Good Evening,
TF, go for it! I get a little thrill every time I look at my new Hudson.
Time for some dessert. How about some sticky toffee pudding. A real Brit treat. No it isn't like a pudding as we usually know it here. I had some in England last time and it was really good. In fact I have one to heat up sitting on the kitchen counter. I share.
Ken, how is Dirk's paw?
I thought we were going to stay away from discussions of covid here.
CN Charlie
Oh oh, The Fiddler has been browsing eBay again. A dangerous past time I know.
How could one not be tempted to buy this beautiful CN bloody nose zebra Eh!
I'm having a real hard time fighting the temptation Oh Well, ... If I lose I win
TF
Eveing Diners
Flo, give the gang a mask with a straw hole, straw, and Dirk a dog treat plaese.
Work it was slow and I was Ok with that! Only people in the store came in was to finish a credit ap (she had a mask on) and later her female friend to help pick up the King Set her friend bought. The friend did not have a mask, I told her we have free mask on that table for you. She said "I am only waiting for a friend to help her pick it up, I just wanted to look around". Told her that find but you need to ware a mask, they are free. She said "I have never been told I have to ware a mask! and I was going to buy 1 or maybe 2 mattress! I will wait outside! !" Fine with me, not worth taking a chances for a few $ if I don't live to spend it!
I was told that the city of St Louis is under lockdown again. Don't know it for a fact but would not surprise me.
Later, Ken and Dirk says Woof, Woof.
I hate Rust
Please.
York1 John
I asked my doctor if I gave up delicious food and all alcohol, would I live longer? He said, "No, but it will seem longer."
LastspikemikeJust be aware that the science of mask use is pretty poor. There is in fact no good science supporting mass wearing of masks. It is mainly a publicity stance to encourage public confidence. It is bad public policy. No epidemiologist can claim mask wearing improves safety.
https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/06/417906/still-confused-about-masks-heres-science-behind-how-face-masks-prevent
LastspikemikeIndeed, if a mask works it does so by efficiently trapping the virus particles in the mask. Viral load is what causes infection. Concentrating coronavirus particles millimetres in front of your lips and nostrils is a really dangerous idea.
https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2020/06/stanford-scientists-contribute-to-who-mask-guidelines.html
LastspikemikeIf you are an infectious covid 19 virus carrier then you should not go out. Period.
LastspikemikeMask wearing is insufficient to prevent you from infecting others. Asymptomatic carriers of covid 19 virus in sufficient load to be dangerous to others is simply not proven to be real.
We need to take information from the experts instead of choosing the storyline we like best. I wish this wasn't a "thing" too, but it is.
Mike
BroadwayLionHow come English Muffins are made in New Jersey ???
How come they call it New Jersey? Were they too lazy to come up with an original name?
Edit; Maybe when I leave this nutty planet with Elon to inhabit a new planet, I'll call it New Vancouver!
Brent
"All of the world's problems are the result of the difference between how we think and how the world works."
Good evening
I picked up Judy from work late this afternoon and she said she was really hungry.
Friday I stumbled across this new Sub Shop in Apple Valley. It's called Goodcents Deli Fresh Subs. That sub must have been really good because I had no problem driving Judy a half hour south to go to this sub shop again.
It puts that other sub chain to shame. The bread melts in your mouth and they take a whole loaf of meat and run it through the meat slicer fresh for every sub they make. They had to get three loaves of meat out to make the Penny Club.
The best thing is while we still had our masks on there is a Rita's Custard shop right next door. In 94 degrees and humid that vanilla cherry custard Shake sure hit the spot. We enjoyed our dessert first and enjoyed our subs when we got home
I'm probably going to pack some weight on during this pandemic It's one of the only few things to do anymore is eat
Oh well, I can work it off
How come there are no bones in ice cream and vests don't have sleeves?
How come English Muffins are made in New Jersey ???
