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Help with a Life-Like (P2K?) SW7

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Help with a Life-Like (P2K?) SW7
Posted by SPSOT fan on Saturday, June 15, 2019 4:28 PM

Hi everyone!

About a year ago I purchased a Life-Like SW7 used from a used train shop. It didn't come with any exploded view drawing and such, and wasn't in it's original box.

I is a good runner but I suspect the previous owner dropped it as it has brocken handrails, and worse, the shell does not clip on to the frame well, and it doesn't appear that there were ever and screws holding it in place.

If anyone has drawing of the loco this could help me take it apart further. I am ecpecially interested in how to take apart the trucks, as there is some dust and dirt in the wheel I would like to clean out.

Also the lights don't work. I don't know if the bulbs are burnt out or if there is an issue with the contects. There are no wires connecting the headlights to the cicuit board, just these sprung, clip things.

Any other help and advice relating to getting this loco fixed up is welcome, and please let me know I you need more info in order to figure out what's wrong with it.

Thanks in advance everyone!

Regards, Isaac

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Posted by SPSOT fan on Saturday, June 15, 2019 4:29 PM

If it help figure out what version of the Life-Like SW7 this is, the model is painted in Great Northern's Orange and Green Scheme and number 16.

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Posted by tstage on Saturday, June 15, 2019 4:45 PM

SPSOT fan
Also the lights don't work. I don't know if the bulbs are burnt out or if there is an issue with the contects. There are no wires connecting the headlights to the cicuit board, just these sprung, clip things.

Isaac,

You can always connect the headlights to the + and - terminals of a 1.5V or 9V battery and test them out that way.  Try the 1.5V first.  If the light doesn't light then try the 9V.  Most likely it's a 12V incandescent bulb.

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Saturday, June 15, 2019 6:46 PM

Also try the 1.5 battery in both polarities in case the lights are LEDs they will only light in one direction of current flow.

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Posted by gmpullman on Saturday, June 15, 2019 7:02 PM

SPSOT fan
If it help figure out what version of the Life-Like SW7 this is, the model is painted in Great Northern's Orange and Green Scheme and number 16.

Perhaps some mention of the scale would narrow down the search as well.

I have a sheet for the HO L-L SW8/900/600. I see an SW9/1200 in N scale. SW7 in the OLD Life-Like line?

Is it like this? It happens to be N scale but it is listed as an SW9.

https://tinyurl.com/yxvkn45m

This link shows the HO SW8/900/600/1200

http://tcsdcc.com/installation/ho-scale/1431

 OR does it look like this one?

http://www.spookshow.net/loco/llsw.html

 

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Posted by SPSOT fan on Saturday, June 15, 2019 7:12 PM

I made a trip to my LHS and talked to the guys there. We figured out that the issue with the lights was because the wires between the frame and shell connect through a spring that doesn't get enough contect. I guess I'll have to hard wire it someday once I develop the skill. Unfortunaty one of the tabs that attaches the shell to the frame is broke off, so the loco may need a new shell anyway.

I may need to contact Walthers about that. If anyone knows how to do that advice on that would be helpful.

Also exploded view diagrams would be nice. If anyone knows how to get those please chime in!

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Posted by tstage on Saturday, June 15, 2019 7:51 PM

Can anyone at the shop just bypass the spring and hardwire the headlight(s) to track power?  Problem solved...

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Posted by gmpullman on Saturday, June 15, 2019 9:17 PM

tstage
Can anyone at the shop just bypass the spring and hardwire the headlight(s) to track power?

If he is actually referencing the N scale model, the "spring" is the collector for the track power as well. It contacts two tabs on the trucks to supply power to each half of the split-frame/weight and in turn, the motor AND headlight. Hard-wiring that would be a challenge for the best electrical wizard.

See the spookshow link above.

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Posted by BigDaddy on Sunday, June 16, 2019 7:55 AM

The OP had a previous post on an HO GE 70 tonner, so presumably this is an old HO Lifelike.

Walthers is going to be of no help for parts. 

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Posted by mbinsewi on Sunday, June 16, 2019 10:37 AM

We will have to wait for the OP's response as to what scale he's talking about.  Funny that he didn't mention that in his first post. Confused

I'm kinda thinkin' it's N scale, since he mentions the spring part in his last post.

Here's another interesting link to a decoder install in a LL N scale SW9/1200:

http://n-scale-dcc.blogspot.com/2011/10/tcs-z2-in-life-like-sw91200.html

Here's a parts diagram:

http://www.hrccomputing.com/nscale/SW9.gif

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Posted by gmpullman on Sunday, June 16, 2019 1:37 PM

mbinsewi
Here's a parts diagram:

Wow! I never saw a scan at ten dots per inch but sure enough, there it is Whistling

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Posted by mbinsewi on Sunday, June 16, 2019 2:16 PM

gmpullman
Wow! I never saw a scan at ten dots per inch but sure enough, there it is 

Laugh  That's I thought too.  Found it on a Google search.  Someone ought to start a Nseeker site. 

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Posted by SPSOT fan on Sunday, June 16, 2019 6:51 PM

tstage

Can anyone at the shop just bypass the spring and hardwire the headlight(s) to track power?  Problem solved...

Yes, I could have them do that, thoug it would cost money, and even though it wouldn't be much, I don't exactly have a large hobby budget...

Also the shell doesn't sit on the frame nice and really can't be fixed... So I'm not terribly anxious to put work into hardwiring it... and I don't have soldering iron an don't know how to solder... really need to learn that skill!

 

Appologies for making you guy try to read my thoughts and figure out what scale I'm in! I do both HO and N scale, but this model is in HO.

Tried to see if Walther had anywhere you could get an extra shell on their website, and they don't have it as far as I can see! Not terribly impressed with Walthers, may need to check Ebay!

Thanks everyone for your help!

Regards, Isaac

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Posted by gmpullman on Sunday, June 16, 2019 7:02 PM

SPSOT fan
Tried to see if Walther had anywhere you could get an extra shell on their website, and they don't have it as far as I can see! Not terribly impressed with Walthers,

It is a fifteen or twenty-year old model. How long should they stock parts for it?

Just sayin'.

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Posted by SPSOT fan on Sunday, June 16, 2019 7:07 PM

gmpullman

It is a fifteen or twenty-year old model. How long should they stock parts for it?

Just sayin'.

Fair enough, spare parts isn't the most profitable buisness in this hobby! Just saying, they don't have anything in terms of drawings or parts or anything, even for their newest stuff, except for their building kits!

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Posted by gmpullman on Sunday, June 16, 2019 7:48 PM

 

SPSOT fan
but this model is in HO

 

 Life-Like_SW_0001 by Edmund, on Flickr

 Life-Like_SW by Edmund, on Flickr

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Posted by mbinsewi on Sunday, June 16, 2019 9:27 PM

mbinsewi
  Someone ought to start a Nseeker site.  Mike.

I've never noticed this before, but HOSeeker does have listings for N scale. Tongue Tied

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Posted by NVSRR on Monday, June 17, 2019 7:16 AM
Most companies try to standardize parts. Except frames and shells. Shows are a good place for parts. So is the bay of E. you do have to dig but parts are out there. P2 k are amoung the easier to find parts.

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Posted by mbinsewi on Monday, June 17, 2019 7:29 AM

During my regular walk through Ebay last night, I did notice a couple of P2K SW shells, complete with all the details.

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Posted by SPSOT fan on Monday, June 17, 2019 10:36 AM

Thanks for the documentation Ed, I suspect I will find it very useful whenever I need to work on that loco. Looked on Ebay, and theres a MILW shell for about $30, I have to think about it...

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