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Extra weight in HO scale BLI coaches

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Posted by doctorwayne on Monday, March 14, 2022 11:00 AM

VukSol
I want to see if I can modify the coaches by adding extra weight into them, but I'm having difficulty finding where to put these weights and which types to use. Does anyone have any tips and/or ideas on how to provide extra weight in my BLI P70 coaches? What to use and where to put them?

It's actually pretty easy to make your own weights, customised to whatever size and/or shape that is needed.  There's a thread HERE that outlines the process.

Wayne

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Posted by doctorwayne on Sunday, March 13, 2022 11:20 PM

I'm not at all familiar with the BLI cars, but I put extra weight in all of my rolling stock.
For passenger cars, I have Rivarossi, Athearn, Model Die Casting, and Branchline (now Atlas).

I usually cast my own weights, using scrap wheel-balancing weights, often available free from tire and alignment shops.

Here are some locations, mentioned earlier, where weight can be added...

Wash rooms, with their frosted windows, are a good place to add weight...

...as are the smaller washrooms in combines, along with the baggage compartment, which usually has smaller windows, or no windows at all...

This shortened Rivarossi combine, formerly a dining car, has weights in the mid-car washrooms, and also on the underside of the roof...

This one was originally a Rivarossi model of a Santa Fe  combine, but I turned it into my version of a doodlebug....

I used an Athearn diesel truck and a Mashimi can motor to make it self-propelled, then added a considerable amount of lead to ensure that it could also pull a couple of additional cars...

At just a bit under a pound-and-a-half, it can pull better than some of my better steamers.
All of the weighted cars track very well.

Wayne

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Posted by wrench567 on Sunday, March 13, 2022 7:06 PM

  Before adding weight there are other things to consider. Are the curves too sharp for the design of the cars? Are they pulling the cars off because the couplers don't have enough swing? Are the trucks hitting the body? Too fast for the curve? Are these the longest cars? Are the trucks warped or stiff in the turning?

  What I'm getting at, is adding weight might not solve the problem. It may cause other issues.

      Pete.

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Posted by Trainman440 on Sunday, March 13, 2022 6:52 PM

This reply isnt very helpful, but I personally didnt have issues with BLI coaches on even tight curves that are properly laid. Even if they were to derail, I dont think additional weight will help much, since its a track issue not a car weight issue. 

If you must add weights without having them be visible through the windows, your best bet will be to either stick flat weights into the ceiling somehow, or hidden inside the bathroom where the tinted windows wont make the weights super obvious. 

Good luck!

Charles

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Extra weight in HO scale BLI coaches
Posted by VukSol on Sunday, March 13, 2022 2:40 PM

So I have these two HO scale P70 passenger coaches from Broadway Limited. However, they are prone to derailments in certain curved areas of my oval layout. I adjusted the curves so they are perfectly leveled and aren't bent in any odd ways, and the effect is noticeable. My P70 coaches aren't derailing as much anymore, but they still do from time to time. 

I want to see if I can modify the coaches by adding extra weight into them, but I'm having difficulty finding where to put these weights and which types to use. Does anyone have any tips and/or ideas on how to provide extra weight in my BLI P70 coaches? What to use and where to put them? Any tips would be great.

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