The Monastery and our cars are considered 'cleana spaces' everywhere else it is our policy that we must wear masks. This will undoubtedly be a continuing policy of our house long after the CCP virus is in the dustbin.
What the Heck, I have had no cold taking these simple precautions so it seems like a god idea.
ROAR
(PS Calendar of LION seems to have stopped sometime back in June.)
The Route of the Broadway Lion The Largest Subway Layout in North Dakota.
Here there be cats. LIONS with CAMERAS
Well, I guess I'm a mask heretic. The hospitalizations are very low, and the death rate has really fallen off, and both continue to drop.
But, that just means the disease is being detected more in younger, healthy people. We are testing more, and therefore finding more cases.
My feeling is that the "herd immunity" group is right. We need to develop that herd immunity, and young people who are not particularly susceptible make excellent candidates for that.
I don't think there will be a safe, effective vaccine for years, if at all, and I don't plan to hide under the bed for those years. Sure, I will wear a mask if required, but eventually everyone is going to get exposed and will potentially be infected. We can't hide forever.
I was possibly exposed to someone who tested positive a couple of weeks ago. We got tested and the results were negative. Oddly, I found myself wishing for a positive result, since it's already been two weeks and I had no symptoms. Now, I'm back to worrying about getting infected again.
I'm 73 years old, I have high blood pressure, diabetes and congestive heart failure. The Covid Panic Brigade would lock me up and not let me even go outside for a long time, but that is not my choice. My spirit was crumbling before some restrictions were lifted a few weeks ago, and a couple of evenings out revived them. I don't want to go back to the early lockdown restrictions.
It takes an iron man to play with a toy iron horse.
York1The tree guys didn't make it last night. They got behind on another job. I hope they come today and finish. I'm tired of this.
When I had a tree removed from the back yard in March, it was over two weeks from the original scheduled date until it was finally cut down.
I feel your pain and frustration.
up831My sister happens to be an amazing quilter. I'm just awestruck at her work.
My wife and I really want a nice hand made quilt. We have looked at hundreds of them in quilt shops all through the South, and never made a purchase.
The workmanship is amazing, and the variety is bewildering.
One day we will find the one that just screams "BUY ME", and we will get it.
The search has been fun.
-Kevin
Living the dream.
Good afternoon all.
Chloe - A nice cheeseburger, fries, and a Coke please. Thanks.
Ken - Good that you stood for what is required by both the CDC, WHO, and Health Dept. (Also possibly your boss, company, county, state and others.)
At least in PA, there is a medical exemption, for those under 2 and those on oxygen/with severe breathing issues, but unless you are under 2, you need to have a card from your Doctor, and are supposed to mention the medical exemption when asked to wear a mask by employees/officials, and are supposed to have the card available to show when requested by employees and/or officials. (Asthma does not qualify. I am not unhappy, as I would not want a medical exemption.)
In PA, it is required that you wear a mask when you leave your house. In your yard, a car by yourself, or in your own house you are exempt. Everywhere else it is required by the State Health Dept., County Health Dept., State & Local Government order, and is recommended and encouraged by CDC & WHO. National government is also now encouraging all to wear masks.
Yes, you have the freedom to choose whether you obey, but that comes with the responsibility of getting yourself in trouble, and putting yourself and others at increased risk. You also get the freedom of accepting whatever penalties are assessed for not obeying. (Such as being told to leave stores, fines, etc....)
Yes, many are enforcing their rights. But no one has any right to needlessly place others in harms way.
And, it's exactly because of these freedoms and rights that allow stores, businesses, and states/counties to require masks. We are required to wear shoes and shirts also. This isn't much different than that requirement. Yes, masks are hot. Yes they are uncomfortable, but they have been scientifically proven to help prevent spreading a scientifically proven deadly disease. (While not 100%, it is infinitely better than not doing anything.)
