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Do You Gargle After Use?

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Posted by BATMAN on Monday, February 22, 2021 11:45 AM

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joe323
Isn't gargling after ops sessions a part of every model railroaders oral tradition

 

Back when I was attending operation sessions, I wish many of the participants would have gargled BEFORE!

-Kevin

 

Along with taking a shower and using deodorant.Ick!

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Monday, February 22, 2021 10:54 AM

joe323
Isn't gargling after ops sessions a part of every model railroaders oral tradition

Back when I was attending operation sessions, I wish many of the participants would have gargled BEFORE!

-Kevin

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Posted by joe323 on Monday, February 22, 2021 10:35 AM

Isn't gargling after ops sessions a part of every model railroaders oral tradition

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Posted by Overmod on Monday, February 22, 2021 3:04 AM

SeeYou190
I know several people, including many on-line tutorials, where the user chews the epoxy putty to mix it together.

I would never do that.

Well now, let's see...

PSI says to be sure to wear 'impermeable gloves' when you mix Green.  In case that is not enough hint, here is a quote from them:

• Contains Epoxy Resins. Epoxies are skin/eye irritants and known sensitizers. Direct product contact may cause an allergic reaction in some individuals. Avoid skin/eye contact. Wear impermeable gloves when mixing or handling uncured product.

• Inhalation of dust may be harmful. Avoid inhalation of dust. Wear dust mask and protective eyewear when sanding cured product.

• Ingestion of product may be harmful. Avoid ingestion.

 Milliput is a lot like an epoxy Mr White -- it loads the resin up with white clay.  The Milliput people say to 'avoid contact with skin, eyes, and clothing'.  In their helpful first-aid section:

Skin Contact

Wash with plenty of soap and water. Persons with known sensitivity to epoxy compounds should not be allowed to work with the product. If skin irritation occurs seek medical advice.

Eye Contact

Rinse immediately with water for at least 15 minutes and get medical attention immediately.

Inhalation

Move affected person to fresh air. In case of irritation to respiratory system or mucous membranes, or if you feel unwell or in case of prolonged exposure, get medical attention.

Ingestion

Immediately rinse the mouth with water. If swallowing has occurred drink plenty of water. Do not induce vomiting. Seek medical attention promptly.

 Now, I suppose some budding William Jefferson Clinton could say 'Well, I got it into my mouth without getting much on my fingers, and none in my eyes or on my clothes ... and I was careful not to swallow'.

It's dumb, people.  Really, really dumb.

 But be sure to gargle when done!

 

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Monday, February 22, 2021 2:50 AM

I know nothing of Mr White Putty.

PSI Kneadatite epoxy putty is used by wargamers and military modelers, and so is Milliput. These are two-part products that must be mixed.

I know several people, including many on-line tutorials, where the user chews the epoxy putty to mix it together.

I would never do that.

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Posted by Overmod on Monday, February 22, 2021 2:33 AM

maxman
Don't know what all the big chemical names mean, but maybe MEK will turn out to be safer.

Close; that '2-pentanone' is methyl propyl ketone, a little worse as a solvent and more expensive than MEK.  One suspects that if the carcinogenic mechanism that has been dogging discussions of MEK safety for 2 decades now is active in humans, it may apply to MPK as well.

The gargling may be related to the methyl amyl alcohol, which is a solvent for the, ah, cellulose nitrate.

4-methylethylbenzene is paraethyltoluene, another strategically substituted old friend on the solvent list.

2-propanol is just isopropyl alcohol.

The silicon dioxide is essentially finely-divided quartz; it's the 'white' in this stuff.  But the kicker is the cellulose nitrate... yes, that's guncotton.

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Posted by maxman on Sunday, February 21, 2021 11:49 PM

Okay, according to the label the stuff is manufactured by GSI Creos Corp, a Tokyo, Japan company.  You can Google them.

Contains: silicon dioxide;  2-pentanone; 4-hydroxy-4 methl-isobtyl alchole;  2-pentanone;  4-methly-etylbenzene;  2-propanol;  cellulose;  nitrate.

Hope I got all that correct.  As I mentioned, I had to look through a magnifying glass so I may have punctuated in the wrong places.

If anyone is really interested, there is an 800 number to call for info.  And the State of California warning doesn't look like a translation.

Don't know what all the big chemical names mean, but maybe MEK will turn out to be safer.

edit: you can also google Mr. White Putty, and there's a FineScaleModeler thread:

http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/general_discussion/f/9/t/83387.aspx

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Posted by ROBERT PETRICK on Sunday, February 21, 2021 8:10 PM

Okay, there have been some humorous comments about this. Might be a typo, might be a mistranslation of some sort.

Anybody have a big slice of Granny's cheese cake lately? Notice how there's sometimes a big glop of oily phlegm collected in your throat afterwards? Ever wonder why people have tonsils? Ever wonder if the two might be related?

In college back in the Stone Age, we used to transfer reagents in chem lab via things called mouth pipettes. Google it. Organics (particularly aromatics) would leave a taste in your nose/throat for days. The practice has long since been eliminated, but is still pretty common in third-world countries (such as China).

What y'all are looking at might be instructions that are translated correctly and are remnants of the packing material or some outsourced offshore version of the Material Specs.

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Posted by Track fiddler on Sunday, February 21, 2021 3:50 PM

I only gargled one time early in the morning and it caused a gag reflex!  

It ended up being blown all over the mirror like the "Fountain of Youth".

I can't quite remember the reason I thought I needed to gargle after what ever it was that I used.

I learned my lesson that day my friends,  As I have never gargled again since then eh!

 

 

 

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Posted by Overmod on Sunday, February 21, 2021 3:18 PM

selector
Probably Chinese.

I thought the 'Mr' products were Korean?

What an education, eh?

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Sunday, February 21, 2021 3:14 PM

I never gargle with Gorilla Glue after I use it on my hair.

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Posted by Ringo58 on Saturday, February 20, 2021 1:21 PM

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BATMAN
And don't forget to put bullets in your nose to protect your nasal lining.

 

Hey hoser!  Take-off, eh?

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Posted by doctorwayne on Saturday, February 20, 2021 1:10 PM

BATMAN
And don't forget to put bullets in your nose to protect your nasal lining.

Hey hoser!  Take-off, eh?

Wayne

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Posted by selector on Saturday, February 20, 2021 12:53 PM

It'is unfortunate that so many people find so little opportunity to include the craft in the legalese. Or, that they're merely incapable of, or indifferent to, that worthy combination. It is also unfortunate that people who would make such silly mistakes are the least likely to bother reading the caveats, or the least likely to understand them.

In this instance, tho', t'is a combination of a lack of vigilance or quality assurance and a foreigner's translation. Probably Chinese.

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Posted by BATMAN on Saturday, February 20, 2021 11:22 AM

And don't forget to put bullets in your nose to protect your nasal lining.

 

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Do You Gargle After Use?
Posted by maxman on Saturday, February 20, 2021 11:16 AM

Did not want to post this with the MEK controversy.

But was curious.

Purchased a tube of Mr. White Putty from Hobby Lobby and was reading the small print (needed a magnifying glass) safety precautions.  Along with the usual avoid ignition sources, provide adequate ventilation, wear protective gloves, et cetra stuff, it says "wash hands and gargle mouth thoroughly after use".

So my question is do I have to gargle after every use, or only after I chew the product?

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