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Kling Ladles
Posted by banjobenne1 on Friday, September 27, 2019 7:08 PM

I have three of the HO scale Kling Ladles from State Tool and Die with out wheels. Does any one know how many empty ladles I can place on a 40' 50 ton flat car? Thank you for your time.

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Posted by maxman on Friday, September 27, 2019 8:20 PM

banjobenne1

I have three of the HO scale Kling Ladles from State Tool and Die with out wheels. Does any one know how many empty ladles I can place on a 40' 50 ton flat car? Thank you for your time.

 

I loaded one:

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Posted by gmpullman on Friday, September 27, 2019 8:26 PM

This car has one:

 How to tie down an oversize load. by Harold Mickley, on Flickr

I bought a pair of these Artitech ladles and temporarily set them on this rather under-rated flat car, way too light for such a heavy load.

 Ladle_load1 by Edmund, on Flickr

Of course, these are slag ladles so probably a bit lighter than a brick-lined Kling ladle.

On a fifty-ton flat car I'd stick with only one ladle. One book I have lists an unlined teeming ladle at 30 tons.

Cheers, Ed

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Posted by banjobenne1 on Thursday, January 2, 2020 4:29 PM

Too late now, already mounted two on a 50 ton car.

 

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Posted by doctorwayne on Thursday, January 2, 2020 5:01 PM

banjobenne1

Too late now, already mounted two on a 50 ton car.

 

I'd guess that it wouldn't look too incorrect if you placed them both near the ends of the car, with the weight over the trucks.

These steel castings are on a 70 ton car...

...but I didn't bother calculating the weight, as they float in water.  I suppose that I could have held them down with a screwdriver or skewer, to determine their cubic displacement and then their supposed weight, but perhaps another time. Whistling

I recently purchased some ingot moulds from State Tool & Die, and while I'm not modelling the steel industry, I did work in it, and do service an unmodelled plant on my layout.
I recall new moulds arriving in gondolas, usually two to a car, with each placed over the trucks.  I was told that a mould weighs approximately the same as the ingot that's poured into it, but it's not clear if that includes the weight of the mould-stool, too.
The moulds which I bought are for 43" ingots, which are roughly ten tons as poured.  Mine included the stools, so two moulds and two stools per 50 ton gondola, although at the plant were I worked, the moulds arrived in 70 ton gondolas, two-to-a-car. 
We produced ingots from 25"x25", to 30"x60" and 25"x72", with a wide assortment of in-between sizes, and those smaller ones might have been four-to-a-car.

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Posted by gmpullman on Thursday, January 2, 2020 6:16 PM

Ten minutes well spent looking at steel production in 1944, Youngstown, Ohio:

Regards, Ed

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Posted by doctorwayne on Thursday, January 2, 2020 8:26 PM

It was certainly a more labour-intensive industry than when I worked in it, and it's become much more automated  since then, too.  A lot of the mills which were important when I was there, are now gone, completely replaced by newer technology.

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Posted by carl425 on Thursday, January 2, 2020 10:20 PM

Cool video, Ed.

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