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Extreme Weathering Silliness, Bordering on Stupidity

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Posted by ricktrains4824 on Saturday, August 31, 2019 2:21 PM

Drumguy - It looks good to me!

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Posted by doctorwayne on Wednesday, August 28, 2019 4:35 PM

Overmod
We need to move the GERN posts to their own ongoing thread, so posterity can appreciate them properly.

I appreciate the suggestion, but there's a GERN thread located HERE.  While it started as one for GERN rolling stock, any forum member there can add info and photos of their own GERN facilities.

As for the GERN advertising, it's sent out via e-mail, as attachments, whenever my brother sends me new stuff. 
Anyone interested in receiving that material can simply send me a PM here which includes their e-mail address, and I'll respond with several e-mails of attachments covering everything I have up the current time.  After that, I'll send out new material as I receive it.

And just to make it very plain to our kind hosts here, there is no requirement for anyone to join that forum, as it's open to anyone for viewing, and for those interested in receiving the ads and related stuff, no requirements other than the aforementioned PM here, with your contact info.

While GERN is somewhat whimsical, it can be a very effective traffic generator, providing lots of excuses to buy rolling stock which you might otherwise not be able to justify on your layout.  Above all, I hope that anyone interested in this concept will have some fun with it.

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Posted by Overmod on Wednesday, August 28, 2019 10:03 AM

We need to move the GERN posts to their own ongoing thread, so posterity can appreciate them properly.

Note that "GERN" means 'good' or 'well appreciated' in German, and I highly suspect in Yiddish.  

Strongly suspect by now they'd be a subsidiary of the 'ə' conglomerate which among other things bought some of the IP rights from both ACME and Ideal Systems in Cambridge some time ago.

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Posted by Medina1128 on Tuesday, August 27, 2019 7:17 PM

A few years ago in a thread about locomotive weathering. Another modeler posted this as his first attempt at weathering. I still crack up when I run across his picture.

 

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Posted by doctorwayne on Tuesday, August 27, 2019 6:54 PM

hon30critter

Wayne, you are a riot!!!LaughLaughLaughLaughBowYes

Thanks for the laughs!

Dave

 
Thanks, Dave, but my brother Steven is the one responsible for the ads.  Most of the ones posted are from a large calendar which he made for me in 2013 (and which I'm also using this year, as the days and dates match-up perfectly).
Other than that, he sends new material on an irregular basis, as he creates it, and I forward it to all the GERN modellers on my list.
 
He also occasionally creates a "local" paper - it's based, I think, on The Wiarton Echo of our childhood.  When we visited relatives within that general area, it was sometimes noted that so&so entertained visitors from southern Ontario....very common small-town practice where there was a very limited once-a-week newspaper...and, naturally, both hosts and visitors were usually named. 
 
In that vein, I offer you edition 1 of the Harold Gleaner:
 
 
A click on the image should yield a legible version.
 
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Posted by Eilif on Tuesday, August 27, 2019 5:07 PM

Nice Work Drumguy!  Looks real to me.

Living on the West Side of Chicago I have ample opportunity to see incredibly worn railcars and delapidated terrain nearly every day. 

The grime of reality is such that, I rarely see any weathered models that I would consider "silliness, bordering on stupidity".  Rather my usual thought is "yep I've seen something like that".   

Of course poorly-executed weathering often betrays the methods used (brush marks, spray spatter, etc) and yet I'm shocked at how often I see examples in reality that are not dissimilar to "poorly" weathered models.   It's not unusual to see a real heavily worn railcar that if faithfully recreated in miniature might evoke incredulity and suggestions that it is "unrealistic" or "overdone".

I love Seilos work and those of similar artists, and what I mainly find unrealistic -though it bothers me not at all- is the uniformity of age and grime.  Even here in the 'hood we have a mix of new and old construction in vastly different states of repair, often mixed on the same block.  That said, I've never seen such a mix well-executed on an actual model railroad.  Further, I wonder whether if such a mix of old/new, clean/dirty and maintained/disrepair were achieved, it would look incongruous to our eyes that have become accustomed to more uniformity in our layouts.

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Posted by Harrison on Tuesday, August 27, 2019 7:04 AM

Great work! Your weathering almost matches George Sellios.

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Posted by hon30critter on Tuesday, August 27, 2019 1:42 AM

Wayne, you are a riot!!!LaughLaughLaughLaughBowYes

Thanks for the laughs!

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Posted by OT Dean on Tuesday, August 27, 2019 1:01 AM

Hmmm.  This reminds me a little of the HOn30 project railroad in RMC, 'way back when, where the railroad was built to service a stannous fluoride mine.

