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Chooch Enterprises - - - Going Out Of Business

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Chooch Enterprises - - - Going Out Of Business
Posted by richhotrain on Thursday, January 30, 2020 7:32 AM

Just got an email from Chooch.

The owner is retiring and no mention of a sale or continuation of the business.

Bummer.

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Posted by riogrande5761 on Thursday, January 30, 2020 7:41 AM

I may have a few items from Chooch.  The down side to many small companies, as well as hobby shops, is they are single owner and owner eventually retires.  Hopefully the product line will be taken over by another and products will continue to be made.  Otherwises it's going to be treasure hunt time.

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Posted by BigDaddy on Thursday, January 30, 2020 7:46 AM

Nooooo! Crying

I can't believe someone wouldn't pick up that line of business.

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Thursday, January 30, 2020 7:47 AM

I have a lot of Chooch loads and a couple of tunnel portals. I have not been happy with their flexible walls of late.

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American Model Builder's loads are much better.

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There are already other companies making products similar to what is in the Chooch line, and there is plenty of Chooch product at train shows.

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This is not as bad an NWSL leaving last year. That could have been a real hole in the product line.

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Posted by mbinsewi on Thursday, January 30, 2020 7:54 AM

You won't know it going by the their web site.

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PS.  OOOPS, just seen the announcement on facebook.  Never mind.

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Posted by NVSRR on Thursday, January 30, 2020 8:05 AM

Time to make a shopping list again

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Posted by Brammy on Thursday, January 30, 2020 8:53 AM

Dang, I really like their flexible coal loads. Time to stock up.

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Posted by chutton01 on Thursday, January 30, 2020 10:05 AM

Brammy

Dang, I really like their flexible coal loads. Time to stock up.

 

It may be a bit late - I just looked at the HO freight loads, and most of the products were listed as OUT OF PRODuCTION (with a majority of the remainding loads listed as 'Currently Out Of Stock', including the coal and ore loads.

Odd, because I thought they were recently introducing new items like the 'Clamshell Road' (I saw a mention in MR, and it's mentioned as new on their website), although items like Portals, Walls, and roads seem to be available.

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Posted by Brammy on Thursday, January 30, 2020 11:20 AM

chutton01

It may be a bit late - I just looked at the HO freight loads, and most of the products were listed as OUT OF PRODuCTION (with a majority of the remainding loads listed as 'Currently Out Of Stock', including the coal and ore loads.

Odd, because I thought they were recently introducing new items like the 'Clamshell Road' (I saw a mention in MR, and it's mentioned as new on their website), although items like Portals, Walls, and roads seem to be available. 

 

Dealers still have them, at least. For now.

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Posted by dknelson on Thursday, January 30, 2020 1:37 PM

I got the same email from Chooch.  I'll miss seeing and chatting with Mike at Trainfest.

I have used several of their products such as their resin cut-stone retaining walls.  The hard solid resin ones: like one of the other posters above, I am not that impressed by their newer flexible, rubbery line of products.  Chooch has gone through many iterations over the years - at one time they had O scale rolling stock if memory serves.  So the tooling they'd have available for sale would be varied and considerable.

Sometimes these announcements are made, with no reference to selling to a new owner or even shopping the product line to new owners, but it happens anyway.  NWSL is an example.   Boley is another. 

But to my surprise I believe the tooling for the Jordan line of vehicles and carriages is still sitting idle.  Kind of surprised Walthers has not acquired it and shipped it to China for production.

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Posted by gmpullman on Thursday, January 30, 2020 2:03 PM

dknelson
Jordan line of vehicles and carriages is still sitting idle.  Kind of surprised Walthers has not acquired it and shipped it to China for production.

I'm still hopeful that Dave Tichy would somehow pick up the Jordan line. That, to me, would seem to be a better fit in the "target market" scheme of things.

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Posted by mbinsewi on Thursday, January 30, 2020 2:06 PM

Where I seen the anouncement on Facebook, it was from an online retailer, who goes on to say all of the Cooch line can be bought through them, as long as supplies last.

I can't find the add again, or the name.  Probably just a ploy to get you to buy from them anyway, even though they seemed to have a personal connection to Cooch.

I've never used much of their stuff, as it mostly deals with the transition era.

I guess their rock and wall casting would be usable, no matter your time frame.

Their web site is still up, so I guess if you want something from them, better get it now.

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Posted by chutton01 on Thursday, January 30, 2020 4:13 PM

gmpullman
dknelson
Jordan line of vehicles and carriages is still sitting idle.  Kind of surprised Walthers has not acquired it and shipped it to China for production.

