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Posted by tstage on Saturday, January 23, 2021 11:06 AM

Kevin,

Because of a recent glitch or update to the forum server, I currently have NO access to read or post PMs.  Otherwise, I would have posted the above in a PM to you rather than posting it here in this thread.  I will lock the thread and delete it early next week.

Thanks,

Tom

P.S. And please read and take note of the side note that I added to my earlier post.

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Saturday, January 23, 2021 10:46 AM

Tom, OK and thank you.

Go ahead and lock or delete this thread since it serves no purpose.

I am sending you a PM with some questions for some clarification.

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Posted by tstage on Saturday, January 23, 2021 10:37 AM

Kevin,

This probing for general information about members - even deceased - is borderline invasion of privacy.  There are also unscrupulous folks on the dark web who look for any information they can to help them link to and create false identities for nefarious purposes.  It's called ghosting.

[Side note: Look at the tidbits of information that you were able to glean or deduce about Tom M just perusing old threads on the forum.  I'm not accusing you of anything, Kevin, but this is the same type of behavior used by identity thieves.  Granted, a MRRing forum is not a likely place for them to dredge for personal information.  However, information about anyone can be found online with a little probing.  Even a personal email address that includes first, middle initial and last name and is posted in a profile that is accessible to others is opening yourself up to potential harm.]

Some folks want to keep there identity unknown while others are more open.  So, I'm removing the last names of Tom and Alan from this thread, as well as the avatar callouge with the last names included above the avatar.  Please feel free to repost it in the thread with the names removed and let the chosen forum names in the avatar suffice alone when adding it to the Diner next month.

Thanks for your understanding in the matter...

Tom

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Friday, January 22, 2021 9:37 PM

OK... enough of all of that.

I opened this thread to ask if anyone could provide me with information on two specific people.

Any other discussion should be in a different thread.

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Friday, January 22, 2021 9:36 PM

maxman
Somewhere that got added.  As time has gone on, other members have added various embelishments. 

The first RIP Track was in August, 2016.

Prior to that, the first post every month in the Diner was a remembrence for Jeffrey.

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Friday, January 22, 2021 9:27 PM

In January, 2015, the name was changed to Jeffrey's Trackside Diner from the previous Elliot's Trackside Diner.

In January, 2015 there was no RIP Track, but it started with a memorial to Jeffrey "Running Bear" in the first post.

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Posted by maxman on Friday, January 22, 2021 9:21 PM

Gidday Crandell, while the RIP Track may have been originally started for Diner Patrons who passed away, it soon became a memorial for all past Forum contributors.

Someone with a better memory than I needs to chime in.  But as I recall, when I first joined, the Trackside Diner originally had another name and there was no "RIP Track".  I think the purpose was to have a place for members to have a place to discuss various trivia, personal or otherwise, not related to any specific model/prototype topic.

Jeffrey-Wimberly, a prolific poster, had many friends on the forum.  I believe that the only person(s) with a higher post count is Annoymous.  He passed away (Jeffrey, not Annoymous), and someone suggested that the name of this forum be changed to Jeffrey's Trackside Diner.  That question was posed, and no one objected.  Hence the name change.  I believe that there still was no "RIP" track.

Somewhere that got added.  As time has gone on, other members have added various embelishments.  Sometimes simpler things are better.

Again, my feelings won't be hurt if someone with a better memory corrects me. 

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Friday, January 22, 2021 8:52 PM

Digging deeper into Tom M***, it seems he only made 29 posts to the forums in a period of 4 years.

I read all of the posts, and he never mentions what railroad he models or where he lives.

He seemed to have a lot of knowledge on locomotive repowers and DCC in-and-outs. A few times he mentions locomotive work done for clients.

Can anyone tell me more about him? Did he have a model railroad business?

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Posted by "JaBear" on Friday, January 22, 2021 7:42 PM

selector
Have you published your criteria for inclusion in your RIP compilation?  Are you open to suggestions for inclusion, or have you pretty much settled on the names you show?   

Gidday Crandell, while the RIP Track may have been originally started for Diner Patrons who passed away, it soon became a memorial for all past Forum contributors.
 
While there have been no published criteria, there has been no suggestion of a popularity contest, either.
 
The only discussion in previous Diner conversations, has been as in the case of tomikawaTT Chuck, as to the members actual passing.
 
As far as I’m concerned, and I’d suggest I’d certainly be not on my own, any Forum Member who is aware that a fellow member has passed away can, and perhaps should, bring it to, at least, the Diners attention so that former member can be added to the RIP Track.
 
I say should, because on a personal note, too my embarrassment, I’m finding that I’ve missed notification of the passing of old friends/workmates, who, in recent years i only saw once in a blue moon, who I’d have liked to have paid my respects to their family members. A “faceless forum” comprising of a wide spread membership just exacerbates that problem.
 
If as you say twhite Tom has indeed passed away, I am sad to hear that. I enjoyed his posts especially his photos of his articulated locomotives “battling the grade”. But there would be no question of him being added to the Track.
 
