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Fluting
Posted by garya on Tuesday, December 7, 2021 10:30 PM

I am looking for fluting for a project.  I have an E7 shell and I need fluting for this locomotive:

 

The fluting was 31 1/4 high, I believe. I have a description of a product, union Station Products item FSP004.  Union station doesn't seem to have this product anymore.  Anyone know a good substitute?

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Posted by hon30critter on Tuesday, December 7, 2021 10:42 PM

Hi Gary,

How about buying a passenger car shell and using the fluting from that?

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/265438060306?hash=item3dcd575f12:g:dP4AAOSwWFhhrRb0

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Posted by 7j43k on Tuesday, December 7, 2021 10:48 PM

Looking closely at the corrugated metal on the side of the Frisco loco, the fluting looks to be alternating high and low.  That's be tough to match.

If you can tolerate "regular" corrugation, you might use the corrugated metal that is used on the kits by Alpine Scale Models.  I believe it once was available as long sheets.  You could write to the company and see if you could get some.  It's tin plated steel, so it MIGHT look just right.

 

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Posted by doctorwayne on Tuesday, December 7, 2021 11:04 PM

Evergreen offers corrugated siding in styrene, with a variety of widths in the corrugations.

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Posted by gmpullman on Wednesday, December 8, 2021 5:28 AM

As noted the "Pullman Profile" was different from the process udes by Budd. I have a couple of Walthers, Pullman coaches that I had scrapped a while back. There are usable sections of fluting or cladding that could possibly be incorporated into your E-7 project. Pullman and ACF "clipped" the cladding onto a Cor-Ten substrate. Budd "Shot-Welded" their side panels directly to the framework. I'm betting EMD used the Pullman fluting.

 Pullman_Clad-SP by Edmund, on Flickr

The thickness is .061. I'd suggest you have three possible choices.

A: secure the molding face down maybe with double sided tape and mill some of the back side away until it is thin enough to apply over your E7 side panels.

B: Carefully trim and file away the side panels of the E7 shell and fit in the full thickness of these fluted panels. Probably the best choice.

C: Use extra-heavy aluminum foil and form your own fluting using a stylus to press the foil into the grooves. Might take a few trys but you could probably come up with some decent pieces that could be fit onto the sides of the E7. Results might be a little fragile but the real stuff was too.

 Pullman_Clad by Edmund, on Flickr

Send me a PM with your address if you'd like me to mail you these pieces to experiment with. The usable height from the belt rail to the top of the skirting is .357".

Good Luck, Ed

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Posted by garya on Wednesday, December 8, 2021 8:31 PM

gmpullman
The thickness is .061. I'd suggest you have three possible choices. A: secure the molding face down maybe with double sided tape and mill some of the back side away until it is thin enough to apply over your E7 side panels. B: Carefully trim and file away the side panels of the E7 shell and fit in the full thickness of these fluted panels. Probably the best choice. C: Use extra-heavy aluminum foil and form your own fluting using a stylus to press the foil into the grooves. Might take a few trys but you could probably come up with some decent pieces that could be fit onto the sides of the E7. Results might be a little fragile but the real stuff was too. Pullman_Clad by Edmund, on Flickr Send me a PM with your address if you'd like me to mail you these pieces to experiment with. The usable height from the belt rail to the top of the skirting is .357".

Thanks for the offer, Ed, and the advice.   I may take you up on it.  I sent an email to Union Station Products, and they replied and I hope to find something that will work.

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Posted by garya on Monday, April 4, 2022 6:28 PM

gmpullman
Send me a PM with your address if you'd like me to mail you these pieces to experiment with. The usable height from the belt rail to the top of the skirting is .357". Good Luck, Ed

I haven't had much luck sending a PM.  Can you send one to me?

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Posted by gmpullman on Monday, April 4, 2022 8:54 PM

garya
I haven't had much luck sending a PM.  Can you send one to me?

You can find my email address in my profile. But, sure, I'll send you a PM to see if that works, too.

 M_R-profile by Edmund, on Flickr

Regards, Ed

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Monday, April 4, 2022 9:57 PM

Take some old computer ribbon wire. The connector has 40 pins but the ribbon has 80 conductors. Cut thqt to the size and shape you require, paint it silver, and aafix it to the locomotive. Some sort of glue I suppose.

 

Here I have used this material to make the corregated wall at Dyckman Street. I attached it to the wall with sillycone cauk before painting it. I do sloppy work. (What the heck--I *am* a LION with big furry paws!)

But this is all to the better as it is more prototymical this way.

 

The Route of the Broadway Lion The Largest Subway Layout in North Dakota.

Here there be cats.                                LIONS with CAMERAS

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Posted by Bayway Terminal on Thursday, April 7, 2022 11:45 AM

Alpine Corregated Paper  #1001 Corrugated Aluminum Paper   I used this product kit bashing a Yard Cafe Diner to simulate Stainlees Steel, very please with it.  Bayway Terminal NJ

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