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Posted by doctorwayne on Monday, August 26, 2019 11:48 PM

Drumguy
Wayne: does Gern Industries have anything to do with the old Steve Martin routine where he says his real name is Gern Blahnsten, and he actually earns his living from his audio book cassette series “Learn with Gern”? Goofy fun stuff.

No, nothing to do with that.  It actually dates to the mid-'50s, when my brother and I used to play table hockey.  We used a full schedule with four teams each and all of the players were named, enabling us to keep statistics on scoring, saves, etc. 
One of his players was Charles "Cookie" Gibson, a high-scoring centre.  Somehow, it evolved in my brother's fertile brain (there's a direct connection to fertiliser, I think) that Cookie Gibson was a "flux magnate". 

GERN (always all-caps) is an acronym for "Gibson's Extraordinary Remedial Naturalized" flux, as evidenced by this advertisement from the late 1800s/early 1900s...

As it evolved, GERN brand flux makes pretty-well anything at least 3% better.

The Gibson Works, in Port Maitland, Ontario, was featured on the cover of the December issue of Popular Flux Magazine...

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Posted by garya on Monday, August 26, 2019 9:28 PM

Drumguy

 

 
SeeYou190

It looks really good to me.

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I love all of the character you brough out in the kitbashed model.

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-Kevin

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Thanks, Kevin. It’s always a fine lne for me between whimsical and some sort of believability. I want it to look authentically early 1950’s at a glance, but I also want it to have a siginifican’t— but not overtly obvious—sense of fun.

 

I say you succeeded.Yes  Nice to see the word "fun."

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Posted by Drumguy on Monday, August 26, 2019 9:05 PM

Thanks for all the kind comments, very much appreciated and encouraging. United Coagulants is just sitting in a temporary spot. When I find a home for it, it will be in a fairly disgusting locale, maybe I’ll put an out of scale 3 eyed frog hiding under the loading dock. When the structure is lit up, there’s a faint green light emanating from the holding tanks. I was gonna add some sort of pulsing effect to the light, but figured that’s just too much. 

Wayne: does Gern Industries have anything to do with the old Steve Martin routine where he says his real name is Gern Blahnsten, and he actually earns his living from his audio book cassette series “Learn with  Gern”? Goofy fun stuff.

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Posted by kasskaboose on Monday, August 26, 2019 11:36 AM

This is really well done.  I like the effort. It looks quite realistic! 

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Posted by doctorwayne on Monday, August 26, 2019 11:21 AM

Drumguy
...Behold United Coagulants (a divison of the yet-to-be-modelled "Central Congealing").

I like the modelling and the weathering effects, too, and I especially like the names you've chosen for the industries.

It seems to be in the same vein as my GERN Industries and its plethora of essential products that everyone needs, like this....

Realistic modelling with a bit of whimsy thrown in.

Wayne

 

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Posted by riogrande5761 on Monday, August 26, 2019 8:31 AM

Sometimes I see weathing bordering on stupidity but in this case, not so.

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Posted by Doughless on Monday, August 26, 2019 8:21 AM

I don't think the weathering is either silly or stupid.  I think it's well done.

If you're interested in having it look more like the photos, I'd say to add similar weathering to the overall grounds.  Turn the industrial building into an industrial "site".

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Posted by mobilman44 on Monday, August 26, 2019 4:50 AM

To the OP........GREAT MODELING!!

I've been around railroad facilities, factories and especially various refineries since the mid '50s.  What the OP modeled was (and is today to a point) the "usual" in earlier years.  

In example, I worked three years at a vegetable oil refinery in Louisville ('67-'69) and it was on par with the previous posters photos.  As germs don't inhabit vegetable oils, no one went overboard on "neat and clean and pretty".  

The thing is, most of us (esp. those that model earlier years) do not want to show the dirt and grime and debris that was the norm at terminals and yards and other RR facilities.  To me, it would just be depressing........realistic, but depressing.

 

ENJOY  !

 

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Posted by HO-Velo on Sunday, August 25, 2019 9:44 PM

Drumguy
in awe of Selios’ Skill

Drum Guy,  Nice gon wreckin'.  I'm with ya', Selios is the man and so is the Doc.  Gettin' the right mix of 'the other side of the tracks' versus well kept is a tough cookie and a delicate dance.   Regards,  Peter

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Posted by gmpullman on Sunday, August 25, 2019 9:04 PM

Drumguy
As much as I am in awe of Selios’ Skill, I’m with a lot of folks here that full on post-apocalyptic depression era with 70 pitch roofs is a bit over the top.

