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Varities of metallic black paint
Posted by DSteckler on Tuesday, March 23, 2021 3:42 PM

What difference is there, if any, between Artiste acrylic metallic black; FolkArt acrylic metallic sequin black; and Ceramcoat acrylic metallic black pearl?

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Posted by rrebell on Tuesday, March 23, 2021 4:18 PM

You really need to go to a better quality paint for metalics, nom of those qualify.

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Tuesday, March 23, 2021 5:23 PM

DSteckler
What difference is there, if any, between Artiste acrylic metallic black; FolkArt acrylic metallic sequin black; and Ceramcoat acrylic metallic black pearl?

Just as a disclaimer... I have not used any of the specific paint colours you mentioned, and I have never used any paint from Artiste.

Folk Art metallic paints tend to be very thick, and the metal flakes are a bit larger than Delta Ceramcoat. Folk Art paints need to be thinned to get a smooth finish, and their metallic paints do not thin well, so I avoid them.

Delta Ceramcoat metallic paints are a bit easier to work with. I hope you have a good source for Delta paints. Down here the selection has become very limited. I have found Delta Ceramcoat metallic paints usually take two coats for good coverage, but black could be better.

My favorite metallic paints are Citadel, but they do not make a black colour. My second favorite metallic paint line is Turbo-Dork, and they have a much larger metallic colour selection, but again, no black.

Turbo-Dork does have "Six-Shooter Gray", which is pretty dark.

What are you using this colour for?

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Posted by DSteckler on Tuesday, March 23, 2021 8:39 PM

Thanks to both of you.  There's a fellow in the U.K. who does a masterful job of modeling "gunk" between the rails and on the ballast around engine yards, first smearing modeling clay along the ties and then painting on a mixture of talcum powder; Artiste metallic black; matte black; Vallejo gunmetal blue; and burnt umber.  The Artiste paint needs to be ordered from England, even through Amazon, and takes weeks to get to the U.S., that's why I was looking for an alternative.

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Posted by BigDaddy on Tuesday, March 23, 2021 9:00 PM

DSteckler
There's a fellow in the U.K. who does a masterful job of modeling "gunk" between the rails and on the ballast around engine yards, first smearing modeling clay along the ties and then painting on a mixture of talcum powder; Artiste metallic black; matte black; Vallejo gunmetal blue; and burnt umber.

I was wondering why metallic black would be needed on a MR. 

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Posted by Drumguy on Tuesday, March 23, 2021 9:24 PM

Dry brushing some cheap metallic black craft paint can do very subtle wonders. Black painted "metal" structures-- bridges, water towers, steel chimneys -- look great when you dry brush some silver or grey metallic to simulate where paint has weathered away, but sometimes that light color can be a bit too much. Dry brush a bit of metallic black and the light catches it just enough to indicate it wasn't painted last year. 

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Posted by DSteckler on Wednesday, March 24, 2021 8:58 AM

The modeler's name is Paul Owens.  Here's a photo of his showing the track when painted and finished using his technique.

 

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Posted by snjroy on Wednesday, March 24, 2021 9:07 AM

When you say difference, I assume you mean color. A lot of brands show the color on the top of the bottle. It's usually pretty close. When I have situations like that, I just buy them and do some tests. The result of the test will also depend on the lighting on your layout.

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Wednesday, March 24, 2021 11:19 AM

DSteckler
The modeler's name is Paul Owens.  Here's a photo of his showing the track when painted and finished using his technique.

Wow! That really does look like a dirty service area.

I would imagine any of the locally available craft metallic black paints could be used with his techniques.

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Posted by gmpullman on Wednesday, March 24, 2021 11:56 AM

DSteckler
The Artiste paint needs to be ordered from England, even through Amazon, and takes weeks to get to the U.S., that's why I was looking for an alternative.

Coincidence this just came up.

I have been working on a diesel facility the past few weeks too.

 Fuel-rack1 by Edmund, on Flickr

For most of the "gunk" I mixed a little Durham's Putty and added some artists tube acrylic Mars black to it.

I wanted to replicate spilled oil on wet ground so I was looking for an iridescent color. After several searches I came across this nail polish:


 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B089RDW54X/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


 

I've only made a small test spot. I'll try a larger application and get a photo of it as time permits.

 P-C_U25B by Edmund, on Flickr

In the '70s I don't recall ever seeing an "environmental friendly" fueling track! The gunk would stick to the soles of your shoes.

Good Luck, Ed

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Posted by DSteckler on Wednesday, March 24, 2021 3:54 PM

snjroy

When you say difference, I assume you mean color. A lot of brands show the color on the top of the bottle. It's usually pretty close. When I have situations like that, I just buy them and do some tests. The result of the test will also depend on the lighting on your layout.

Simon 

 

 

Thanks, Simon.  Once I receive the bottole of Ariste paint I'll buy the other two and compare.

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Posted by DSteckler on Wednesday, March 24, 2021 3:56 PM

gmpullman

 

 
DSteckler
The Artiste paint needs to be ordered from England, even through Amazon, and takes weeks to get to the U.S., that's why I was looking for an alternative.

 

Coincidence this just came up.

I have been working on a diesel facility the past few weeks too.

 Fuel-rack1 by Edmund, on Flickr

For most of the "gunk" I mixed a little Durham's Putty and added some artists tube acrylic Mars black to it.

I wanted to replicate spilled oil on wet ground so I was looking for an iridescent color. After several searches I came across this nail polish:


 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B089RDW54X/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


 

I've only made a small test spot. I'll try a larger application and get a photo of it as time permits.

 P-C_U25B by Edmund, on Flickr

In the '70s I don't recall ever seeing an "environmental friendly" fueling track! The gunk would stick to the soles of your shoes.

Good Luck, Ed

 

 

I like the nail polish idea, Ed.  Paul Ownen uses Das modeling clay and I picked up a block at Michael's.

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Posted by gmpullman on Thursday, March 25, 2021 1:33 AM

I didn't get a great photo but I do like the overall results of the nail polish I linked to above. The iridescent effect is pretty convincing and the glossiness is good to represent freshly spilled oil.

 Oil_Slick by Edmund, on Flickr

The spot between the rails is plain, black, gloss enamel.

Good Luck, Ed

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Posted by DSteckler on Thursday, March 25, 2021 6:59 AM

Looks great, Ed!

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