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Broadway Limited Paragon2 versus Paragon3 motors

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Posted by richhotrain on Sunday, June 7, 2020 5:53 AM

HO Loco loco

Some Paragon3 projects were run with a 3 pole motor and some were ran with a 5 pole. 

I do not have a comprehensive list of what run had what motor installed - we don't keep records or spreadsheets like that 

It was helpful to get a response from BLI, but it does seem ridiculous not to keep records on which motor was installed with each project.

Rich

Alton Junction

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Posted by FlyingScotaman on Sunday, June 7, 2020 5:51 AM

Congratulations on getting a response from BLI. I've emailed them say 5 times in 15 years and never had a reply on anything I even recall in 2012 ordering and paying for a part and waiting 2 months for it to arrive and in the end I had to call them.

I would say normally if it's something that I can order impersonally online I have no issues.

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Posted by FlyingScotaman on Sunday, June 7, 2020 5:49 AM

Double post. Pardon et moi.

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Posted by Overmod on Saturday, June 6, 2020 5:56 PM

Very useful - thanks both to you and BLI.

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Broadway Limited Paragon2 versus Paragon3 motors
Posted by HO Loco loco on Saturday, June 6, 2020 5:52 PM

I asked BLI Technical Support if Paragon3 engines got different motors than Paragon2 engines.  There was some talk about P2's having skew-wound five-pole motors with carbon brushes and P3's having 3-pole copper-finger brush motors.  I also mentioned to them that P2's were advertised with 5-pole skew-wound motors, but P3's have no mention of that in their descriptions. 

Here is the answer I very promptly and courteously received from BLI Technical Support:

"The answer is that it depends on the locomotive.

Some Paragon3 projects were run with a 3 pole motor and some were ran with a 5 pole. 

I do not have a comprehensive list of what run had what motor installed - we don't keep records or spreadsheets like that - but I can tell you that beginning November 2019 all projects have the exact same 5 pole motor with a varistor installed to arrest any internal shorts or spikes in current.

They are very reliable and efficient.

I don't know why it's not advertised."

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