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Stopped by my fav hobby shop today..score!!

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Stopped by my fav hobby shop today..score!!
Posted by emdmike on Saturday, March 27, 2021 11:27 PM

Had to go to Indianapolis today to pick up a piece of furniature we ordered that finally came in.  Then headed to my favorate hobby shop, Train Central, while we were down there.  This shop is great for getting in estates of both newer and much older trains included brass and all scales other than G.   In the display case was this beautiful, near mint in the box Gem models by Guild of Japan PRR M1b mountain, even has all the original packing material and warranty card for $225.  Runs smooth and quiet despite no attention yet to the gear box or lubricating this ancient import.  Amp draw was .5 running and 1.0 at full stall, not bad at all.  Headlight even is lighted and directional, not something found on most brass imports but was common on Gem imports back then.  I also found and bought a nice wood kit of a wood side head end reefer with CV sprung trucks, nicely built and painted for PRR.  Both from the same estate.  I highly recommend stopping by this shop if your in the area, you never know what you will find and it changes constantly as things sell and more collections come in.  Mike the Aspie

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Posted by Southgate 2 on Saturday, March 27, 2021 11:36 PM

Wow, that's beautiful.  Nice score. 

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Saturday, March 27, 2021 11:43 PM

Nice find Mike.

I hope to get back to Train Central in a couple of months... we will see.

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Posted by Little Timmy on Saturday, March 27, 2021 11:56 PM

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ya gotta love finding Gold. Especially when you weren't even looking for it. 

Ok, ... I'm a "little" jealous....

 

Ok ... a lot jealous ...... 

Nice find !

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Posted by NorthBrit on Sunday, March 28, 2021 4:45 AM

Lovely looking model emdmike.   A great find.

 

My local model store has been closed since lockdown.  I hope he opens when things can get back to normal.    

 

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Posted by PC101 on Sunday, March 28, 2021 2:45 PM

It's nice to find items like this and give it a home. Makes you wonder how much run time it has had over the years. I can see the siderod bolts/screws/crankpins are a bit chewed out.

Look at that that rear axel/wheel/journal on the front tender truck. Something does not look right.

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Posted by emdmike on Sunday, March 28, 2021 3:41 PM

She has pretty good wheel wear but side rod wear is minimal.  I have her torn down on the bench for a full service and maybe update to a can motor I have on hand.  The chassis free wheels on a plate of glass with zero binds, so despite the wheel wear, its very free rolling. It looks like someone used to small of a screw driver at one time on the side rod screws.  I have dressed them with a jewelers file now, so they look much better.  I love early brass and am always looking for more to buy, especially PRR stuff.   Mike

 

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Posted by PC101 on Sunday, March 28, 2021 4:44 PM

emdmike

 

 It looks like someone used to small of a screw driver at one time on the side rod screws.  I have dressed them with a jewelers file now, so they look much better.  I love early brass and am always looking for more to buy, especially PRR stuff.   Mike

 

 

Have you ever LIGHTLY tapped with a very small hammer the out of placed screw head/slot metal back in place? Doing this only when the screw head/slot metal is deformed with a screwdriver, and not missing.

I'm Just thinking,  Having that much wheel ware and still in her ''original dress''.Smile

 

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Posted by maxman on Sunday, March 28, 2021 6:15 PM

PC101

It's nice to find items like this and give it a home. Makes you wonder how much run time it has had over the years. I can see the siderod bolts/screws/crankpins are a bit chewed out.

Look at that that rear axel/wheel/journal on the front tender truck. Something does not look right.

 

Gee, nothing like sticking a pin into someone’s happy, happy, joy bubble.

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Posted by emdmike on Sunday, March 28, 2021 7:12 PM

It doesn't phase me, minor issues like buggered up screw slots from previous owners is just part of the models history.  And easily cleaned up a bit with a jewelers file.  Some seem to forget how old these are, this one dates from 1961, lots of water under the bridge since then.  With the plating wore thru so that brass is showing on the driver tread, lots of scale miles as well.  With a new Namiki coreless motor, she will just crawl right now. The only thing I cannot do well with brass is paint it nicely.  That I do need help with.  

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Posted by PC101 on Sunday, March 28, 2021 8:24 PM

maxman
 
PC101

It's nice to find items like this and give it a home. Makes you wonder how much run time it has had over the years. I can see the siderod bolts/screws/crankpins are a bit chewed out.

Look at that that rear axel/wheel/journal on the front tender truck. Something does not look right.

 

 

 

Gee, nothing like sticking a pin into someone’s happy, happy, joy bubble.

 

maxman this is where my thoughts were.  

If someone buys a really cool vintage Brass Engine and runs it down the track before a full Inspection and that Tender loses an axle, well that person may just wish he found that problem first.

My Apologies to you emdmike.

 

      

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Posted by emdmike on Sunday, March 28, 2021 11:02 PM

No worries,  I have owned, enjoyed and tinkered with brass since I was 15 yrs old and I am 48 now.  I had shifted all of my locomotive fleet to all brass before I was 20.  The tinkering and tuning of them is half my enjoyment in the hobby.  I do it for others and a couple hobby shops when they get in a piece needing attention, remotoring or DCC install.  I just dont use DCC myself, but that may change here shortly.  The Namiki really needs DCC to preform at its best and sound would be a nice upgrade.  Mike

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Posted by KitbashOn30 on Monday, March 29, 2021 4:32 AM

Now that was a pretty neat find! I have always thought Mountains were a nice looking locomotive wheel arrangement.

Good point you make about the model's history, it is a kind of biography, too.

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Monday, March 29, 2021 7:57 AM

KitbashOn30
I have always thought Mountains were a nice looking locomotive wheel arrangement.

I do also. And since they were used in both freight and passenger service, they are just good to have around.

This is my favorite Mountain in my collection.

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Posted by emdmike on Monday, March 29, 2021 1:50 PM

Thats a good looking Mountain!  The president of the old local train club, now closed up and he has passed on, had one of the Knapp/Bowser cast brass Mountains.  That thing ran dead silent with its original open frame motor and could pull a house down.  But had zero coast, kill the power and it would slide to a stop if not stop instantly.  I built a Bowser PRR M1a Mountain years ago, ran it all the time at that local club, was a great puller.  I superdetailed a Bowser PRR N5C caboose for the rear of my train, antenna kit and all. Now I just want a brass N8 or N5c with the antennas on it.  Not sure I have the patience to detail out the Bowser kit anymore.  I do need to add the antenna to the tender on my M1b however.    Mike

 

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Monday, March 29, 2021 4:39 PM

emdmike
The president of the old local train club, now closed up and he has passed on, had one of the Knapp/Bowser cast brass Mountains.  That thing ran dead silent with its original open frame motor and could pull a house down.

Funny you should say that.

When I was a teen, the founding president of Scale Rails Of Southwest Florida had a Bowser 4-6-6-4 that he built from a kit that was the best running steam locomotive that I had seen up to that time.

It also had no coast.

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Posted by emdmike on Tuesday, March 30, 2021 10:27 AM

I built several Bowser kits in my teens, including a Challenger that I paired with a Kemtron brass tender that I also built from a kit, a PRR M1a Mountain and a H10 2-8-0.  Shortly after, I bought my first brass and slowly sold/traded off the non brass engines to buy more of the brass ones.   

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