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Northwest Shortline — Ending Operations

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Posted by rrebell on Tuesday, March 19, 2019 10:24 AM

You want the best chopper, get a Shay Miter, Dave Frary uses one but they are rare and can be very expencive. Now on to the question, I own all three and a Shay by the way. I tend to like the #1 of NWSL ones and it will eventually wear out but you have to do alot of cuts to wear it out, I mean alot. I feel only serious scratch builders would wear it out and you do seem to get a cleaner cut as I have gotten some tailings from the #2. The #3 is a very large #1 that you can have two setups going on one board.

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Posted by Spalato68 on Tuesday, March 19, 2019 2:20 PM

This is very unfortunate, I have bought from them several times and service was and still is excellent. I just bought a bunch of different thrust washers because this item I have never ever found anywhere else, especially not in such variety. 

Gears can be found, two links (Europe, but they ship worldwide), just in case. But let's hope this store will find a way to continue their bussines (maybe a new owner), because they became a brand so to speak. 

https://shop.kkpmo.com/

https://ghw-modellbau.de/index.php?cPath=91_83_85

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Posted by PC101 on Tuesday, March 19, 2019 11:11 PM

It would be good if the Business is bought by local person or investers wanting to start a business. How things happen may go like this, Investers buy Business then liquidate but hold on to the name, then shop all the products out to be made in China. I have been using a Chopper I for years, the groove from the blade never was an issue with me or the work, it just was a reference line (the groove painted red) for the cut and to never have a finger on that line. Cutting basswood and plastic only. I added four rubber stick on feet on the bottom to eliminate slippage on the work bench. I think I added the feet and that they were not factory installed.

I just looked my Chopper, it's called ''THE CHOPPER, Part 49-4''. It has a lable on the back, it reads "Made in the USA, Assembled with pride by Norm", thank you Norm. THANK YOU DAVE, for the service you all provided.   

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Wednesday, March 20, 2019 6:03 AM

I just cleared the shelves of EVERY Northwest Shortline part at Riverdale Station in Atlanta. Don't know how much of them I will ever need, but I am not taking chances here.

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Set me back $300.00 for this stock-up. I have tons of thrust washers and metric screws now. I even got a couple of gearboxes, u joints, and axle stock.

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Posted by BigDaddy on Wednesday, March 20, 2019 9:07 AM

SeeYou190
I just cleared the shelves of EVERY Northwest Shortline part

Let the hoarding begin.

Henry

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Posted by mbinsewi on Wednesday, March 20, 2019 9:36 AM

SeeYou190
I just cleared the shelves of EVERY Northwest Shortline part at Riverdale Station in Atlanta. Don't know how much of them I will ever need, but I am not taking chances here.

I'm so happy for you.  Sleep   For $300, you should get more than washers and screws.

Your right Henry, let the hoarding begin.  Across the modeling universe, I see massive runs on hobby shops, internet connections slowed to unusable, the NWSL site crashes,  mad mobs over taking over all shops that stock their products, OH the HORROR!

I don't think I've ever used them.  Many other places to buy repower kits, motors  and needed supplys.  I've never bought their axles for Athearn, I always buy the Athearn drop in NS replacement axles.

I don't see anything about it on their web site.  And I don't need links referring to the "breaking news", it doesn't matter to me.  It's expected, sooner or later.  It's not like their prices were cheap.  Competitive, at best.

Carry on, as Henry says, let the hoarding continue.

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Posted by rrebell on Wednesday, March 20, 2019 10:50 AM

Seen this over and over again. People buy stuff they don't need because a company is going to be gone or abruptly is. Jordan stuff flew of the shelves and for awhile got big prices but that has tempered and now has gotten to the point that it is just a bit over what it was before the company closed (I needed a steam shovel from them). Next we have Shinohara, price went way up but went back down quickly (needed flex track). Seems there is alot of it out there now. And remember Floquil and the list goes on.

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Wednesday, March 20, 2019 11:28 AM

rrebell
Seen this over and over again. People buy stuff they don't need because a company is going to be gone or abruptly is

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I have done it over and over again.

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One of the great perks of having a job that requires travel is that I can hit ALL the hobby shops in the Southeast and hoard away.

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I missed Floquil, they were already bought out by the time I found out. I over-reacted with ScaleCoat, I have 10 times what I will ever need, and it is still readily available.

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With Partha-Paints, Citadel Washes, and Polly S Fantasy paints, well... I went a bit overboard, but do not regret it. I actually went into Omniverse Hobbies in Fort Myers and carried the whol Polly-S Fantasy paint rack up to the counter!

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I made runs on Grandt, and I think I have enough.

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I have plans for the future, and those plans do not include looking for hard-to-find parts. 

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Having a well-stocked parts department in my own home is well worth it.

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-Kevin

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Posted by rrebell on Wednesday, March 20, 2019 1:51 PM

Citadel washes are the best in my opinion, lucked onto an e-bay buy in non model railroaders section, where I got bulk styrene and ground gover too. The ground cover was a to good to be true grab, it was from a photographer.

