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Posted by rrinker on Sunday, January 31, 2021 12:53 PM

maxman

 

 
rrinker
I've read thousands of books. I was an early adopter of e-books and read them on early small PDA devices, but really jumped into it with a proper size tablet.

 

I get books downloaded from the library and read them on an Ipad.  With the Ipad held vertically, it is almost like reading a real book.

Anything of a technical nature where there are drawings or diagrams referenced in the text is a different matter, especially when said drawings/diagrams are on different "pages" than the text.  I find it frustrating to scan back and forth on an electronic device.  With a real book I can easily flip back and forth by inserting a finger between the text page and the diagram page.  Since I'm old, this helps me get to the drawing from the text before I forget why I was going there.

 

 At least with the Kindle app and the built in Books app, there is a "go back to page" spot, you just tap there and it take you back - it's the virtual finger in a page. You cna also jump forward or backwards to a specific page, and then there is a mark left to return to the previous page so you can get back to where you were.

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Posted by hon30critter on Sunday, January 31, 2021 2:39 AM

OldEngineman
How does one enter the "From..." information into your profile? Is there a specific entry box for that? Can't seem to find it..

On the upper right portion of the forums page there should be a box that says "Welcome OldEngineman" and in the box there should be a "Change Avatar" option. When you click on that you should get a window on the right side that should allow you to input whatever data you want, like your location.

I use the word 'should' simply out of caution given the often quirky performance of the forum software. Not much seems to be entirely predictable these days.

Cheers!!

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Posted by OldEngineman on Saturday, January 30, 2021 9:55 PM

Forum seems to be working ok, but...

... How does one enter the "From..." information into your profile? Is there a specific entry box for that? Can't seem to find it...

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Posted by maxman on Saturday, January 30, 2021 8:35 PM

rrinker
I've read thousands of books. I was an early adopter of e-books and read them on early small PDA devices, but really jumped into it with a proper size tablet.

I get books downloaded from the library and read them on an Ipad.  With the Ipad held vertically, it is almost like reading a real book.

Anything of a technical nature where there are drawings or diagrams referenced in the text is a different matter, especially when said drawings/diagrams are on different "pages" than the text.  I find it frustrating to scan back and forth on an electronic device.  With a real book I can easily flip back and forth by inserting a finger between the text page and the diagram page.  Since I'm old, this helps me get to the drawing from the text before I forget why I was going there.

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Posted by doctorwayne on Saturday, January 30, 2021 7:39 PM

richhotrain
I have written you many times imploring you to gift Bertram's to me without any response from you whatsoever. The silence is deafening.

If I understand you correctly, Rich, it apparently hasn't yet arrived.  That may be on account of the closing of the U.S./Canada border or perhaps the fact that I included an alarm clock in the package, as I thought you to be asleep at the switch as far as sending me messages to which I can't reply.  Maybe the ticking has raised suspicions about the package. 
If there has been any recent news items in your area regarding authorities detonating suspicious in-transit items, we may have the answer as to why it's not yet arrived.
I had meant to send it earlier, but wanted to make a replica of the original for my own use, and that's the only delay for which I'll accept blame.

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Posted by ATLANTIC CENTRAL on Saturday, January 30, 2021 6:38 PM

rrinker

 

 
Lastspikemike

Digital only does not appeal to the generation raised on print media.

The current and past magazine format is designed to attract your attention to the advertising that actually makes the publication profitable. 

It is in the nature of digitally based advertising that it remains far less effective than in print media. 

Therefore, print media organizations are not likely to abandon their paper based format any time soon. 

 

 

 

 Maybe for you. I have fully embraced digital - I rarely even get physcial boosk any more, and I read a LOT. You do need the right device. A phone is too small to read books and magazines. And a desktop computer screen is too large.

 I started with the option to get MR with both a physical copy plus digital, but I quickly found out I was getting and reading the digital copy before the physical one even showed up. So for a few years now I have been digital only.

 I'm not sure what Sheldon is talking about with the 'busy' comment on MRH. They rarely put ads on the same page with actual content. And BTW there is a paid option with no ads at all - different articles and content come with that, plus the full content, with ads, of the free edition. And it's cheap.

 ANd I've read thousands of books. I was an early adopter of e-books and read them on early small PDA devices, but really jumped into it with a proper size tablet. At any moment, I have at least a dozen books on my tablet, but as long as I have an internet conenction, I can get a new one if I read them all and am away from home. Even with my eye issues, I have no problem reading the screen, and the tablet is lighter and thinner than most any paperback book, let along a heavy hardcover.

                                          --Randy

 

 

Douglas called it busy, not me. But I still have a hard time reading it.

Sheldon

    

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Posted by BigDaddy on Saturday, January 30, 2021 6:35 PM

Best to worry about the things you can change versus the things you can't.

Elon Musk could buy out Kalmbach, and give everyone of us a TESLA and a bitcoin and he would still be a billionaire.  Oprah gave away a lot of stuff, it might happen.   Wink

You could hope for that.

