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The Mighty PA's

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The Mighty PA's
Posted by Bayway Terminal on Friday, June 24, 2022 10:33 PM

 Which road scheme is your favorite for this iconic Alco diesel ?

Warbonnet Chief Art Print featuring the photograph Santa-Fe Chief 51 Warbonnet Alco PA1 by Wernher Krutein

 

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Posted by drgwcs on Friday, June 24, 2022 11:36 PM

Tough decision. I think the Santa Fe's was probably the most photogenic. Just picked up a Proto Santa Fe PA and PB at an estate sale cheap. I have a UP PA in Proto as well. I do love the Rio Grande's schemes on these as well. Have an Athearn in the black and yellow as well as some silver ones still to letter in the short lived silver scheme. The Yellow and Silver is too new for my Era but is beautiful on the PA's too. The one stripe did not look as good though in my opinion for what it is worth. 

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Posted by gmpullman on Friday, June 24, 2022 11:56 PM

Tough decision, too!

I have to admit some bias since GE kept me employed for almost 40 years, but it was a different company then.

 IMG_5491_fix by Edmund, on Flickr

After their More Power To America tour these PA-2s wound up on the P&LE as 4212 and 4304.

Still, the Nickel Plate Bluebird scheme rates up there with me.

 IMG_4256_fix by Edmund, on Flickr

    — and, well, I like the early Erie shades of green also:

 Erie_nose6 by Edmund, on Flickr

Somewhere in the mix would be the New York Central two-tone gray arrangement. Subdued but classy:

 NYC_PA-fuel stop by Edmund, on Flickr

 Century_Pass by Edmund, on Flickr

Now ask me to pick a favorite grandchild Whistling

Regards, Ed

 

 

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Saturday, June 25, 2022 12:20 AM

ERIE LACKAWANNA for me. Gray and maroon look great together.

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Posted by doctorwayne on Saturday, June 25, 2022 12:39 AM

I was never much a fan of the PAs, but did like the FAs and FPAs a lot more, pretty well in any paint scheme.

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Posted by richhotrain on Saturday, June 25, 2022 5:33 AM

doctorwayne

I was never much a fan of the PAs, but did like the FAs and FPAs a lot more, pretty well in any paint scheme.

Wayne

 

I'm with Wayne on this one. I hate PA and PB locomotIves. They somehow just don't look right.

 Rich

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Posted by gmpullman on Saturday, June 25, 2022 5:48 AM

richhotrain
They somehow just don't look right.

Hmmm —

 NYC, Fairborn, Ohio, 1956 by Center for Railroad Photography & Art, on Flickr

 GM&O/SP, Meridian, Mississippi, 1958 by Center for Railroad Photography & Art, on Flickr

 

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Posted by "JaBear" on Saturday, June 25, 2022 5:52 AM
I may have to revaluate my position but at the moment an Alco PA really doesn’t factor in my model railroad plans.
 
If it did though…
D & H PA by Bear, on Flickr
 
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Posted by richhotrain on Saturday, June 25, 2022 5:55 AM

Ed, that first photo confirms my thinking. The PA looks oversized, bulky, and dimensionally incorrect for a locomotive of that overall size.

Rich

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Posted by gmpullman on Saturday, June 25, 2022 7:32 AM

richhotrain
Ed, that first photo confirms my thinking.

Take another look at that top photo, Rich. That ain't no Alco.

Heres the same model painted for seaboard.

 Seaboard Air Line Baldwin DR-6-4-15 2702 by Craig Garver, on Flickr

There's another NYC photo of the "Babyfaced Baldwin here:

https://www.american-rails.com/3200.html

 

Just be glad Alco went back to the drawing board after the homely looking DL series!

 GM&O, Meridian, Mississippi, 1955 by Center for Railroad Photography & Art, on Flickr3

 

 New Haven Alco DL-109 in Warm Orange-Pinstripes by David Rider, on Flickr

Beauty is in the eye — as they say.

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Posted by richhotrain on Saturday, June 25, 2022 7:50 AM

Sorry, Ed. I am all screwed up. I normally use my laptop, but this morning I tried to use my smart phone. lt may be smart, but I sure am not.