My only other comment on masks will be this - If heat and humidity were a reason that masks would harm individuals due to bacteria and mold, etc...., then medical professionals, people who work with dusty jobs, and people who wear even more restrictive masks for working with paint/other chemicals, would not be able to wear them during summer heat and humidity either. (And I have seen zero evidence to support this supposed issue, but have seen plenty of everyday proof that it is not any issue wearing them in summer heat & humidity.)
Now, back to our regularly scheduled discussions -
Ed - Your pollen pic has me sneezing clear over here!
Weather - Still hot and humid.
Tree trimming discussion - Had a pine tree (affected by some kind of blight) taken down last week. The individual we had do it pointed out where he was going to drop it, and it landed within 6 inches of that exact spot. Real professionals know exactly how to drop a tree, and can do it quickly and safely. He had a total of 3 people counting himself, and they had the 35' tree down and cleaned up in under 8 hours. (We paid cash and gave him the tree, as we do not have a wood stove, but he was aware of someone who could use the wood.)
Hope all are well, and all enjoy the day!
Ricky W.
HO scale Proto-freelancer.
My Railroad rules:
1: It's my railroad, my rules.
2: It's for having fun and enjoyment.
3: Any objections, consult above rules.
Good morning Everyone,
Just got back from a trip to another state to visit family. Our state is still requiring masks in buildings and etc. We go to the other state and it was pretty much wide open. Didn't wear my mask once the whole visit, but we also weren't out and about that much. Sure was a different feeling at first. We're now sort of self quartineing out of courtesy for others just simply minimizing interactions and wearing our masks to the supermarket. Don't want to be responsible for giving something to someone else if we by chance picked up something.
My sister happens to be an amazing quilter. I'm just awestruck at her work. My wife purchased a bunch of sewn zipper bags my sister had made to give to people. Sorry, don't have pics to share.
Saw just a couple of RR things, a small yard and a bridge Visible from the freeway. Interesting to see how things change over the years.
Edit: Ed: libraries routinely get rid of old books. Sometimes they're for sale for literally pennies. Check with your local library. (Reference to comment on another thread.)
Jim (with a nod to Mies Van Der Rohe)
Works for me. J.R.
Good ....... Uh.... Oops! Think I made a wrong turn here this morning. No? Well I'm sure Cousin Vinnie will be in to clean up the mess just as soon as he is up and dressed... LOL
Only thing I will say is. The issue is more about how you respect, care, and "do unto others" in this world (That is a major part of my personal faith system) than "rights". I always do my best to do what is recommended and expected when I am out and around. With all the folks yelling about their "rights", they seem to forget that one very important responsibility is, that others also have rights. Ah... You may have heard of "Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness?" I take part of that to mean that my right to swing my fists ends at the tip of the other guy's nose! Or maybe my right to ignore health recommendations ends when I could cause major harm or death to someone else. Like what has been discussed earlier.
How about we try to turn the other cheek and treat each other with respect including following rules and recommendations both out in public and, ah..... Maybe even here at the forum?
'nuff said!
73
Ray Seneca Lake, Ontario, and Western R.R. (S.L.O.&W.) in HO
We'll get there sooner or later!
Good morning. Just coffee this morning.
The tree guys didn't make it last night. They got behind on another job. I hope they come today and finish. I'm tired of this.
My daughters were all older when Shining Time Station came on TV with Thomas the Tank Engine. We just never watched it.
Later, I was flipping the channels and came across the show. I was hooked -- not for the stories but for the models.
Now it is computer generated, and for me, has lost the appeal. I know some people like it better CGI, but I loved the real thing. I've seen several Thomas layouts at railroad shows, so maybe it gets some kids interested in model railroading.
Oh, well, it was UK show and we're in the UK.
LB&SCR E2
Have a good day, everyone.
Good morning
Another hot one as it seems to be the pattern pretty much nation wide from what I gather. Hot and humid is forecasted all week here with a high of 100 actual tomorrow.
Judy and I take the mask thing pretty seriously these days. Especially after this wicked disease affected our Family.
