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Whisker wire question

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Posted by Bayway Terminal on Sunday, December 12, 2021 11:15 AM

I originally thouht they were made from copper?   Bayway Terminal

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Posted by Bayway Terminal on Sunday, December 12, 2021 11:10 AM

Same here with regard to the knuckle springs, most all of my engines & rolling stock on my layout have Kadee Whisker's and all of the cars comply with NMRA weight standards, luckly i have yet to have one fail due to spring wires, although this may be because the 3'x14' switching layout is at the same track level and i seldom exceed 9MPH-15MPH after uncoupling & shunting cars onto their respective sidings.

I assume conventual Box Spring Kadee's work better for Hump Yard operations, perhaps someone can confrim as such.  Bayway Terminal NJ

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Posted by 2ManyHobbeez on Saturday, December 11, 2021 8:16 PM

Pretty sure the whiskers are made of Nitinol.

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Friday, December 3, 2021 9:52 PM

From what I can find on the Kadee site, they just call them "Whisker Springs" and nothing about the actual material they are made from.

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Posted by 2ManyHobbeez on Friday, December 3, 2021 9:14 AM

tstage

George,

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but I think Kadee uses carbon fiber for their whisker coupler spring wire.  I measured the OD of the wire and it's 0.005", which would make it 36 AWG.

Tom

 

I wish I could find a source for this stuff. The smallest CF rod that I can find so far is .010.

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Thursday, December 2, 2021 9:05 PM

gmpullman
Looking over past invoices, I see I've purchased at least 200 whisker couplers. Haven't had one fail yet.

Same here. Not one single failure.

I have never injured myself with a Kade coupler either!

Laugh

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Posted by dennis461 on Thursday, December 2, 2021 3:56 PM

I've got one broken, do not remember how. Just remember, nothing is unbreakable.

 

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Posted by 2ManyHobbeez on Thursday, December 2, 2021 1:59 PM

The OP, namely me is not the one reporting the failures. The OP is just seeking data about the whiskers prior to embarking on yet another technical goose chase. I don't see how they could fail either, at least the whisker part.

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Posted by hornblower on Thursday, December 2, 2021 1:42 PM

I have also purchased, installed and frequently use over 150 Kadee #148 couplers and have never had a whisker fail.  Is the OP installing them correctly?  I can't see how even bashing cars together when coupling would put enough strain on a whisker to break it!  Break the coupler, coupler box, freight car, yes!  Break the whisker, no!

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Posted by gmpullman on Thursday, December 2, 2021 1:24 PM

jjdamnit
I have had numerous "whiskers" fail on Kadee couplers.

 

That sure seems like a high failure rate. It will be interesting to see what Kadee's diagnosis is.

 

Looking over past invoices, I see I've purchased at least 200 whisker couplers. Haven't had one fail yet. I've pinched a few in the draft gear covers and poked my finger on the sharp ends but never had one fail — yet.

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Posted by doctorwayne on Thursday, December 2, 2021 12:34 PM

I would have thought the whiskers to be steel, but they're definitely not attracted to a strong magnet.  I got a dial-caliper reading of a .004" diameter.

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Posted by ricktrains4824 on Thursday, December 2, 2021 12:23 PM

Only "failure" of Kadee's I've ever had were the knuckle springs popping off and sailing to "never-never (gonna find them again) land."

Except for 1 that arrived with a snapped shank. But out of literally dozens, only one.

Never had a whisker break or fail.

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Thursday, December 2, 2021 12:16 PM

Since normal non-hisker Kadees never fail, I'm be interested in how many of the whiskers you have to get that many failures.

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Posted by 2ManyHobbeez on Thursday, December 2, 2021 11:52 AM

Did the whiskers break or come loose?

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Posted by jjdamnit on Thursday, December 2, 2021 11:28 AM

Hello All,

I have had numerous "whiskers" fail on Kadee couplers.

There is no practical way to replace them.

When I contacted Kadee about the failures and they were only interested in inspecting the couplers that both whiskers failed.

I sent them over 17 couplers with whisker failures.

All the failed whisker-type couplers were retrofitted with #5s.

Hope this helps.

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Posted by 2ManyHobbeez on Thursday, December 2, 2021 11:22 AM

tstage

George,

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but I think Kadee uses carbon fiber for their whisker coupler spring wire.  I measured the OD of the wire and it's 0.005", which would make it 36 AWG.

Tom

 

That's interesting. I didn't know CF wire even existed.

Thanks

George

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Posted by tstage on Thursday, December 2, 2021 10:10 AM

George,

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but I think Kadee uses carbon fiber for their whisker coupler spring wire.  I measured the OD of the wire and it's 0.005", which would make it 36 AWG.

Tom

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Whisker wire question
Posted by 2ManyHobbeez on Thursday, December 2, 2021 9:56 AM

Does anybody know the AWG and especially the type of the wire used in Kadee whisker couplers?

Thanks

George

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