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An F unit with two cabs? and The most intricate paint job ever?

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Monday, October 17, 2022 9:07 PM

DrW
Anyway, since I bought this model from Auscision in Australia, they send me their promotional material for new models. Recently, the most interesting products (but not at all fitting into my time frame) were Australian NR class locomotives in indigenous paint schemes. Here is a pic of a prototype... These patterns must be terribly difficult to reproduce in a model. But Auscision succeded (disclosure: I have no financial interests in this company)...

 

They did not paint that locomotive. That is a printed wrap.

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Posted by wjstix on Monday, October 17, 2022 9:28 AM

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Interesting how many times EMD duplicated similar schemes just using some color and a few other variations. The first Rio grande scheme is very similar to several others. They switched the colors out to make several others.

EMD had it's own styling department who worked with railroads to come up with the paintschemes, but there were several 'standard' paint schemes that several railroads chose to use. Usually these were based on an EMD demonstrator scheme. Early B&M and D&RGW F's had paintschemes similar to the FT 103 demonstrator scheme for example.

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Monday, October 17, 2022 5:29 AM

Not just for Austrailians or juicers...

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Posted by DanRaitz on Saturday, October 15, 2022 10:13 AM

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DrW
Here is a pic of a prototype...

 

That reminds me of the "Dazzle Camoflage" that was applied to some B-24 Liberators.

What an insane paint scheme.

-Kevin

 

 

 

B-24 Liberator “Assembly Ship” paint schemes. These war weary, stripped down bombers were used to lead and organize formations and returned to base once the attacking bombers were on the way to Germany. : WWIIplanes (reddit.com)

 

 

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Friday, October 14, 2022 8:03 PM

DrW
Here is a pic of a prototype...

That reminds me of the "Dazzle Camoflage" that was applied to some B-24 Liberators.

What an insane paint scheme.

-Kevin

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Posted by gmpullman on Friday, October 14, 2022 7:54 PM

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Interesting how many times EMD duplicated similar schemes just using some color and a few other variations.

I recall several articles in Classic Trains featuring the GM/EMD Style and Art department under Leland A. Knickerbocker and their influence on locomotive design. 

Tom Fawell was an accomplished advertizing artist with EMD. You would instantly recognize some of his paintings done for EMD ads.

https://www.therailroadcollection.com/railroad-artwork/tom-fawell-visionary-electro-motive-diesel-advertising-artist/

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Posted by drgwcs on Friday, October 14, 2022 7:38 PM

gmpullman

The Great Northern repaired a wreck-damaged Y-1A using two cabs from FTs.

The Pennsylvania Railroad bought it in 1956 and this engine was used as a parts doner. Later, in 1966, one of the cabs was chopped off to be used to repair an FP7 No 9859. The only FP7 with small, side number boards. The other cab was used to repair an E7 in 1960.

That paint job on the class B looks an awful lot like the ERIE scheme as well:

 ERIE_Warren_7 by Edmund, on Flickr

Regards, Ed

 

Interesting how many times EMD duplicated similar schemes just using some color and a few other variations. The first Rio grande scheme is very similar to several others. They switched the colors out to make several others. 

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Posted by gmpullman on Friday, October 14, 2022 6:59 PM

The Great Northern repaired a wreck-damaged Y-1A using two cabs from FTs.

The Pennsylvania Railroad bought it in 1956 and this engine was used as a parts doner. Later, in 1966, one of the cabs was chopped off to be used to repair an FP7 No 9859. The only FP7 with small, side number boards. The other cab was used to repair an E7 in 1960.

That paint job on the class B looks an awful lot like the ERIE scheme as well:

 ERIE_Warren_7 by Edmund, on Flickr

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Posted by philo426 on Friday, October 14, 2022 5:30 PM

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An F unit with two cabs? and The most intricate paint job ever?
Posted by DrW on Friday, October 14, 2022 4:59 PM

Several European and Australian railroads had F unit variants with a cab on each end (as common on diesel and electric locomotives in these countries). The B class of the Victorian Railways in Australia had a paint scheme pretty similar to Santa Fe freight F units.

I own one of these locos. It is fun to see the reaction of some self-proclaimed Santa Fe "experts" when this loco turns up as a helper of a freight train with "proper" F or FT units.

Anyway, since I bought this model from Auscision in Australia, they send me their promotional material for new models. Recently, the most interesting products (but not at all fitting into my time frame) were Australian NR class locomotives in indigenous paint schemes. Here is a pic of a prototype...

These patterns must be terribly difficult to reproduce in a model. But Auscision succeded (disclosure: I have no financial interests in this company)...

More details are shown in this youtube video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8ECHnpUsoI&t=712s

Even if you are not interested in Australian aboriginal paint schemes, watch around 12:05 of the video where they show the labels indicating different connections between loco and cars or other locos; I have never seen this on a US model (well, it might be possible that US railroads do not apply such labels).

Fascinating

JW

 

 

 

 

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