A study was done on indoor air quality up here and microscopic particles of the covid were found suspended in the air of the room with no people present with exception of the people doing the test. That's enough for me to wear a mask and my sunglasses any time I have to go inside whether near anybody or not.
I do miss my friends but have not been to Cowboys in well over three months. They have the patios open for social distancing. I have drove by quite a few times and I see no evidence of this. What used to be a middle-aged to an older crowd has turned into a bunch of kids that are right on top of each other. No Thanks! I'll have a beer at home.
For some reason the younger generation thinks they're invincible and do not take this thing very seriously at all. I guess I can somewhat understand this as I was young once too. I just wish they all knew how serious this thing really is. They say the more recent spikes stem from the younger crowd.
Well, I have a few things to take care of on my truck this morning before it gets to Sticky out.
Have a great day everyone
Good Morning All,
A regular to go please Zoe. mid 70's already and it should get into the nineties by noon. Not much to report on the train front though the local railway museum is reopening for the volunteers so they can come in and clean and prep things. Maybe they can have a soft opening with restrictions by the end of July if things here keep improving. I won't get into a back and forth on masks but kudos to Ken for standing his ground at w**k. Nova Scotia has "bubbles" - small groups that are comfortable with each other but in my sisters, they still mask up.
Time to pick up tools. We are off to New Hampshire this weekend and I'm concerned with the amount of increased infection there. We shall see how it goes.
Ciao, J.R.
Oh boy I have top. Brekkies on me folks. I will start with a waffle with blueberrys
and whipped cream. Side of link sausage too please.
Tinplate ToddlerAnd while we are at it, you should be wearing googles as well, as your eyes are also entry sites for the virus into your body.
I wear a mask so that my saliva droplets don't become airborne and affect others. As long as I'm not crying I don't have to worry about covering my eyes.
The mask also helps in reducing unnecessary hand-to-face contact.
Century_2_covi by Edmund, on Flickr
Cheers, Ed
hon30critterWell done Ken! The Covid-19 situation is not one where we can tolerate idiots! Saying nothing could be fatal!
Dave: On this trip I have made around a few states (Georgia, Tennessee, Kentucky, Indiana, Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, and Florida) I have been amazed at the different attitudes of people in different areas.
In Indiana, no one was wearing masks, and some people actually commented on my mask saying I was a "sheep" falling for the propaganda.
At the service in Ohio, the man leading the formalities actually asked everyone that was wearing a mask to remove them "out of respect", I almost lost my mind. I was paying this guy, and he said something that stupid on my dime.
Most of the rest of Ohio was very responsible although in the wide open spaces of the Cuyahoga Valley Park, no one was wearing masks, but we were hundreds of feet apart.
In North Carolina, I saw no one without a mask. They were taking the situation very seriously.
This was unbelievable: When I re-entered Florida, there was a Covid-19 check point on the border. Florida is the current "hot-spot" for the virus. Stopping people from bringing it in is like telling people not to bring sand to the beach. A little bit more is not going to change anything at this point. No other State I travelled to had a check point.
Ulrich: People with breathing problems are allowed to wear loose fitting bandanas covering their faces... problem solved. There are other options as well, but not covering your face should not be the chosen course of action. That hazardous material exposure suit would provide better protection, but if 95% of the people just wear masks, we could do a lot.
hon30critter cudaken Told him, there is the door sir and the couple left with there Free Mask! Well done Ken! The Covid-19 situation is not one where we can tolerate idiots! Saying nothing could be fatal! Dave Apologies to Kalmbach if my comment is inappropriate.
cudaken Told him, there is the door sir and the couple left with there Free Mask!
Well done Ken! The Covid-19 situation is not one where we can tolerate idiots! Saying nothing could be fatal!
Dave
Apologies to Kalmbach if my comment is inappropriate.
Dave - I don´t think your comment is appropriate in this form and in this forum. If this is the new style in this forum and in the Diner, I am out of this place!
