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'CROSSBUCK SIGN"

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Thursday, December 10, 2020 10:23 PM

TrainsRMe1
Thanks for the information, I will check out the links you guys sent me!!!!!

Glad that someone was able to help you out.

Please keep us updated with this project... I would love pictures!

-Kevin

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Posted by TrainsRMe1 on Thursday, December 10, 2020 10:13 PM

Thanks for the information, I will check out the links you guys sent me!!!!!

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Thursday, December 10, 2020 10:07 PM

gmpullman
So far, I like the look of the clamp I linked to at the end of my reply. I believe this is S.S. but maybe it can be found in galvanized?

There are plenty of good options out there. Fastening a flat piece to a round pole is not a unique problem... there were plenty of good suggestions here.

I hope he gets his sign put together.

-Kevin

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Posted by gmpullman on Thursday, December 10, 2020 9:54 PM

 

SeeYou190
Or... a pair of 5 inch guillotine style exhaust clamps could be used.

So far, I like the look of the clamp I linked to at the end of my reply. I believe this is S.S. but maybe it can be found in galvanized?

 6 inch clamp by Edmund, on Flickr

The OP will have to check the OD of his mast.

Good Luck.  Ed

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Thursday, December 10, 2020 9:41 PM

BigDaddy
You are going to need someone with metal fabricating skills. 

Having a nephew that is a welder is a big help. Do you have a cute neice? If so, encourage her to look for a companion in the welding trade. It worked out well for me...

Other than that... the Unistrut that Ed suggested is easy to work with and should accomplish what you need. The Home Depot store in my area sells a very similar product.

Or... a pair of 5 inch guillotine style exhaust clamps could be used.

-Kevin

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Posted by mbinsewi on Thursday, December 10, 2020 9:33 PM

TrainsRMe1
the signal I bought is a prototype signal from a railroad park.

Oh, you didn't say that in your OP.  

Have fun!

Mike.

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Posted by gmpullman on Thursday, December 10, 2020 7:57 PM

We used a lot of stuff called UniStrut where I worked for making pipe brackets and such.

https://www.unistrut.us/product-details/p1109-thru-p1126

Many of the signal masts I'm familiar with are 5" pipe (5.563 OD). Yours may be different. You could look for an electrical or plumbing contractor that might have some scraps of UniStrut they might part with, you only need a couple of short lengths and the clamps.

Short of that you can squeak by with some threaded rod (AKA allthread) bent over a mandrel to make big U bolts then bolt these to a sub-plate that the cross bucks can be bolted to.

If you want to try to stay authentic try contacting some rail surplus dealers.

Ozark seems to handle "small-lot" items. Tell them what you are looking for they may have a connection:

https://ozarkmountainrailcar.com/

 Heavy equipment dealers will have exhaust clamps in the 4 to 8" OD range. Marine supply houses will have these, too.

https://www.truckpipesusa.com/products/5-flat-bolt-exhaust-clamp-zinc-plated-fb-5zn.html

Be sure you measure the exact OD of your pipe. Get the next size larger if necessary.

https://www.4statetrucks.com/exhaust/semi-truck-6in-stainless-steel-universal-exhaust-clamp_22389.asp?gclid=CjwKCAiAq8f-BRBtEiwAGr3DgbuBP-WFTnsBT8IEMjx9KN_r46WTLj4GUbH8RVgAsaN5I5hOdw9XZxoCcOIQAvD_BwE

 

Good Luck, Ed

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Posted by richhotrain on Thursday, December 10, 2020 6:35 PM

TrainsRMe1

Ok, let me make myself clear, the signal I bought is a prototype signal from a railroad park. Gmpullman, has the right idea on what I'm looking for.  

Ahh, the real deal. 

You can buy metal brackets that hold signs to posts. Here is an example:

https://www.emedco.com/sign-post-brackets-bbsb-6.html

Rich

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Posted by BigDaddy on Thursday, December 10, 2020 5:54 PM

TrainsRMe1
I bought is a prototype signal from a railroad park. Gmpullman, has the right idea on what I'm looking for.

You mean the real thing?   Evergreen isn't going to help then.

You are going to need someone with metal fabricating skills.  That would be people who build racecars, hot rods motorcycles, or have machinist skills.

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Posted by TrainsRMe1 on Thursday, December 10, 2020 4:55 PM

Ok, let me make myself clear, the signal I bought is a prototype signal from a railroad park. Gmpullman, has the right idea on what I'm looking for. 

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Posted by mbinsewi on Thursday, December 10, 2020 3:16 PM

I don't think I've ever seen actual grade crossing signals without the crossbuck. Huh?

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Posted by gmpullman on Thursday, December 10, 2020 3:05 PM

Is this HO? I'm not sure what you need in the way of a bracket that can't be fabricated out of Evergreen channel or angle. I was curious so took a few photos of my crossing signal:

 Crossing_elev by Edmund, on Flickr

Here is the only thing that forms the bracket to attach the crossbuck to the post:

 Crossing-crossbuck by Edmund, on Flickr

And from a profile view you can see the crossbuck doesn't stand-off from the post very far:

 Crossing-sig by Edmund, on Flickr

This is from a book of B&O signal drawings, if you need more detail I can scan one of the prints.

 crossing_sign-mount by Edmund, on Flickr

The signals with gates use the longer stand-off brackets.

Oregon Railway Supply makes small plastic stand-offs for mounting signals to masts but I really wouldn't think it would be necessary since it would be a simple matter to make your own.

Good Luck, Ed

 

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Posted by RR_Mel on Thursday, December 10, 2020 1:16 PM

I scratch built my crossbuck signals from brass and didn’t know there was a bracket, I just soldered them to the support tube.



 

Mel



 
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'CROSSBUCK SIGN"
Posted by TrainsRMe1 on Thursday, December 10, 2020 1:02 PM

Hello Everyone,                                                                                                      I hope you all have a SAFE Holiday season, I have a question, back in the summer I bought railroad crossing signals without the crossbuck, well now I have the crossbuck sign, but, I need the section that holds the sign to the post, does anyone have any idea where I could pick one up????                                                     Thanks ALL                                                                                                         Trainsrme1Cool

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