Title says it all. I'm looking for late 1800s steam locomotives from Europe, specifically engines similar to the famous French 2-4-0 type 120 engine that was in this famous accident:
I don't care what scale its in, I'd like to start a layout using the beautiful old engines from this time period. Are there any companies that make these?
Thanks!
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We have a few EU members so maybe one of them has seen something like that. I'm pretty sure that it has never been made by US manufacturers. Most of us choose our scale first, but you might not have that luxury if you are looking for that particular loco.
Henry
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Late 1800s steam engine of European origin are very rare. Your best try would be to look at what Hornby offers. Some years ago, Hornby bought the brands of Lima, Rivarossi (both former Italien btands) and Jouef, a French brand, as well as Electrotren from Spain. Jouef has this little engine from the period of your choice:
This seems to be the only French steam engine from that period.
Liliput, a subsidiary of Bachmann, has this Austrian beauty for you.
Fulgurex from Switzerland markets handcrafted engines, like this Swiss Mogul:
Just a word of warning - Fulgurex is quite expensive.
Hornby prducts can be obtained through Hatton´s in UK, Liliput through Eurorail Hobbies.
Happy times!
Ulrich (aka The Tin Man)
"You´re never too old for a happy childhood!"
British OO scale from Bachmann and Hornby might have a few things worth checking. It's worth noting though most mainland Europe modeling is done in HO scale, but the British primarily use OO scale instead. It runs on HO gauge track, but the models ars much larger than true HO scale.
xboxtravis7992It's worth noting though most mainland Europe modeling is done in HO scale, but the British primarily use OO scale instead. It runs on HO gauge track, but the models ars much larger than true HO scale.
Well, HO scale is the dominant scale in continental Europe, followed by N scale and TT scale. Britain is different. British railway modeling is in OO scale, which is 1/76, running on 16.5mm track. The correct gauge in that scale would be 18.2mm, which is called EM gauge across the Channel. British N scale is 1/144 scale, instead of 1/160 in the rest of the world, excluding Japan, where it is 1/150 scale.
Bachmann has quite a number of steam engines which would fit a fin de siecle theme, but they look definitively British with their inside cylinders, "clean" boilers and striped paint jobs.
Look for yourself:
https://www.bachmann.co.uk/product-category/bachmann-branchline/locomotives/?product-page=1
Here is a link to Hornby steam engines:
https://www.hornby.com/uk-en/shop/locomotives/steam-locomotives.html
Oxford Rail has an interesting 0-6-0 from the 1880s.
http://www.oxfordrail.com/76/OR76DG.htm
Most of the models are equpped with DCC and a NEM coupler pocket, which means exchanging the rather unsightly tension lock coupler with a Kadee coupler is just "a click".
Try https://www.reynaulds.com/index.a spx Many brands.They probably have what you want.
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Many european manufacturers use numbered eras to desiginate time periods for their rolling stock:
So you're looking for Era I rolling stock. Nailing it down to the first part of that era, though, may be more difficult.
Gary
Gary - era I is usually understood as the pre-WW I era. While there are some engines and rolling stock in the market from that era, they are mainly those, who also made it into era II and even era III. The time before 1900 is very much under- represented, aside from sets of models of the baby years of railroads, i.e. The Rocket of 1829 of the Stockton and Darlington Rlwy. in UK or "Der Adler" of 1835 of the first railway to open in Germany between Nuremberg and Fuerth (the line is now part of the Nuremberg streetcar system). Mass-produced models of later periods, say, the 1870s to 1890s´s, are as rare as hen´s theeth or even worse, as abundant as the Moa bird.
Spalato68Trix also has models from Epoch I. This is very affordable, beautiful set with Prussian locomotive T2)
Unfortunately, this isn´t a Prussian T2, but a Bavarian PtL 2/2. This type of engine never made it into Prussia!
The Prussian T2 looked like this.
Verybmuch like a T3 which has lost a set of wheels!
Trix at one time had this beauty in their range of products:
Fleichmann sells this one:
Both engines were Bavarian engines.
Roco/Fleischmann have a Prussian P 4.2 of 1891 origin:
I think this is more like what the OP had in mind.
Ulrich,
thank you for the correction regarding T2 / PtL 2/2, although I am confused why then so many sellers are listing this locomotive as KPEV T2, for example:
https://www.ebay.de/itm/Trix-22411-Dampflok-Glaskasten-T2-6081-Altona-KPEV-EP-1-KK-OVP-NEUW-MF287/392561889502?hash=item5b668310de:g:MEAAAOSw2BFda~W3
https://www.ebay.de/itm/Trix-H0-22411-Glaskasten-grun-K-P-E-V-T2-6081-brunierte-Rader-Ep-I-gepruft/123951172664?hash=item1cdc10cc38:g:BJoAAOSwDCFd2StN
I do not know train (design) history that well - I assume that both locomotives maybe have the same/similar design origin. More on BR 98 (Glaskasten) can be found here:
http://www.modellbau-wiki.de/wiki/BR_98 - here it says that there are 29 different variations of this locomotive series/type.
I like this locomotve very much (I have from Epoch 3, DB BR 98). It is extremely small, but cute in a way.
Anyway, I think OP has received a plenty of suggestions...-:)
Hrvoje
Without the intention to hijack this thread - here is a bit of backgroung on the T 2 steam engine.
After WW I, all of the railroads of the former member states of the German Empire were merged to form the Deutsche Reichsbahn, which then established a uniform numbering and classification system. All tank engines serving second class branchlines of local importance only were classified as class 98, regardless of their wheel arrangement. Hence two completely different engines in the same class. Just an example:
Class 98 subclass 0:
Class 98 subclass 1:
Class 98 subclass 78:
The DRG Class 98 was a kind of melting pot for steam engines that didn´t fit into all other categories.
Btw, that Trix "Glass House" engine was built after 1905.