There are many people who are not able to wear a mask, due to respiratory or heart issues. I am among them. There are times, when I have to go out to do essential business, which cannot be dealt with otherwise. I keep a safe distance from other people, which is by far the better protection than to wear a mask with it´s warm and humid atmosphere providing an ideal environment for bacteria and virusses to thrive in. And while we are at it, you should be wearing googles as well, as your eyes are also entry sites for the virus into your body. The virus is on your cloths, in your hair, just about everywhere around you. A simply mask won´t give you the protection, only this will:
Before you enter your house, take it off and don´t forget your shoes!
On old Indian saying tells us not to judge a person before having walked a mile in his mocassins!
Happy times!
Ulrich (aka The Tin Man)
"You´re never too old for a happy childhood!"
Evening all.
It was another beautiful day out West and I spent it pressure washing again. I couldn't get the pressure washer to fire up and found the spark plug had seen better days so it was off to Home Depot for a new one. B.C. had 7 new covid cases today with 16 in hospital. Even with such low numbers all us Home Depot customers had our mask on as we want to keep it that way.
https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/a6f23959a8b14bfa989e3cda29297ded
Put the new plug in and she fired right up.
Ken, you keep right on asking customers to wear mask, no job is worth your life.
My Mom use to love to make clothes in the 60s and 70s and had a good selection of material on hand that my sister had kept when she died. A lot of it Mom had brought home from Europe on one of her visits home. My sister decided to get rid of it and put an ad on FB saying vintage material for sale. Someone from the movie industry was over PDQ and gave her $5500.00 for the lot of it saying it was quite the find and it will be put to good use. Good thing she didn't just chuck it out.
I think one more full day on the pressure washer and I'll have the back patios and dog kennels clean. The front of the house can wait for another week or weeks to be done.
The wife could not figure out why we had quite a bit more money in the bank account than usual at this time of the year. I reminded her we have not taken any trips yet this year. Normally we would have two or three under our belts by now. We'll make up for it once we can travel again as we both have the urge to go somewhere. She also has an eye on a new car, though she doesn't know what yet. Once she gets the vehicle she gets them outfitted with custom dog crates so the mutts are as safe as they can be. All the dog shows are cancelled so there is no rush.
We were going to do a dog show circuit down through the SW U.S. this Winter, but that will have to wait. I hate dog shows, I just dump her a the show grounds in the morning and go find something a little more exciting to do, like watch paint dry. I have had some pretty good adventures on my own once I dropped her off. One time we were near a glider club at a small airport and I went up for a couple of hours everyday with an instructor. I had my pilots license but had only been in a glider once before then in Hawaii. Got some serious glider stunt flying under my belt on the dog show trip.
Well time to hit the hay and dream of having more adventures once this pandemic is done with.
All the best to all.
cudakenTold him, there is the door sir and the couple left with there Free Mask!
I'm just a dude with a bad back having a lot of fun with model trains, and finally building a layout!
Daytona Beach has been wonderful.
There is no one here. We had the beach to ourselves almost all afternoon. There are probably only 6-8 rooms in this hotel occupied.
I will be here all day tomorrow, then drive home on Wednesday after seeing my youngest baby in Orlando where she is visiting her (soon to be) in-laws.
Eveing Diners!
Flo, drinks are on my tab tonight and Dirk gets a dog treat.
Today was a good day at Work. I was a little busy and got out a little late. Had a tad over $3500.00 in sales.
All but one customer had mask on. Couple that did not I told them we have mask by the front door for your use. Went back to the coustomer I was writting up and saw the male of the couple had the free mask, but was not wearing it? I told him why he need to ware the mask because of my health problems and still did not put it on! Told him, there is the door sir and the couple left with there Free Mask! Not that I wanted them back anyway.