I'm still hopeful that Dave Tichy would somehow pick up the Jordan line. That, to me, would seem to be a better fit in the "target market" scheme of things.

OK, this seems like a good place to mention something I heard at the Tichy booth at this past weekend's Amherst Model Railroad show. In line to purchase several detail parts, another customer was talking with one of the two people manning the booth (I guess Don Tichy & his wife/girlfriend? The two were there last year).  Regardless, Mr. Tichy said not only would they [Jordan Estate] not sell him the tooling, but to the best of his knowledge the tooling had been destroyed. They begin speculating on why, but I just kept quiet, paid for my detail parts and left.

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Posted by Jimmy_Braum on Thursday, January 30, 2020 4:17 PM

chutton01

 

 
gmpullman
dknelson
Jordan line of vehicles and carriages is still sitting idle.  Kind of surprised Walthers has not acquired it and shipped it to China for production.

I'm still hopeful that Dave Tichy would somehow pick up the Jordan line. That, to me, would seem to be a better fit in the "target market" scheme of things.

 

 

OK, this seems like a good place to mention something I heard at the Tichy booth at this past weekend's Amherst Model Railroad show. In line to purchase several detail parts, another customer was talking with one of the two people manning the booth (I guess Don Tichy & his wife/girlfriend? The two were there last year).  Regardless, Mr. Tichy said not only would they [Jordan Estate] not sell him the tooling, but to the best of his knowledge the tooling had been destroyed. They begin speculating on why, but I just kept quiet, paid for my detail parts and left.

 

 

sure its their right, but that is terrible. 

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Posted by drgwcs on Thursday, January 30, 2020 11:27 PM

Jimmy_Braum

 

 
chutton01

 

 
gmpullman
dknelson
Jordan line of vehicles and carriages is still sitting idle.  Kind of surprised Walthers has not acquired it and shipped it to China for production.

I'm still hopeful that Dave Tichy would somehow pick up the Jordan line. That, to me, would seem to be a better fit in the "target market" scheme of things.

 

 

OK, this seems like a good place to mention something I heard at the Tichy booth at this past weekend's Amherst Model Railroad show. In line to purchase several detail parts, another customer was talking with one of the two people manning the booth (I guess Don Tichy & his wife/girlfriend? The two were there last year).  Regardless, Mr. Tichy said not only would they [Jordan Estate] not sell him the tooling, but to the best of his knowledge the tooling had been destroyed. They begin speculating on why, but I just kept quiet, paid for my detail parts and left.

 

 

 

 

sure its their right, but that is terrible. 

 

 

Wow if true on Jordan that is such a shame- the last anyone had heard the family wanted a lot for the tooling. (At least that was what was floating around months back) It sounded a lot like that in the recent case of Rio Grande Models and that the tooling was going to be destroyed. That was an even weirder case as suddenly one day it said it was closed- (Then conflicting things were posted) no notice no nothing- the only way to but anything was to go to the house or one hobby shop. I hate to hear this about chooch. kind of surprising as they were still introducing new products???

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Posted by kasskaboose on Friday, January 31, 2020 9:13 AM

Brammy

Dang, I really like their flexible coal loads. Time to stock up.

You can easily make your own coal loads.  Just cut foam pieces, paint it black and add crushed foam on top.  Easy, fast, and cheap!

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Posted by rrebell on Friday, January 31, 2020 4:57 PM

Chooch never made any (can't live without) items, so no big loss (I do like their loads and inspection pits though).

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Monday, February 3, 2020 7:58 AM

My favorite items in the Chooch line have not been mae in a long time. These were the small branchline structure kits.

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Chooch made a lot of great products through the years, and a lot of it was short run.

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Posted by richhotrain on Friday, October 16, 2020 10:36 PM

Got a notice from Chooch Enterprises today that the business has been sold to Walthers.

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Friday, October 16, 2020 11:08 PM

Regarding Rich's post .  I saw a Walthers ad saying they are acquiring Chooch. 

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Posted by richhotrain on Saturday, October 17, 2020 5:40 AM

 Here is Kalmbach's take on the acquisition of Chooch Enterprises by Walthers:

https://mrr.trains.com/news-reviews/new-products/2020/10/walthers-buys-chooch-enterprises

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Posted by dknelson on Saturday, October 17, 2020 10:34 AM

A friend who works at Walthers told me that they are expecting to get LOTS of product from Chooch starting this coming week.  Including new items.  Evidently an entire building was filled with product.  

I wonder if the tooling for the freight cars and structures (which have not been made in years and years)  will be in some box or another.  There might be someone out there interested in bringing it back if the tooling is in shape.

Dave Nelson

 

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