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Creating a DCC programming/testing setup in a very small amount of space

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Posted by Metro Red Line on Thursday, August 30, 2018 6:34 AM
Even though I use flextrack on my actual layout, I bought an oval's worth of Kato Unitrack to lay out on the floor to test/program DCC locos. When I'm done, I just take the track apart again and store it.
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Posted by peahrens on Tuesday, August 28, 2018 9:00 AM

I built a small, storable track to test DC locos before conversion to DCC.  For that aspect, consider including a DC voltmeter and amp meter.  This photo shows only one meter.  Both are quite inexpensive on EBay.  Also, if making temporary hookups like I do, with a jumper having alligator clips on the end, consider a fuse that may be useful in case shorting the wires.

  20171122_120803 by Paul Ahrens, on Flickr

I do not use this for DCC program track, as my program track is on the layout.

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Posted by 70humdinger on Monday, August 27, 2018 10:56 PM

Thanks. Looked it up (Digitrax Zephyr Xtra) and watched some YouTube videos about it. Looks like the answer I'm seeking. Now just to find wiring and some sectional track...

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Posted by gregc on Monday, August 27, 2018 2:00 PM

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What I'm looking to do is create a small setup with only 2-3 feet of track and a system that can program and test my DCC locos. It should also be able to run DC locos as I got some in cold storage for a while now.

i think we'd all like to have the ability to quickly test a DC loco before we install a decoder.   I have a PWM throttle I plug into the NCE PCP instead of a PowerCab to drive a DC locomotive.

i built a simple PWM throttle with an RJ-12 6-pin cable that plugs into an NCE PCP instead of a PowerCab.   The diagram below shows a 6-pin cable.    It shows the 4 pins for RS-485 communication and power from the wall.   It doesn't show that the outer 2 pins are power to the track from the PowerCab.    My PWM throttle takes power from pins 2 and 5 and provides PWM to the track pins, 1 and 6.

you could make a cable that takes track power from a standard throttle and puts it on pins 1 and 6 of an RJ-12 cable 

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Posted by gmpullman on Monday, August 27, 2018 1:32 PM

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My vote is for a sprog. It is a self-enclosed DCC system.

I agree.

My "test track" is about fifteen feet long. Beside the Sprogg I have an ESU Lokprogrammer and an MRC Tech 3 powerpack with meters.

I used a two-pole six position rotary switch to select the input I want to use. I also have a jumper with a connector to run a ESU decoder tester if I choose.

Using a six position rotary (I already had it on hand) allows me to have a blank spot between each selection. Not that it is really necessary but it helps to keep me aware of what the switch is set for.

Cheers, Ed

 

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Posted by Renegade1c on Monday, August 27, 2018 1:21 PM

My vote is for a sprog. It is a self-enclosed DCC system. It can program and also run a locomotive Via JMRI. It comes with a power supply and its two wires to the rails. If you want you can add in a DPDT switch (center off is recommended) and get yourself a DC powerpack. You then can test with DC before swtiching to DCC. The whole Sprog unit is about 2x3 inches. The Sprog has been able to program every locomotive I own. The only thing it can't do is download sounds (ie. for LokSound or Digitrax decoders) It can program them but can't load new sounds. 


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Posted by richg1998 on Monday, August 27, 2018 12:13 PM

On my layout which was DC, I had a four pin socket on the fascia for a DC power pack I had made. Two pins for low voltage AC and two pins for the variable DC from the hand held throttle.

When I got an NCE Power Cab, I used those the two pins going to the track for DCC. Left the other two pins alone. That way I could switch between DC and DCC easily.

Actually my first DCC controller was a MRC2K that had five throttles. One could be a DC loco. Gave that system away.

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Posted by rrinker on Monday, August 27, 2018 10:13 AM

 I have a piece of laminated shelf material from Lowes that I built a small test track on. It has a couple of rerailer sections plus enough straight track to fill it out to the end. At each end is a Kadee couple gauge (mine are metal so I gapped a rail to keep them from shorting). From one end I also marked out distances as the NMRA recommended weight for a car of that length. It currently has a Digitrax PR3 and an ESU Lokprogrammer selectable with a DPDT toggle, but that very eaisly could be a connection to DCC and to a DC power pack. A future project is to integrate one in a new workbench that has at least 3 options - DCC, Lokprogrammer, and DC. A 2 pole rotary switch would work fine for this. You'd want a non-shorting type - or one with at least 5 positions so you could have a device, a blank space, a second device, a blank space, and the third device - thus no chance of one device even momentarily getting connected to another one. It sounds 10x more complex than it actually is.

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Posted by Erie-diamond on Monday, August 27, 2018 9:39 AM

If this helps, I took a piece of plywood 6" wide and 4 ft long and tacked a 3 ft piece of flex track to it. I then soldered on two leads with female plugs. One for my MRC Decoder Dr and one for my DC power pack. I also attached 2 inches of soft foam at each end as a safety against run away locos. I used female plugs on the test track to prevent any shorts.

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Posted by RR_Mel on Monday, August 27, 2018 9:21 AM

My Prodigy has plugs for power and track so it’s easy to move it from my layout to test bench.  If you have or buy a DCC controller that doesn’t have plugs make some pigtails with plugs for easy connect and disconnect so you can move it easily.
 
 
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Posted by Lonnie Utah on Monday, August 27, 2018 9:06 AM

Look at the Digitrax Zepher Xtra and Pr4 running JMRI. 

The zepher will run the DC locos without any real issues. 

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Creating a DCC programming/testing setup in a very small amount of space
Posted by 70humdinger on Sunday, August 26, 2018 2:40 PM

In my condo I have a very small amount of space so a layout is not an option.

What I'm looking to do is create a small setup with only 2-3 feet of track and a system that can program and test my DCC locos. It should also be able to run DC locos as I got some in cold storage for a while now.

I've heard of (and seen videos) of the MRC Tech 6 system that can do a lot of things including running DC units (I think the only thing it can't do isex change the address of the loco - that's something I would like to do). Is that worth it or is a better option?

Any brand is acceptable. Your thoughts on this is greatly appreciated.

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