I quite often wonder about forum members who have not posted for a while, but don't like to mention it in case I’m bringing the "kiss of death".
 
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Posted by SeeYou190 on Friday, January 22, 2021 7:14 PM

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Beyond that, if "discussion" is required (other than determining if someone is really dead) then it begins to sound like a popularity contest. And then, what?  Will there be a vote?

Before this gets crazy... the RIP track has been on page 1 of the Diner for more than a decade. It is just a memorial, and I am trying to make it more meaningful. Memorials are very special to me.

I just need information on Tom M*** and Alan B**** so I can make their memorial appropriate. I hope someone can help. I would really like to know what the BAH Railroad was named.

Any other discussion about the RIP Track should be taken over to the Diner where others that know can explain it better. I really have little knowledge of how the list originated. I am just trying to make it more meaningful out of respect for what it is.

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Posted by angelob6660 on Friday, January 22, 2021 6:42 PM

I didn't know that Neil B. Died. Then again I no longer got the magazine in two years.

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Posted by GMTRacing on Friday, January 22, 2021 4:36 PM

The naming of the diner and the list of passed members was started long ago. In fact the diner has been here since I can remember and was once IIRC headed by Chief Eagles (I may not have that right) and then was called Elliots Diner in honor of another diner patron who passed before the denizens of the diner decided to rename it in honor of Jeffrey another noteworthy patron, more the head of it than anything. We never tried to name all the frequent posters on the site, just honor the folks that were in the diner a lot. I have no issue honoring all the frequent posters and the current patrons sort of nominate and list by chance. If I have that wrong or I've offended anybody, feel free to chime in.  My My 2 Cents J.R.

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Posted by maxman on Friday, January 22, 2021 4:21 PM

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selector
Have you published your criteria for inclusion in your RIP compilation?  Are you open to suggestions for inclusion, or have you pretty much settled on the names you show?   

 

Nothing at all like that.

These are the names that have been on the RIP track in Jeffrey's Diner for years.

When a new one is added, it is because of discussion among the Diner participants. I have had nothing to do with any of the names being added, and it is not "my" list at all.

If there is a name that should be added... please bring it up in a post in Jeffrey's Diner. I will do whatever is decided.

-Kevin

 

My humble opinion is that any forum member who has passed on should be included in the RIP track thing.  Beyond that, if "discussion" is required (other than determining if someone is really dead) then it begins to sound like a popularity contest.

And then, what?  Will there be a vote?

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Friday, January 22, 2021 3:47 PM

selector
Have you published your criteria for inclusion in your RIP compilation?  Are you open to suggestions for inclusion, or have you pretty much settled on the names you show?   

Nothing at all like that.

These are the names that have been on the RIP track in Jeffrey's Diner for years.

When a new one is added, it is because of discussion among the Diner participants. I have had nothing to do with any of the names being added, and it is not "my" list at all.

If there is a name that should be added... please bring it up in a post in Jeffrey's Diner. I will do whatever is decided.

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Posted by tankertoad135 on Friday, January 22, 2021 3:02 PM

Kevin,

I wish I could assist, but you have names of gents I corresponded with listed.  That is a very worthy and superb cause you put together!Cowboy

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Posted by selector on Friday, January 22, 2021 3:01 PM

Have you published your criteria for inclusion in your RIP compilation?  Are you open to suggestions for inclusion, or have you pretty much settled on the names you show?   

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Friday, January 22, 2021 2:23 PM

Research has suggested that Alan B's actual name was [name removed]

His user ID has been rolled into Anonymous, so it is difficult to research much from there. I have looked at threads where he posted links to photos of his railroad, but none of the links work now.

It looks like he had a private roadname called the BAH Railroad. This is difficult because when I google "bah model railroad" I get a zillion results with "bah" used as an interjection.

Does anyone know what the initials "BAH" stood for?

If so, I can take it from there.

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Friday, January 22, 2021 12:31 PM

selector
I may be mistaken, but hasn't twhite, Tom, also moved onto the lofty track?

When I was assembling the yearbook, I found dozens of members that had just abruptly disappeared. I am pretty certain we could have fifty or so names on the RIP track if it was researched.

I don't see any reason to do that, but if there is someone missing that should be honored there, let me know.

I take memorials of any sort very seriously.

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Posted by selector on Friday, January 22, 2021 12:29 PM

I may be mistaken, but hasn't twhite, Tom, also moved onto the lofty track?

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Need help with RIP track memorial
Posted by SeeYou190 on Friday, January 22, 2021 11:14 AM

I made a new graphic for the RIP track in January featuring the Avatars and User Names of our departed friends.

I would like to add avatars for Tom M*** and Alan B. Does anyone know their favorite railroad or another appropriate icon that can replace the generic weeble?

Thank you.

[Image removed by moderator.  Please re-post image once full names are removed above avatars]

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