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Convince Me: Should I get a second throttle?

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Convince Me: Should I get a second throttle?
Posted by Trainman440 on Tuesday, October 2, 2018 11:01 PM

Hi!

I have a 4x8 layout, with the 2012 THE VIRGINIAN MRR project layout track plan. 

I usually run 1 train at a given time. Sometime I run 2. The layout is capable of running 3 at once(enough track). 

I have a single NCE powercab(no boosters). 

I usually operate my layout alone.

Currently, I have the option of getting a NCE Cab 04 for $45. 

Should I go for it?

Im assuming it makes running two trains a once a lot easier. 

Also, in the distant future, I definently plan to expand, with a larger layout. 

Thanks!

Charles

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Posted by Tinplate Toddler on Tuesday, October 2, 2018 11:49 PM

I have the same question to answer, although I am not looking for another DCC throttle, but a power pack. My layout has working overhead catenary and I can run two trains independently, with one picking "the juice" from the overhead and one from the track.

I have decided against it!

I am a lone wolf operator and I can safely control only one train at a time on my small layout - just like an engineer can drive only one engine. Instead of a second power pack, I will install a simple switch, allowing me to toggle between overhead piclup and rail pickup.

Now $45 is not a huge investment and if you have plans to extend your layout, adding another throttle is not a bad investment. Who knows, you may be able to met a person in joining you operate your layout!

Happy times!

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Posted by richhotrain on Wednesday, October 3, 2018 12:03 AM

Trainman440

Im assuming it makes running two trains a once a lot easier. 

Therein lies the problem. It does not necessarily make running two trains at once a lot easier. I have two throttles, but my layout is much larger than yours, and it is a double mainline. I find it easier to toggle the throttle rather than put it down and pick up the other throttle.

Rich

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Posted by selector on Wednesday, October 3, 2018 12:04 AM

You could keep it as a backup in case the current unit ever decides it's time to retire.  In the case of Digitrax, I can use at least two DT400 throttles at the same time in case a friend wants to run trains.  It's never happened....but I do have that second DT400.  And, if the one I'm using packs it in, I can reach for the second and continue to control trains.

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Posted by gregc on Wednesday, October 3, 2018 7:53 AM

i hate buying things I really don't need at the moment.    Like you, I have a small layout and operation by myself.   I considered buying a 2nd cab, but ended up building one.

i like using a smaller lighter cab and not using the PowerCab.   You may too.

Of course, if you expand the layout and continue to use the PowerCab, you may need a cab you can move around, even if you operate by yourself.

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Posted by nealknows on Wednesday, October 3, 2018 10:11 AM

With the NCE Power Cab system, the Power Cab always needs to be plugged in so that you can add a second throttle. It's good to have if you don't want to hold the Power Cab all the time and operate with the smaller unit. $45 sounds like a good deal as long as it works. 

If it was me, I would get it, especially since you're going to expand down the road. Also, if you get a guest come over to operate, it can be fun!

Good luck on your decision.

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Wednesday, October 3, 2018 11:42 AM

When I bought my Lenz system, I got a second throttle.  I hardly ever used it.  My layout was large enough that I did have multiple plug in spots.  The second throttle was considerably less capable.

What changed my mind about multiple throttles was wireless.  I bought a pair of CVP wireless throttles and I love them.  For programming and consisting I still use the Lenz, but for walking around with my trains I like the wireless.

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Posted by peahrens on Wednesday, October 3, 2018 12:47 PM

I have a 5x9 layout that allows 2 trains to run at once (following each other).  My NCE PowerHouse Pro allow toggling between 2 locos to adjust speeds so normally I do not need a 2nd throttle.  But, I bought an auxiliary 2nd throttle for when the grandkids are here so that 2 can operate at once.

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Posted by Trainman440 on Wednesday, October 3, 2018 2:29 PM

Thanks guys!

I ended up buying it, figured I would need one anyways later. 

For the record, having a second NCE throttle as a backup is useless, because the powercab must be active for any other throttle to work. 

Charles

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Posted by rrinker on Wednesday, October 3, 2018 6:02 PM

 However it is possible for the command station part of the PowerCab to be working and something be wrong with the throttle part - maybe the speed wheel stops working, or you drop it and break the LCD screen. It will still work - you might not be able to control a train with it, but you will with the second throttle.

 Plus the smaller utility throttles are easier to handle - you may find you use that one and leave the PowerCab plugged in but unused, and operat with the new one.

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Posted by B. Bryce on Monday, October 15, 2018 10:55 AM

I have a Powercab, in fact 2 Powercabs.  It is true the Powercab must be plugged in to energize the track, but by adding a second cab allows you to let others control trains at the same time you are controlling the trains, like when friends, relatives or their or your children/grandchildren are over and want to participate.  

To solve the problem of not being able to unplug the Powercabs and move them to other tap in UTP panels, you can upgrade to using a Smart Booster.  The Smart Booster then provides track power and you can unplug the Powercab and move it anywhere on your layout where you have additional UTP panels whthout interrupting train movement.

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Posted by doctorwayne on Monday, October 15, 2018 3:48 PM

Tinplate Toddler
...My layout has working overhead catenary and I can run two trains independently, with one picking "the juice" from the overhead and one from the track. I have decided against it! I am a lone wolf operator and I can safely control only one train at a time on my small layout - just like an engineer can drive only one engine....

Since you've already bought the throttle, my comment is merely to agree with Ulrich. 
I'm also a DC operator, but with a room-size layout.  Even if I were operating with DCC, there's no way I would want to have more than one train running at a time, unless, of course, there was another operator running that train.  Since my layout is not at all suited to multiple operators, one operator running one train is the rule.

If at some time in the future your layout grows or offers possibilities for multiple operators, perhaps then you'll get use from the second throttle.

Wayne

 

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Posted by bearman on Monday, October 15, 2018 4:07 PM

At $45 for a second throttle, you can't go wrong, especially if you are planning on expanding.  I have a 55 sf walk in U layout with the Powercab, two Cab06 throttles with an SB5 booster.  It can be operated with three people, one switching the yard and the other two running two trains.  The booster is overkill but it was the easiest way to add two additional plug in ports where I wanted them.

Check the manual, it should be available for download on the NCE site, and make sure that if you ever use the second throttle to change the cab address before you use it.

Bear "It's all about having fun."

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Posted by B. Bryce on Wednesday, October 17, 2018 7:33 AM

doctorwayne
Tinplate Toddler
...My layout has working overhead catenary and I can run two trains independently, with one picking "the juice" from the overhead and one from the track. I have decided against it! I am a lone wolf operator and I can safely control only one train at a time on my small layout - just like an engineer can drive only one engine....

I'm also a DC operator, but with a room-size layout.  Even if I were operating with DCC, there's no way I would want to have more than one train running at a time, unless, of course, there was another operator running that train.  Since my layout is not at all suited to multiple operators, one operator running one train is the rule.

If at some time in the future your layout grows or offers possibilities for multiple operators, perhaps then you'll get use from the second throttle.

Wayne 

 

I can see your point, but also must bring up that you do not have anywhere near the operational possibilities with DC that are available with DCC.  It is really AWESOME to be able to have multiple operators controlling multiple trains (obviously in a controlled manner) on the same track, in different directions and at different speeds, just like the prototypes. I really believe that should you change over to DCC, you will also see this in a short amount of time.

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