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Having trouble with the wheel gage on Walther's USRA 0-8-0 tender

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Having trouble with the wheel gage on Walther's USRA 0-8-0 tender
Posted by Werl on Saturday, September 23, 2023 4:44 PM

I originally built an industrial siding with Atlas N Snap switches in an allignment where the train engine needs to move forward and backward over two adjacent turnouts and both routs. My engine, a Walthers N 0-8-0 worked fine with these turnouts. I recently replaced these turnouts with Atlas N Custom Line switches due to their better appearance and suposedly tighter adherance the NMRA standards. I prepared the new turnouts by filing the points, etc.

Now my 0-8-0 has real trouble negotiating the adjacent turnouts, stalling at slow speeds and very rough running at higher speeds. I checked all the turnout clearances with a NMRA gauge and everything checked out. However when I checked the loco, the tender wheels turned out to be slightly two narrow by about a match book cover. I suspect that this is the issue because of the Custom Line tighter clearances. (The engine itself is right in gage according to the NMRA gage)

This tender also picks up power and is part of the drive. The wheels have two flanges-one for the track and one for the pick up. I removed the wheel sets and attempted to twist and tap them into gage, but none of the wheels would budge. I even tried placing wheel sets in the freezer for half an hour and they still won't budge. The wheel sets fit into the side frames with an axel needle so i don't think i can use a gear puller to adjust the gage.

Does anyone have any advice on how to adjust the tender wheels into NMRA gage?

Thanks in advance

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Posted by Southgate 2 on Tuesday, September 26, 2023 7:59 AM

Rough running the way you describe could be from poor electrical pickup problems.

Do the new turnouts have insulated (plastic) frogs? That will cause the loco to not pick up power when its wheels are on it. 

Or if it has isolated (metal) frogs, but they are not receiving power, that will do it too. Metal frogs have to be electrically oriented to which side of the loco is on them as it goes through the turnout..

Dan

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Posted by Werl on Tuesday, September 26, 2023 2:53 PM

Hi SouthGate, yes the new turnouts have plastic frogs like all atlas code 80 turnouts. But so did the Snap sitches and the loco ran fine over those. With both the engine and tender wheels picking up power this should not be an issue. I still think it is the narrow gage of the tender wheels which are probably bumping up against the inner protection (check) rails adjacent to the frog which keep rolling stock wheels from picking the point on the frog. The Custom Line switches have a narrower gap equal to the NMRA check gage than the Snap switches which is why I replaced them. Also all the  rail joints are are soldered exept for the joint between the two adjacent turnouts and there are powered feeds at both ends. Can anyone from Walthers say how the tender wheels are securedcd?

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