a building. For that kind of cash, I should get assembling buildings!

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Posted by twhite on Friday, March 11, 2005 11:08 AM
Plastic? Now I'm REALLY leery of the price-tag! And they looked kinda cute in the ad photo, in fact I had a place all set out for them. Think I'll go with the Walthers "Merchant's Row" instead. Not to kick a downed horse anymore than necessary, but some of the products that Woodland Scenics puts out can be gotten MUCH cheaper from other manufacturers (plaster cloth, Hydrocal, cement, etc.). But I do like their scenery material very much. But those buildings just seem way out of line price-wise to me.
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Posted by tatans on Friday, March 11, 2005 10:57 AM
Orsonroy, could'nt agree more, I believe the finished product will be superior to a kit. let's get "modeling''
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Posted by orsonroy on Friday, March 11, 2005 9:04 AM
Go to your LHS, buy the same DPM building kit for $9, paint and weather it to your heart's content, buy $40 worth of scenery details, add as desired. Enjoy the feeling of actually modelling, and getting EXACTLY what you wanted with your money.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 10, 2005 5:11 PM
They're made of plastic. I was thinking wash, but the buildings already are pretty light. Chalk sounds allright to me too.
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Posted by twhite on Thursday, March 10, 2005 3:48 PM
I haven't seen the buildings yet (surprised at the price tag--didn't think they'd be THAT expensive!). Do you have any idea of what material they're made out of? I know some of the other Woodland Scenics building kits are white metal, just wondering about these. I might suggest chalk weathering, since it can always be washed off if you don't like the results. However, that depends on what Woodland Scenics used as paint finishes on the buildings to begin with. I'd have to see the buildings myself to have any other ideas, but at THAT price, I think I'm just going to stick with Walthers and Design Preservation. However, chalk sounds relatively safe to me.
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Woodland Scenics Built n Ready
Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 10, 2005 3:34 PM
Recently, I purchaced two woodland scenics "built n ready" structures from walthers.......and for 50 bucks each, I expected a bit more. The buildings, which were advertised as "weathered", weren't even close! Also, the roofs are painted factory jet-black. Is anybody else disappointed with these features or others? Am I cheating in buying assembled buildings?

Although I usually wouldn't hesitate in weathering these models, I'm nervous about touching these (It's the $50 price tag!). Any 'noninvasive' ideas for the problems I mentioned?

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