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Making realistic water

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Posted by BigDaddy on Wednesday, February 12, 2020 8:04 AM

I tried matte medium, not Modge Podge.  I don't remember why.  I was trying to achieve a Canadian Cascades look with different colors.  Colors could have been successful, but I had bubbles up the wahzoo.

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Posted by Srwill2 on Wednesday, February 12, 2020 12:05 AM

 I use 2 part epoxy - same product as I use for woodworking.  
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Posted by Srwill2 on Wednesday, February 12, 2020 12:04 AM

 I use 2 part epoxy - same product as I use for woodworking.  

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Posted by selector on Tuesday, February 11, 2020 12:38 PM

Add me to the list of those who use two-part epoxies.  I like Envirotex, but Swing Paints makes a good product called New Luster 55 or something like that.

I top the smooth layer with gel gloss medium to get a more wavy look.  I also add tiny drops of craft paints and some plaster of Paris powder to the epoxy so that it looks silted a bit, or at least turbid and semi-translucent.

 

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Posted by HO-Velo on Tuesday, February 11, 2020 12:09 PM

Lots of good examples and skill being shown here.  Another alternative is an old method that can work in some situations, plexiglass painted on the backside and topped with an acrylic medium for water effects. 

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Posted by mlehman on Tuesday, February 11, 2020 10:43 AM

Thanks for the kind comments!

To color two-part resins, I've found the colors used for stained glass work do the job effectively. These are water-based glass paints. Got mine at Michaels. A few drops are usually sufficient unless you're going for murky waterr, then use more.

To color the food grade silicone I used to highlight my falls I used standard acrylic white paint.

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Posted by mbinsewi on Tuesday, February 11, 2020 9:47 AM

There are products you can use to make the waves and ripples.  Modge Podge comes to mind, it dries clear.  There are others. 

I used the same silicone caulk that I used on the water fall, to make the waves and ripples, then I highlighted them with white paint.

For dark, murky, and muddy water, I guess you could add a little coloring, like maybe just a touch of dark green or brown, along with painting the bottom of the area a dark, greenish, brownish muddy color would help give the viewer a feeling of depth.

I've never added color, so I couldn't tell you what to use.  Good question?

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Posted by T.C. on Tuesday, February 11, 2020 9:38 AM
Sorry I did not know that, I have never poured any thing to make water . If I wanted to make waves or ripples AKA white water or dark muddy water, I would add color...........when ? Thanks T.C.
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Posted by mbinsewi on Tuesday, February 11, 2020 9:11 AM

T.C.
Can you add color to the Parks Glaze ?

Why would you want to?  To get the feeling of depth with any clear casting resin, or what Mel uses, it's all in the way you paint the area ( the bottom of the pond, lake, or stream) before pouring the resin.

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Posted by T.C. on Tuesday, February 11, 2020 9:07 AM

Can you add color to the Parks Glaze ?

Thanks T.C.

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Posted by kasskaboose on Tuesday, February 11, 2020 8:53 AM

Expect to get flooded (get it?!) with the number of available resources.  Have you seen how people make water on youtube?  You can spend hours there and other places, so care to please narrow the qustion a bit?  For examplel what type of water product(s) you hope to replicate?  Making realistic water requires far more than that.

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Posted by RR_Mel on Tuesday, February 11, 2020 8:46 AM

Mike
 
Maybe Photobucket is just playing with you, I can see your photo.
 
 
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Posted by mbinsewi on Tuesday, February 11, 2020 8:44 AM

Rich, OK, that worked for me, too.  I don't know whats up with PB now.  It has been working great since it's return.

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Posted by richhotrain on Tuesday, February 11, 2020 8:33 AM

mbinsewi

Great, now my picture doesn't even show!  I see just a plan little box!  Lessoned learned. Sigh 

Mike, when I click on the box, I can see your photo.

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Posted by RR_Mel on Tuesday, February 11, 2020 7:56 AM

Mike
 
I tried everything out there when I was making my pool and the only product that worked without problems was Magic Water and Parks.  I started out using WS Realistic Water and twice it turned into a brownish gunk after a couple of years. Envirotex was hard to work with, Magic Water worked excellent except for the cost.
 
The Parks Super Glaze works easily and is still looking like day one after several years and best of all it costs 82¢ per ounce at Big Box stores and no shipping costs or waiting time.
 
 
 
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Posted by mbinsewi on Tuesday, February 11, 2020 7:54 AM

OMG! Surprise  I see the good Dr. snuck in while I was posting.  Oh well, forget anything I showed. Laugh

Had I known my post would be following Wayne, I would have passed. Laugh

Mike.

PS. Great, now my picture doesn't even show!  I see just a plan little box!  Lessoned learned. Sigh

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Posted by richhotrain on Tuesday, February 11, 2020 7:50 AM

Wayne, you gotta stop using actual prototype photos and claiming that they are scenes from your layout.  Smile, Wink & Grin

Rich

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Posted by richhotrain on Tuesday, February 11, 2020 7:48 AM

Mike, that looks spectacular.

Rich

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Posted by mbinsewi on Tuesday, February 11, 2020 7:37 AM

Great Mel, there's that pool scene again, with me standing on the barrel peaking over the fence. Stick out tongue

I've never seen that product before, Mel.  I'll have to check it out.

I used the Envirotex.  The falls were made with a super clear silicone called Lexel.

Mike, I can hear the thunder of those falls, and feel the spray!  Nice.

Mike.

PS. Now that my Photobucket seems to be back up and running, I clicked on my own picture to see what I would get.  I get the picture, on a black back round, with some ads.  Indifferent

 

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Posted by doctorwayne on Tuesday, February 11, 2020 7:28 AM

I use Durabond 90 patching plaster, painted with interior latex housepaint, then give it a couple of coats of clear, high-gloss urethane...

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Posted by mlehman on Tuesday, February 11, 2020 1:19 AM

How's this?

Often, what you can combine with a water product is as important as the "water" itself. I used old school two-part casting resin to make my waterfall, the stuff that stinks for a week. The key was the base it was poured over.

I took some poly-fiber (what they stuff pillows and teddy bears with) and wrapped it in some plastic wrap. I fastened this tube-of-poly to the upper lip of the falls. Then I slit the front part of this tube of fiber open. I teased things out to represent the falling water. Then I mixed my resiin, pouring it down from the top of the falls. After the resin cured, I used food grade silicone with white pigment mixed in to highlight the churning water.

Another view of the full falls.

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Posted by RR_Mel on Monday, February 10, 2020 9:40 PM

The best product for making great water is Parks Super Glaze available at Big Box stores at a fourth the cost of hobby products.
 
 
 
 

 
 
 
 
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Posted by MisterBeasley on Monday, February 10, 2020 9:04 PM

I used Envirotex Lite.  It's a two part epoxy resin that takes about a day to set up.  I make several pours, each about 1/8  inch thick.  I like to tint each pour to add more of an illusion of depth.

If you keep the bottle tops and caps clean and cover the bottles tightly between uses, the product has a very long shelf life.

This can be a bit pricey, but it goes a long way.  I buy this at Michael's, a craft store.  Look for one of their ads and you can print out a coupon good for 40% off.

It takes an iron man to play with a toy iron horse. 

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Making realistic water
Posted by Camarokid65 on Monday, February 10, 2020 8:48 PM

How do you guys do it? Im just looking for some alternatives to the Woodland Scenics product, not that somethings wrong with it. Im just curious how you guys do it?

Del

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