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Hornby 00 scale Stanier Coronation passenger coach review

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Hornby 00 scale Stanier Coronation passenger coach review
Posted by Darth Santa Fe on Saturday, September 4, 2021 8:35 PM

I got a set of these for my DJH Coronation, and was impressed enough that I thought I'd do a review!

If anyone needs replacement extended diaphragms like I did, here's a 3D print file: Extended replacement diaphragm for new Hornby Stanier coaches by DarthSantaFe - Thingiverse

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Posted by Southgate 2 on Sunday, September 5, 2021 1:00 AM

I enjoyed your review, Darth. These will probably be more popular across the pond, but it's fun to see a nice passenger train rolling smoothly along regardless of where it's from. Dan

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Posted by hon30critter on Sunday, September 5, 2021 1:01 AM

Hi Darth,

Lovely cars. Thanks for the interesting review.

Dave

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Posted by NorthBrit on Sunday, September 5, 2021 6:10 AM

Hi Darth.  An interesting review.  Thanks

It's making me think about getting some carriages for my locomotive.

 

 

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Posted by M636C on Sunday, September 5, 2021 9:06 AM

It is interesting that Hornby chose the "Coronation Scot" coaches and that they relased the whole train of nine cars. This is consistent with the recent practice by Walthers and MTH for US Prototypes but is rare for a major manufacturer in the UK.

Hornby have released standard Stanier coaches painted for the Coronation Scot previously but these were not correct prototypes and lacked the distinctive air conditioning ducts on the roof of the sitting cars.

However, no ready to run model of the LNER Gresley streamlined trains has been released. While the  Coronation Scot gained more publicity in 1937, there were five Gresley trains, four of which were identical. THese worked the Coronation (two sets) the West Riding Limited (one set) and one spare set which was used for the Silver Jubilee when required. The spare set was used on the world record run by Mallard in July 1938.

Of course, Hornby may be intending to release an LNER streamliner set in future...

But given the popularity of models of the A4 compared to streamlined "Coronations" it is surprising that no LNER streamliner models have been released, let alone a full set like this Hornby "Coronation Scot".

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Posted by Overmod on Sunday, September 5, 2021 11:08 AM

I confess that I am waiting for someone to produce a red set of Coronation Scot coaches, complete with observation car, perhaps to match the set sent to the United States with "6220" just before the war.

I second the comment about there being no streamlined equivalent for LNER -- even the abbreviated set used for Mallard's "brake test" ought to be a popular item for many of those owning the locomotive, myself included...

As Hornby has made something of a name for themselves marketing 'sets' with particular engines and cars together, this would indeed be a very logical project to follow up with.

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Posted by gmpullman on Monday, September 6, 2021 12:14 AM

Southgate 2
These will probably be more popular across the pond, but it's fun to see a nice passenger train rolling smoothly along regardless of where it's from.

I would certainly run the Red "North American Tour" version, with bell and headlight, if one were ever produced.


The ''Coronation Scot," crack flyer of the London Midland and Scottish Railway, will visit Schenectady in connection with its 3,121-mile tour over eight American systems prior to going on exhibit in the New York World's Fair...

The train is en route to the United States aboard the S.S. Belpamela. It will be unloaded at Baltimore and reassembled for its tour over American railroads.

In addition to Schenectady, the cities in which the train will be exhibited include:

Baltimore, Washington, Wilmington, Philadelphia, Lancaster, Harrisburg, Pittsburgh, Wheeling, Columbus, Dayton, Cincinnati, Louisville, Indianapolis, Terre Haute, St. Louis, Springfield, Chicago, Kalamazoo, Battle Creek, Detroit, Toledo, Cleveland, Akron, Youngstown, Erie, Buffalo, Rochester, Syracuse, Utica, Albany, Springfield, Worcester, Boston, Providence, Hartford, New Haven and New York City.


 Schenectady Gazette, February 10, 1939

 

In reply to your question posted at YouTube, which didn't like me adding a link, I found this interesting site which includes some interior photos showing electric lighting used:

https://www.brightontoymuseum.co.uk/index/Category:Coronation_Scot_1939

Nice work, Darth! Thanks for posting this.

Cheers, Ed

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Posted by NorthBrit on Monday, September 6, 2021 5:06 AM

Ed.  Red ones were made  for the U.K. market.

 

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Posted by gmpullman on Monday, September 6, 2021 7:40 AM

NorthBrit
Ed.  Red ones were made  for the U.K. market.

Would this be the little kit?

https://www.ebay.ie/itm/284354979263?hash=item4234e0a5bf:g:6AsAAOSwmztg3cy6

Tempting Smile

Thank you, Ed

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Posted by NorthBrit on Monday, September 6, 2021 8:46 AM

That is the one Ed.  There are other locomotives in the class.  I know there is a model of King George V1  locomotive in maroon.   I lost out on a bid on one.

 

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Posted by gmpullman on Monday, September 6, 2021 5:22 PM

NorthBrit
That is the one Ed.

Well, as of this morning there's another Coronation Scot coming across the Pond Whistling plus one additional carriage. I know they aren't 100% accurate for the 1939 visit but close enough for me. I have several photos of the train running on the B&O and the New York Central so there's my excuse Wink

Thanks for your help, Dave.

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Posted by NorthBrit on Tuesday, September 7, 2021 4:29 AM

My pleasure, Ed.

 

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Posted by Overmod on Tuesday, September 7, 2021 8:22 AM

NorthBrit
I know there is a model of King George V1  locomotive in maroon.

What in tarnation could this actually be?  Surely not the Swindon King George V... and isn't it supposed to be 'lake' and not 'maroon' for the red color?

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Posted by NorthBrit on Tuesday, September 7, 2021 8:26 AM

Overmod

 NorthBrit

I know there is a model of King George V1  locomotive in maroon.

 

What in tarnation could this actually be?  Surely not the Swindon King George V... and isn't it supposed to be 'lake' and not 'maroon' for the red color?   

 

Many people here  say the colour is maroon for Crimson Lake.    It is not a GWR King Class locomotive.

37  Locomotives were built.   The class was subdivided.  5 locomotives were 'Coronation Class'.   10  were 'Duchess Class'   and 22 'City  Class'.

https://uk.hornby.com/products/lms-princess-coronation-class-4-6-2-6244-king-george-vi-era-3-r3639

 

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Posted by Overmod on Tuesday, September 7, 2021 9:18 AM

Thank you.  That '1' in place of 'I' had me wretchedly confused.

Those Stanier Pacifics are among my favorite locomotives.  That includes the Princesses.  It had escaped me that one of the Cities was renamed (as late as 1941!) to commemorate the new Sovereign.

To me, using 'Crimson Lake' correctly is like using 'Tuscan Red' or 'DGLE' for colors on PRR here. As much a 'respect' thing as a precise color reference.  You will notice that I did slangily refer not even to maroon but just 'red' earlier -- 'don't do as I do, do as I say'... Smile

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