Oh, I agree with you there, even Mr. Selios finally realized this and spruced things up a bit on his layout recently. A little goes a long way. Yes, there were some pretty run-down areas on both sides of the tracks (in any era, not just Depression years) but I'm in agreement that, for our layouts, a little gentle wear-n-tear is a much more pleasant scene.

I recall the article by E.L. Moore, perhaps in RMC, for his version of the Molasses Mine which the AHM model was copied from. Actually, before Selios, I think EL Moore added quite a bit of character to his projects with careful use of age and weathering.

 

Anybody remember the great molasses flood of 1919?

https://www.npr.org/2019/01/15/685154620/a-deadly-tsunami-of-molasses-in-bostons-north-end

 

We had one of those at GE, too! (not molasses but polymerized mud):

 CWW_South-tank by Edmund, on Flickr

 

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Posted by Drumguy on Sunday, August 25, 2019 8:54 PM

gmpullman

 

 
Drumguy
Ed, that is straight out damnably terrifying.

 

Amazing what you can get used to for a paycheck! Radioactive? Yep, cobalt and thorium contamination Ick! we called it "home" though Whistling

Keep up the good modeling. You can be the next Industrial george Selios Big Smile

Cheers, Ed

 

As much as I am in awe of Selios’ Skill, I’m with a lot of folks here that full on post-apocalyptic depression era with 70 pitch roofs is a bit over the top. But the guy is a master, there is no denying it. Maybe Dr. Wayne can match his skill, but the majority of us can only admire, criticize, or shrug with humble indifference. Ultimately I want a really scudgy chunk of a town on my layout. But it’s just an interesting chunk, not the whole thing.

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Posted by hon30critter on Sunday, August 25, 2019 8:44 PM

Drumguy!

Great modelling. I don't think the weathering is overdone at all. The gon is beautiful!

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Posted by Drumguy on Sunday, August 25, 2019 8:43 PM

SeeYou190

It looks really good to me.

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I love all of the character you brough out in the kitbashed model.

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-Kevin

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Thanks, Kevin. It’s always a fine lne for me between whimsical and some sort of believability. I want it to look authentically early 1950’s at a glance, but I also want it to have a siginifican’t— but not overtly obvious—sense of fun.

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Posted by gmpullman on Sunday, August 25, 2019 8:39 PM

Drumguy
Ed, that is straight out damnably terrifying.

Amazing what you can get used to for a paycheck! Radioactive? Yep, cobalt and thorium contamination Ick! we called it "home" though Whistling

For this I went to school?

 CWW_jan29_0038 by Edmund, on Flickr

Keep up the good modeling. You can be the next Industrial George Selios Big Smile

Cheers, Ed

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Posted by Drumguy on Sunday, August 25, 2019 8:34 PM

Ed, that is straight out damnably terrifying. 

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Sunday, August 25, 2019 8:02 PM

It looks really good to me.

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I love all of the character you brough out in the kitbashed model.

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Posted by BigDaddy on Sunday, August 25, 2019 7:49 PM

I don't think it's extreme at all, I think the buildings behind and to the right need more weathering.

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Posted by gmpullman on Sunday, August 25, 2019 7:26 PM

Drumguy
So I decided to kitbash it with a Walthers sand and gravel kit to create the most rust-ridden and (possibly) radioactive slime infested place on earth.

Sounds just like the place I worked in for 38 years. Not so unbelievable Tongue Tied

 PA300029 by Edmund, on Flickr

 IMG_0912 by Edmund, on Flickr

I like it! Looks like those fellows on the clarifier tank could use a railing, though Whistling

Nice work Yes thanks for sharing.

Regards, Ed

 

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Extreme Weathering Silliness, Bordering on Stupidity
Posted by Drumguy on Sunday, August 25, 2019 6:36 PM

When  was a kid I had the Lifelike or whatever "molasses mine". I thought it was the coolest thing ever. Fast forward 40 years I find one on eBay. So I decided to kitbash it with a Walthers sand and gravel kit to create the most rust-ridden and (possibly) radioactive slime infested place on earth. The last place on earth you would want to work. Behold United Coagulants (a divison of the yet-to-be-modelled "Central Congealing").

The Mobile Coagulator (No. 3) is 95% 3D printed on a very afordable Robo R1+, with a few random scraps addded. And who doesnt love to just wreck an occasional gon?

Heat gun, wee bit of airbrush, and a lot of Rust-All.

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