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Posted by RailEagle on Saturday, January 30, 2021 5:47 PM

Pruitt

I just tried to post a reply in a thread in the Layouts and Layout Construction forum and got a screen that said "403 Forbidden".

Turns out emoticons in a quote triggers this error. I removed those, and my reply posted fine.

This forum software is getting more corrupted all the time.

 

Ironically enough I got an error message trying to enter this thread. 

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Posted by rrinker on Saturday, January 30, 2021 5:01 PM

Lastspikemike

Digital only does not appeal to the generation raised on print media.

The current and past magazine format is designed to attract your attention to the advertising that actually makes the publication profitable. 

It is in the nature of digitally based advertising that it remains far less effective than in print media. 

Therefore, print media organizations are not likely to abandon their paper based format any time soon. 

 

 Maybe for you. I have fully embraced digital - I rarely even get physcial boosk any more, and I read a LOT. You do need the right device. A phone is too small to read books and magazines. And a desktop computer screen is too large.

 I started with the option to get MR with both a physical copy plus digital, but I quickly found out I was getting and reading the digital copy before the physical one even showed up. So for a few years now I have been digital only.

 I'm not sure what Sheldon is talking about with the 'busy' comment on MRH. They rarely put ads on the same page with actual content. And BTW there is a paid option with no ads at all - different articles and content come with that, plus the full content, with ads, of the free edition. And it's cheap.

 ANd I've read thousands of books. I was an early adopter of e-books and read them on early small PDA devices, but really jumped into it with a proper size tablet. At any moment, I have at least a dozen books on my tablet, but as long as I have an internet conenction, I can get a new one if I read them all and am away from home. Even with my eye issues, I have no problem reading the screen, and the tablet is lighter and thinner than most any paperback book, let along a heavy hardcover.

                                          --Randy

 


Modeling the Reading Railroad in the 1950's

 

Visit my web site at www.readingeastpenn.com for construction updates, DCC Info, and more.

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Posted by richhotrain on Saturday, January 30, 2021 4:04 PM

doctorwayne

So for anybody out there who has tried to contact me, I'm not the one who's hiding.

Au contraire!

I have written you many times imploring you to gift Bertram's to me without any response from you whatsoever. The silence is deafening.

Rich

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Posted by selector on Saturday, January 30, 2021 3:32 PM

Wayne, my PM  function was accessible, but it did weird things when I attempted to post my comment.  As I scrolled down to place my cursor on the send button, the whole text box kept creeping down and I could never actually post the statement.  This happened from about last summer until the past couple of weeks, and then suddenly it began to work.  I'm using MS10's Edge.

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Posted by doctorwayne on Saturday, January 30, 2021 2:21 PM

I've had a non-working "Conversations" feature for quite some time...others can contact me through it, but I cannot reply to any of them, and I'm sure it makes me look inconsiderate, as my usual practice is to answer everyone who asks for information, whether I have the answers or can direct them to someone who does.

As far as I know, Forum Members can contact me via the e-mail option in Conversations, but I'd guess that you'll need to supply your e-mail address if you want my reply, as I think that otherwise, your e-mail address would be hidden, too.
That option would also allow me to send photos, if they're needed, as part of my reply.

So for anybody out there who has tried to contact me, I'm not the one who's hiding.

Wayne

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Posted by "JaBear" on Saturday, January 30, 2021 1:35 PM

Pruitt
This forum software is getting more corrupted all the time.

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Posted by Doughless on Saturday, January 30, 2021 1:28 PM

ATLANTIC CENTRAL

  

Through all of this, MR, or Kalmbach in general, should just go 100% digital and charge a subsription for the "mag" articles and access to the forum.  Format the mag in PDF or something for folks who want to print their own hard copy (with appropriate watermarks or limitations to impede duplication) because they like the paper version better.

The revenue stream would be more efficient, IMO.

If I got the mag, the forum, the trackplan data base, in one reasonable subscription fee, I would probably resubscribe to MR. 

The forum would still be searchable and visible for lurkers, they just couldn't post or sign up without subscribing.

Have an extra subscription fee for the MR Video Plus to help pay for the production costs of those videos.

 

 

 

And if they go all digital, I would likely not renew. I tried reading MRH online, have a bunch of them downloaded, just can't get into it.

And I have a worse time trying to watch any of the videos, here or anywhere, about model trains.

Sheldon 

 

MRH is way too busy.  I have a hard time finding the actual articles in all of the surrounding clutter.

A small subscription fee would do away with a lot of that excessive noise.  JMO.

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Posted by ATLANTIC CENTRAL on Saturday, January 30, 2021 12:21 PM

Doughless

 

 
maxman

 

 
richhotrain

 

 
MisterBeasley

The complexity of existing software will always grow until it exceeds the ability of programmers to maintain it. 

 

 

Only if the programmers are untrained or incompetent.

 

Rich

 

I know U R ☹️ w/me, but my suggestion would be to ditch the email method and get on a program of calling the customer service number once a week.  Keep track of the date you called, and to whom you speak.  Hopefully you’ll eventually get someone who will be proactive and actually help you.

That’s what recently worked for me.