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Wednesday, March 20, 2019 1:56 PM

rrebell
Citadel washes are the best in my opinion,

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Absolutely! I still have four pots of "Devlan Mud" stashed away. When they replaced the washes with "shades" and changed the color to "Agrax Earthshade", it is not as good.

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Posted by gmpullman on Wednesday, March 20, 2019 3:43 PM

BigDaddy
Let the hoarding begin.

I like to keep a well-stocked parts supply. Sometimes at 3 AM I might find that a particular locomotive I'm working on needs a new motor or decoder or complete new truck assembly. I have all that stuff on hand and I can continue with my project uninterrupted.

Call it hoarding if you like. 

A few weeks ago at a train show I found someone selling a whole shoebox full of Proto 2000 locomotives and chassis parts. Price worked out to about $15/loco. Should I have passed it up so I wouldn't become a hoarder? I think not.

Cheers and Happy Modeling, Ed

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Wednesday, March 20, 2019 5:21 PM

mbinsewi
For $300, you should get more than washers and screws.

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$300.00 in NSWL parts is not as much as you would think.

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The two motors and the gear box make up about 1/3 of the cost, but all the rest is just little bits.

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-Kevin

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Sunday, June 9, 2019 8:09 PM

I just placed a massive order with NWSL.

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I hope it was a lifetime supply.

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-Kevin

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Posted by doctorwayne on Monday, June 10, 2019 1:00 AM

dknelson
I have the Chopper 1 and at some point I suppose I will have the problem others have experienced - the masonite base gets a permanent gouge where the blade hits....

My Chopper I has a groove worn into the cutting surface....

...so I placed a small piece of .015" aluminum sheet under the cutting blade...

It seems to have no detrimental effect on the cutting blade, nor does the blade degrade the metal to any extent....if and when it does, I have lots of aluminum.

This was easier than replacing the Masonite cutting surface, and I'm not at all interested in trying to make precise cuts on a self-healing cutting mat - as you mentioned, the "give" in the mat isn't a good feature if precision is important. 

I do all decal cutting on a glass work surface for the same reason, slicing the needed images from the sheet with the blade well away from them.  The individual words (or in some cases, letters or numerals) are then trimmed as close as possible to the image, using a chopping motion with the knife blade, rather than slicing.  This is impossible on a surface that's not firm and solid.

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Posted by NVSRR on Monday, June 10, 2019 9:12 AM

How much would it take to buy nwsl?    I have a few projects i wanted the stanton drive.   Money is not working with me. Decision time.  

I have a chopper as well.  I looked at it and figured that if i route out a box where the blade is and install either masonite of styrene inlay to fix the gouges to fix and extend its life.

 

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Posted by dti406 on Monday, June 10, 2019 9:42 AM

One of my fellow club members had the same problem, our machinist member made him a steel plate and mounted the chopper to it, problem solved.

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Posted by rrebell on Monday, June 10, 2019 9:55 AM

NVSRR

How much would it take to buy nwsl?    I have a few projects i wanted the stanton drive.   Money is not working with me. Decision time.  

I have a chopper as well.  I looked at it and figured that if i route out a box where the blade is and install either masonite of styrene inlay to fix the gouges to fix and extend its life.

 

Wolfie

 

You could just putty the slot. I have a chopper 1 and a 2 with extra mats, had a 3 but it is going e-bay as I never used it. Have two Shay guillotine cutters too. Done alot of projects and none of these is perfect. The Shays have less deflection that the rest but I tend to use the chopper 2 for most stuff. For really thick stuff I have a mini powered miter saw, what can I say, I am a tool junkie and I got them all cheap to boot at different times.

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Posted by dknelson on Monday, June 10, 2019 10:00 AM

doctorwayne
My Chopper I has a groove worn into the cutting surface.......so I placed a small piece of .015" aluminum sheet under the cutting blade...It seems to have no detrimental effect on the cutting blade, nor does the blade degrade the metal to any extent....if and when it does, I have lots of aluminum.

This was easier than replacing the Masonite cutting surface, and I'm not at all interested in trying to make precise cuts on a self-healing cutting mat - as you mentioned, the "give" in the mat isn't a good feature if precision is important. 

Ah, interesting info Wayne.  The "fix" that I was thinking of was written up in MR years ago, and that is to make a sort of paste using sawdust and ACC (which is kind of how Masonite is made to begin with, evidently), fill the grove with it, and sand it smooth with the surface.  I have not yet had to go that route, but the day is coming for sure.  

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Posted by Railroadfan1 on Saturday, August 3, 2019 12:25 AM

 

Update 8/2/19 @ 2:58 p.m. from David @ N.W.S.L.: “...it’ll be a month or so before we can do anything...  ...an update there is that it looks like we have someone to aquire the line and keep it going. We’re not accepting new orders now...  ...but they should be able to help you out after the transition.”

Hope springs eternal.

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