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Any info on this large O scale Dreyfuss Hydson boiler and frames?

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Posted by philo426 on Thursday, August 27, 2020 10:01 PM

Being a flywheel MTH chassis it runs smoothly and powerfully even goes around O-31 curves !

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Posted by snjroy on Thursday, August 27, 2020 1:14 PM

philo426

 

Nice! How does she run? 

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Posted by philo426 on Tuesday, August 25, 2020 5:59 PM

Art Deco era is classic!

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Posted by Overmod on Tuesday, August 25, 2020 5:43 PM

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the Rexall boiler reminds me of an NYC  Mercury!

There are some detail differences between the Mercury shroud and Kantola's Commodore Vanderbilt version ... which, as you know, was subsequently streamlined to look very much like your boiler ... but certainly there's a working 'family' resemblance.
Now might be the time to mention the lighted drivers on the Mercury engines...

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Posted by philo426 on Tuesday, August 25, 2020 5:06 PM

That is cool but the Rexall boiler reminds me of an NYC  Mercury!

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Posted by Overmod on Tuesday, August 25, 2020 2:37 PM

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This needs to be painted as the Rexall Train of 1938!

 Sure beats the 'uninspired bathtub shape' of the original... and the train contained many examples of fine model-railroad-worthy construction so you could have some fun with T-scale modeling... see some of the original train details and story here:

http://capnrexall.blogspot.com/2017/09/the-1936-rexall-train-tonic-for.html?m=1

Note that you could always adapt the 4-6-6 wheel arrangement as seen on the publicity pins... Surprise

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Posted by IRONROOSTER on Tuesday, August 25, 2020 2:19 PM

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Overmod, 1) It's a steamlined hudson 2) It's painted blue 3) Let me try to explain the concept of joke...

 

A Big Smile Smile, Wink & Grin or Laugh helps get that across.

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Posted by philo426 on Tuesday, August 25, 2020 12:27 PM

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Posted by philo426 on Sunday, August 23, 2020 8:48 AM

Light Gray!

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Posted by Overmod on Sunday, August 23, 2020 5:56 AM

Sorry about that; there are too many things recently posted with that sort of claim which weren't meant as jokes.

It's gray on my screens.

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Posted by BEAUSABRE on Sunday, August 23, 2020 3:11 AM

Overmod, 1) It's a steamlined hudson 2) It's painted blue 3) Let me try to explain the concept of joke...

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Posted by philo426 on Thursday, August 20, 2020 3:16 PM

Sure looks like it pullman but it is missing the front New York Central curved shield

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Posted by gmpullman on Thursday, August 20, 2020 3:10 PM

Hard to tell from your photo — could it be from an old Max Gray Hudson?

 

https://www.brasstrains.com/BrassGuide/Pdg/Detail/36457/O-Steam-Non-Articulated-Max-Gray-Hudson-New-York-Central-4-6-4-J-3A

 

Good Luck, Ed

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Posted by philo426 on Thursday, August 20, 2020 1:36 PM
  1. Yes so have a MTH Mohawk that I might try to fit to the boiler 
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Posted by Overmod on Thursday, August 20, 2020 12:26 PM

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Sure that's not the Santa Fe's "Blue Goose"  https://locomotive.fandom.com/wiki/ATSF_No._3460

There is absolutely, positively zero doubt that he has a Dreyfuss NYC Hudson boiler.  Moreover the visible dimensions indicate it is one of the J3s and not the J1 rebuilt to that streamlining.

Very few design details are common between those two locomotives, other than that they are both shrouded and share a gauge and a wheel arrangement.

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Posted by BEAUSABRE on Thursday, August 20, 2020 12:12 PM

Sure that's not the Santa Fe's "Blue Goose"  https://locomotive.fandom.com/wiki/ATSF_No._3460

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Posted by philo426 on Wednesday, August 19, 2020 3:25 PM

Primer applied!  

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Posted by philo426 on Tuesday, August 18, 2020 12:20 PM

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Posted by philo426 on Tuesday, August 18, 2020 12:06 PM

Fabricated from heavy brass stock no markings that I could discover.

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Posted by dknelson on Tuesday, August 18, 2020 11:01 AM

The Williams, Weaver, Lionel and MTH Dreyfuss Hudsons were scale (or very close to scale) models yet marketed to the third rail set (although Lionel might have had a  rail version)  so they are appropriately discussed here or in the Classic Toy Trains part of the forum.  Without seeing the number on the cab one of the easy ways to tell the difference is not available.  

Is the boiler/cab fabricated from brass or is it one big casting?  I think MTH might have been cast, the others fabricated.  So would the old Max Gray brass import of course.

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Posted by philo426 on Tuesday, August 18, 2020 10:34 AM

Oh  yes I recognize its significance so the only alteration that may occur is uf I have to drill and tap holes  for mounting screws .I will paint it light grey though.

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Posted by Overmod on Tuesday, August 18, 2020 9:03 AM

As a suggestion: modify the MTH parts to fit the boiler, not the other way 'round.  While there might not be achievable 'collector value' in that shell, it represents a kind of 'historic fabric' that should not be randomly lost.

I would go so far as to use epoxy and internal blocks to provide any mounting points or spacers in the shell, to allow removal if this is ever converted to something like 2-rail (which is truthfully a better prospective use of scale O components) or P:48.

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Posted by philo426 on Tuesday, August 18, 2020 7:19 AM

I think I will try to adapt the boiler to fit an old MTH Hudson I have.

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Posted by snjroy on Tuesday, August 18, 2020 7:05 AM

It definitely looks like an old 2 rail piece. Might be the same one as the Katsumi (Max Gray) for sale on www.brasstrains.com Website. Rebuilding will be a challenge for sure...

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Posted by Overmod on Monday, August 17, 2020 3:28 PM

That's a scale engine, and I think legitimately here.  I know there is this weird thing about that other f-word here, but very likely his answer is either here or in discussion with that community:

https://ogrforum.ogaugerr.com/topic/o-scale-locomotive-guide-hudsons

Then he can come back and show us what he does with it...

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Posted by tstage on Monday, August 17, 2020 1:43 PM

Since it's O-scale, you might want to post it over on the Classic Toy Trains forum, as well.  You may get more pertinent information that way.

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Any info on this large O scale Dreyfuss Hydson boiler and frames?
Posted by philo426 on Monday, August 17, 2020 1:00 PM

Just obtained this large Dreyfuss Hudson O scale boiler and frames.any info on the maker and era it was produced and where to obtain the necessary parts it needs.

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