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cracked gears proto 2000
Posted by dh28473 on Wednesday, November 21, 2018 3:44 PM

do the gears from a older athearn sd 40 fit a proto gp18 for the cracked gears? If not which ones will?

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Posted by wjstix on Wednesday, November 21, 2018 4:05 PM

Yes, and you can buy the gears from Athearn - I don't believe Walthers makes the replacement gears anymore. (The problem was from older engines made before Walthers bought Life-Like's train line.)

http://smallrails.blogspot.com/2011/12/how-to-fix-proto-2000-axles-dreaded-p2k.html

 

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Posted by jrbernier on Wednesday, November 21, 2018 4:18 PM

you need the Athearn SD40-2 gears - 60024 is the part number

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Posted by gmpullman on Wednesday, November 21, 2018 4:23 PM

wjstix
I don't believe Walthers makes the replacement gears anymore.

Sometimes they are available as replacement wheel/axle/gear sets.

https://www.walthers.com/replacement-geared-driver-assembly-diesel-wheelset-pkg-2-for-early-proto-2000-r-bl-fa-gp7-9-18-20-30-60-proto-1000-tm-f3

The Athearn gear is what I use, too, but it is nice to have sets already made up for a quick swap so having spares is handy.

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Wednesday, November 21, 2018 5:29 PM

Athearn has complete Axle/Gear/Bushing/Wheel assemblies available now for about $15.00, and that is what I used on my GP-7 that had this problem.

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You need 40" wheels for the GPs.

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Posted by jk10 on Thursday, November 22, 2018 9:07 PM

This has been a topic I've been looking into for awhile and keep putting on the back burner. I have a few older P2K locomotives that I know will need this done. Are the replacements compatible with pretty much all of those locomotives? I have mostly GP40 or GP50s that will need them done. 

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Posted by peahrens on Friday, November 23, 2018 8:20 AM

gmpullman

 

 
wjstix
I don't believe Walthers makes the replacement gears anymore.

 

Sometimes they are available as replacement wheel/axle/gear sets.

https://www.walthers.com/replacement-geared-driver-assembly-diesel-wheelset-pkg-2-for-early-proto-2000-r-bl-fa-gp7-9-18-20-30-60-proto-1000-tm-f3

The Athearn gear is what I use, too, but it is nice to have sets already made up for a quick swap so having spares is handy.

Cheers, Ed

 

Note that the above link shows the Walthers item (or the Athearn substitute) for many of the P2K GPs, etc.

The following item is for many of the E-units.  

https://www.walthers.com/replacement-geared-diesel-wheelsets-fits-early-proto-2000-r-e6-7-8-9-pkg-3?ref=1

When these are not in stock at Walthers, check EBay for someone who has some available.  

When you get into them, note the number of teeth differences between these 2 types.  I don't recall whether there is a 3rd or 4th.  Also, check the wheel sizes are not different.  

An older thread may list all the variations for the P2Ks.

https://www.google.com/search?safe=active&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS759US759&ei=yg_4W-eYN4-ytQWJu6jQDw&q=site%3Acs.trains.com+p2k+proto+2000+cracked+gears&oq=site%3Acs.trains.com+p2k+proto+2000+cracked+gears&gs_l=psy-ab.3...2786.14762..21364...0.0..0.127.2007.28j1......0....1..gws-wiz.Zhl6x5ETXeU

While the cracked gears are often on the GP units, it can occur with the E units, even if less often.  Good to have some on hand or simply upgrade all.

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Posted by mbinsewi on Friday, November 23, 2018 8:35 AM

Athearn 40" axle, gear and wheel sets:

http://www.athearn.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=ATH40028

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Friday, November 23, 2018 9:06 AM

mbinsewi
Athearn 40" axle, gear and wheel sets:

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These are also a good idea to install in older Athearn Blue Box diesels just because the wheels are so much better quality.

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Posted by mbinsewi on Friday, November 23, 2018 9:47 AM

Yep, whenever I "up-grade" any of my good running BB diesels, wheel replacement is part of the over haul.

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Posted by rrinker on Friday, November 23, 2018 7:24 PM

 But to fix cracked gears in P2K locos, you don't need new wheels, just the gears. Much cheaper. In either case, I wouldn't trust the wheel gauge without checking with the NMRA gauge. The wheels most definitely do not get pressed in to the gears as far as they will go.

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