The photo that I meant to refer to was that first NYC photo that you posted late night. My bad. Embarrassed

Rich

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Posted by dieselsmoke on Saturday, June 25, 2022 7:57 AM

For me, if it has flanged wheels on steel rails, it's beautiful!

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Posted by wrench567 on Saturday, June 25, 2022 8:12 AM

   For me it would be the pinstripe on the dark green locomotive enamel.

        Pete.

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Posted by philo426 on Saturday, June 25, 2022 8:21 AM

My Atheran Blue Box Pennsylvania PA-1 set I bought new in 1984. Rick solid reliable performance.   

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Posted by Bayway Terminal on Saturday, June 25, 2022 10:38 AM

Great selections guys, thanks for your imput. I have given up on waiting for Rapidos PA's to arrive in the US, so now i'm planning an expansion of my modern day layout that will include a histrorical /excursion section consiting of a few new brass steam & diesel engines togehter with some coaches. Division Point's SP PA2 in Daylight colors is on the agenda as possible pre-order. The engine proto type photo is shown below, any SP fans out there?  Bayway Terminal NJ 

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Saturday, June 25, 2022 11:20 AM

Bayway Terminal
The engine proto type photo is shown below, any SP fans out there?

I do not recall ever seeing a PA with a plow on it before.

They even extended the lower pinstripe onto the plow... neat.

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Posted by PRR8259 on Saturday, June 25, 2022 6:48 PM

I must go with Santa Fe red warbonnet, first.

However, for me the Rio Grande gold and silver schemes are a close second.  Always loved them too.

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Posted by hjQi on Saturday, June 25, 2022 9:03 PM

PRR8259
I must go with Santa Fe red warbonnet

Same here. Santa Fe first. My next is Southern Pacific...

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Posted by gmpullman on Saturday, June 25, 2022 9:15 PM

SeeYou190
I do not recall ever seeing a PA with a plow on it before.

The S-P PAs on the City of San Francisco had plows. Just maybe not tall enough ?

 

 

Respectfully, Ed

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Posted by OldEngineman on Saturday, June 25, 2022 9:32 PM

The D&H blue re-working of the Santa Fe scheme is the one I like best. Much more elegant and less brash that the Santa Fe red...

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Posted by Colorado Ray on Sunday, June 26, 2022 11:05 AM

Bayway Terminal

Great selections guys, thanks for your imput. I have given up on waiting for Rapidos PA's to arrive in the US, so now i'm planning an expansion of my modern day layout that will include a histrorical /excursion section consiting of a few new brass steam & diesel engines togehter with some coaches. Division Point's SP PA2 in Daylight colors is on the agenda as possible pre-order. The engine proto type photo is shown below, any SP fans out there?  Bayway Terminal NJ 

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Posted by HO-Velo on Sunday, June 26, 2022 1:44 PM

Bayway Terminal

Great selections guys, thanks for your imput. I have given up on waiting for Rapidos PA's to arrive in the US, so now i'm planning an expansion of my modern day layout that will include a histrorical /excursion section consiting of a few new brass steam & diesel engines togehter with some coaches. Division Point's SP PA2 in Daylight colors is on the agenda as possible pre-order. The engine proto type photo is shown below, any SP fans out there?  Bayway Terminal NJ 

Southern Pacific PA-1 Train Photo Print for Sale

 

Wowee!  As an old 'east bay boy' I love that shot in so many ways.  A thousand feet east of San Francisco bay is 6020 at Berkeley, Ca., heading southbound towards Emeryville and Oakland, Ca. 

Big sign in the background was on Fourth St.  Berkeley Pumps, famous for their marine jet-drive units, a good friend worked his machinist apprenticeship there.  I worked a few blocks away at Johnson Gear and my father grew up on Fifth St.   

Thanks for the memories and Regards, Peter

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Posted by Bayway Terminal on Monday, June 27, 2022 3:11 PM

I knew there would be a SP fan out there, glad you liked the photo in more ways than one. Bayway Terminal NJ

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