My wife is starting to hate Dirk Pip. I find that funny because after we lost Sparkie I did not want another dog. But she just had to have another dog becuase she is a "Dog Mom" so I gave in after a few weeks of her crying about wanting a dog! While I wished I never meet him, I am glad I did and we our his Forever Home plus he is my buddie.
Later, Ken and Dirk says Woof, Woof!
I have never had a kipper nor a sardine. My mother used to eat sardines. At 68 years old, I just googled and found out you don't eat the whole thing. You clean them like any other fish.
Now those dried up goldfish they sell in Asian stores, You eat the whole thing.
Hot and humid. Thunderstorms knocked out power just after dinner. Only a few minutes until they rebooted.
Henry
COB Potomac & Northern
Shenandoah Valley
Zoe - A gigantic RBF please. Thanks.
Ed - Thanks for moving the diner.
Ulrich - I can understand your not wishing to move into town. I like the peace and quiet of country living myself. Cities are nice to visit, but I dislike spending much more than a day or two at a time. Normal years I would have been to Cleveland at least once by now, with a weekend trip within the next 60 days, but this is not a "normal" year, so no Cleveland trip. While I always enjoy it, by the third day I am ready for much less traffic and fresh air. (Don't want the enjoyment of the event I'm attending to end, but am usually done with the traffic and the amount of people.)
Weather - Hot!!!! Have the chance to tie a record with most consecutive days above 90. Last time Erie hit 90+ for 5 days in a row was 32 years ago! Forecast is for just that, 5 days of 90+, with a humidex above 100 each day. (Only once on record has Erie hit that for longer than 5 consecutive days.) AC is working overtime, and it's still above 75 inside. (It's not central air, one downstairs, one upstairs. Really need 2 more, but holding off on spending a bunch of money right now.)
Music - Country music legend Charlie Daniels has passed away. He was best known for "Devil went down to Georgia", but instead, I will have the diner jukebox do a different hit...
(Hopefully I did the video right...)
Covid - A friend of mine is in isolation pending results. Erie County (where I live) now has more confirmed cases than all surrounding counties COMBINED. Then you hear of all the athletes, and others, who are testing positive, it's getting a bit scary again. It's definitely sticking around longer than I would like.
Interesting tidbit for the sports trivia buffs - Last race in NASCAR (Indy) is the first points race since 1993 that the #48 was driven by someone not named Jimmie Johnson. ( The current list of drivers includes several who we're not even around in 1993. Even more who were too young to remember it. )
W*^k - Am doing part time on a very enjoyable j*b, and can do it from home. While it's not what I normally did, and has no insurance options, it will easily get the bills paid. (And is a permanent position. )
gmpullman"My" guy uses a cherry picker and takes small chunks off as he works his way down the trunk. He calls himself a tree deconstructor.
I think that's what they'll use here, too. They came and looked this afternoon, but are still working on another project. They said maybe tomorrow.
I'm ready for it to be done. Trees don't grow here like they do in Ohio. We have to baby them for years. My wife grew up in Ohio and loved the trees.
I've written before that when we moved here, there was not a tree on our property. I planted nine pine trees and about 6 or 7 spruce trees across the back of the land. After 10 years, you could look out the back windows and see just a green screen at the edge of the land. I loved it.
Unfortunately, the pines have been attacked and are dying. They are over 30 feet high. The spruces are shorter and are still OK.
York1They are between buildings, so it will be interesting to see how they do it.
"My" guy uses a cherry picker and takes small chunks off as he works his way down the trunk. He calls himself a tree deconstructor.
Arborist by Edmund, on Flickr
The sunflowers are in bloom here:
Sunflower by Edmund, on Flickr
Look at all that pollen ready to blow into the air!
CNCharlieWe are getting tired of staying in the house and just doing shopping errands. Even then, it is just stay in the car to do a pickup. We'd like to go out for a lunch, meet our friends and go birding or something but it looks like we are stuck here for the foreseeable future. I guess we shouldn't really complain but it is wearing.
+1
Richard