 

 

 

Through all of this, MR, or Kalmbach in general, should just go 100% digital and charge a subsription for the "mag" articles and access to the forum.  Format the mag in PDF or something for folks who want to print their own hard copy (with appropriate watermarks or limitations to impede duplication) because they like the paper version better.

The revenue stream would be more efficient, IMO.

If I got the mag, the forum, the trackplan data base, in one reasonable subscription fee, I would probably resubscribe to MR. 

The forum would still be searchable and visible for lurkers, they just couldn't post or sign up without subscribing.

Have an extra subscription fee for the MR Video Plus to help pay for the production costs of those videos.

 

And if they go all digital, I would likely not renew. I tried reading MRH online, have a bunch of them downloaded, just can't get into it.

And I have a worse time trying to watch any of the videos, here or anywhere, about model trains.

Sheldon 

    

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Posted by Doughless on Saturday, January 30, 2021 12:11 PM

maxman

 

 
richhotrain

 

 
MisterBeasley

The complexity of existing software will always grow until it exceeds the ability of programmers to maintain it. 

 

 

Only if the programmers are untrained or incompetent.

 

Rich

 

I know U R ☹️ w/me, but my suggestion would be to ditch the email method and get on a program of calling the customer service number once a week.  Keep track of the date you called, and to whom you speak.  Hopefully you’ll eventually get someone who will be proactive and actually help you.

That’s what recently worked for me.

 

Through all of this, MR, or Kalmbach in general, should just go 100% digital and charge a subsription for the "mag" articles and access to the forum.  Format the mag in PDF or something for folks who want to print their own hard copy (with appropriate watermarks or limitations to impede duplication) because they like the paper version better.

The revenue stream would be more efficient, IMO.

If I got the mag, the forum, the trackplan data base, in one reasonable subscription fee, I would probably resubscribe to MR. 

The forum would still be searchable and visible for lurkers, they just couldn't post or sign up without subscribing.

Have an extra subscription fee for the MR Video Plus to help pay for the production costs of those videos.

- Douglas

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Posted by maxman on Saturday, January 30, 2021 11:45 AM

richhotrain

 

 
MisterBeasley

The complexity of existing software will always grow until it exceeds the ability of programmers to maintain it. 

 

 

Only if the programmers are untrained or incompetent.

 

Rich

 

 

 
MisterBeasley

The complexity of existing software will always grow until it exceeds the ability of programmers to maintain it. 

 

 

Only if the programmers are untrained or incompetent.

 

Rich

 

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I know U R ☹️ w/me, but my suggestion would be to ditch the email method and get on a program of calling the customer service number once a week.  Keep track of the date you called, and to whom you speak.  Hopefully you’ll eventually get someone who will be proactive and actually help you.

That’s what recently worked for me.

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Posted by richhotrain on Saturday, January 30, 2021 11:04 AM

MisterBeasley

The complexity of existing software will always grow until it exceeds the ability of programmers to maintain it. 

Only if the programmers are untrained or incompetent.

Rich

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Saturday, January 30, 2021 11:02 AM

The complexity of existing software will always grow until it exceeds the ability of programmers to maintain it.

It takes an iron man to play with a toy iron horse. 

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Posted by mbinsewi on Saturday, January 30, 2021 9:47 AM

Hope I don't jinx myself.....Confused....but so far, no problems with anything, using Chrome.

The only thing I don't get is a notification of a PM, but that hasn't worked in a long time.

I will cautiously click on Submit Your Reply.

Mike.

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Posted by richhotrain on Saturday, January 30, 2021 4:43 AM

Pruitt

I just tried to post a reply in a thread in the Layouts and Layout Construction forum and got a screen that said "403 Forbidden".

Turns out emoticons in a quote triggers this error. I removed those, and my reply posted fine.

This forum software is getting more corrupted all the time. 

ahh, yes, the dreaded emoticon in a quote. It was Sheldon who pointed that out to me. Up until then, it was driving me nuts.

And, yes, it seems that week by week, something else gets corrupted with the forum software. I recently started a thread on my woes, the total loss of my Private Messages feature, the inability to access other Kalmbach Forums such as Classic Toy Trains and Trains, 30+ lines of coding jibberish printed in red above my screen name on the right side of every page.

Worse yet, Kalmbach does not reply to repeated pleas for help. Even the revered Steven Otte appears to have given up and doesn't reply to forum posts since there is no other way to reach him with the PM feature disabled.

I fearfully await the day when we can no longer post due to some new and final forum software crash.

Rich

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Posted by JDCoop on Friday, January 29, 2021 11:09 PM

I'm looking forward to the new trains.com.  I can't post using Chrome (no matter what actions I take) but it does let me log in with MS Edge.  I'm sure the folks at Kalmbach are anxiously awaiting the upgrade, too.

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More forum software corruption?
Posted by Pruitt on Friday, January 29, 2021 10:23 PM

I just tried to post a reply in a thread in the Layouts and Layout Construction forum and got a screen that said "403 Forbidden".

Turns out emoticons in a quote triggers this error. I removed those, and my reply posted fine.

This forum software is getting more corrupted all the time.

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