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0-4-0 identification
Posted by NVSRR on Sunday, October 3, 2021 4:44 PM

SO I got this and thought it was a GEM model So I got this little brass 0-4-0 thinking it was a GEM model.  afte rlooking at other Gem, I find it is not a GEM. missing to many details that show no signs of ever being applied.  The backhead gives away that it isnt a GEM.   not sure who made it.

The motor runs well now that it is clean  It is a 5 pole.  Does it look familiar to anybody as specific to a manufacturer?

 

SHane

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Posted by Trainman440 on Sunday, October 3, 2021 10:33 PM

Hi, assuming this site is correct, I think its a tetsudo mokei sha made brass camelback. The giveaways are the vertically mounted motor, the lack of rivets on the tender, the non see-through spokes on the drivers, and the odd brake cylinders on the rear. 

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/tetsudo-mokei-sha-4-camelback-painted-537094686

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Posted by gregc on Monday, October 4, 2021 3:43 AM

GEM Reading A-5

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Posted by NVSRR on Monday, October 4, 2021 11:04 AM

Next question,  detail kits like bowser used to do?  Haven't found any detail sets by any maker for steam.   Any ideas besides eBay?

shane

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Posted by Wolf359 on Monday, October 4, 2021 11:07 AM

I found it on BrassTrains' brass guide. It was built by Tetsudo and imported by TMS. https://brasstrains.com/BrassGuide/Pdg/Detail/44163/HO-Steam-Non-Articulated-TMS-Switcher-Misc-Roads-0-4-0 

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Posted by dknelson on Monday, October 4, 2021 11:41 AM

NVSRR

Next question,  detail kits like bowser used to do?  Haven't found any detail sets by any maker for steam.   Any ideas besides eBay?

shane 

Detail sets - meaning someone with knowledge put together the selection of detail parts that a particular locomotive needs -- are nice to haves but sometimes what is needed is your own research and study.  Linn Westcott's classic Locomotive Cyclopedia for Kalmbach has introductory pages on steam locomotive parts and appliances that are useful for at least knowing what the names of the things are.  Then finding old Kemtron, Precision Scale, Cal-Scale, Selley, Bowser, Lee Town, Arbour, Precision Investments (PIA), and the like parts lists will help

The Walthers catalog is no longer your friend because they've made no bones about extracting themselves from being a small parts supplier.  But an OLDER Walthers catalog -- I knew there was a reason I kept savings those things -- might at least suggest what it is you should be looking for at swap meets and train shows.

Don't forget Greenway which has long been a little known resource for brass parts

http://www.greenwayproducts.com/index.php?dispatch=categories.view&category_id=19

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Posted by Trainman440 on Monday, October 4, 2021 12:27 PM

Bowser only made detail sets for their own diecast loco kits. Never for other locos.

You'll have to go through the cal scale and psc catalog, figure out what items you want to add (Compare it to prototype photos) and add it accordingly

....or give up and buy an actual gem model, cause, to tell you the truth, that thing looks almost unsavable. 

Charles

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Posted by NVSRR on Monday, October 11, 2021 6:45 PM

 Now that it is stripped, looks like the paint was used as glue.  That painty job was horrid.  measurable thick in alot of patches too. The thin areas stripped off in about three hours.   just disolved. Those thick areas took 36 hourss to dissolve. But it is completely clean and already looks better than when I started.   With the motor clean and spins on 2 volts, This is now just a detailing and painting project.  Except for the insulation for dcc wiring. Next weekend will tell more

Thos dark spots are solder stains, not paint 

SHane

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